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I'm only annoyed by this because this is the first I've ever heard of this and he hasn't even reached out to the man he half-blinded before seeking a pardon. I say don't pardon him. He should be happy with his millions of dollars. He shouldn't get special treatment regarding his actions as a minor just because he's famous, rich, and white.
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mookface posted:Ok so you think that if someone is destructive and angry as a youth you're just totally hosed for your whole life and there's no saving you? You honestly believe that if someone is legitimately sorry for wrongs they have committed in the past that they should just be hosed for life? This doesn't just apply to celebrities you know. There are plenty of people who were criminals that have reformed and live straight lives. Many of them mentor troubled youth which is something they never had. But he's not legitimately sorry. He hasn't tried to reach out to any of his victims. And he has more than enough time and money to do so. If he really wanted to provide an example to troubled youth who were once like him, that's what he should do.
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Dec 8, 2014 18:51
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Why do i care about some lovely actor being a poo poo head?
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Dec 8, 2014 18:59
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I don't support leniency for known gangster rappers like Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch.
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Dec 8, 2014 19:00
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There are a great many things to outraged about. A celebrity trying expunge something from when they were a teenager so that they can give back to the community isn't one of them.
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Dec 8, 2014 19:21
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Tarkus posted:There are a great many things to outraged about. A celebrity trying expunge something from when they were a teenager so that they can give back to the community isn't one of them. He needs this to give back to the community? I thought he wanted it so he can open a restaurant?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6fez3AHUzQ
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Tarkus posted:A celebrity trying expunge something from when they were a teenager so that they can give back to the community isn't one of them. yeah its too bad theres no way that mark wahlberg can give back to the community other than getting a pardon. also he's not trying to expunge something he's trying to get a pardon. its not the same thing
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Dec 8, 2014 19:25
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Broenheim posted:Why do i care about some lovely actor being a poo poo head? Goons
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Dec 8, 2014 19:35
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Kilmers Elbow posted:All the cells that constituted Mark Wahlberg's 16yr old self no longer exist. Charles Manson will be delighted.
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Dec 8, 2014 19:40
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Ha ha remember when he said he could have stopped 9-11?  http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/01/mark-wahlberg-thinks-he-could-have-stopped-911.html
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Dec 8, 2014 19:43
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Peztopiary posted:Real Talk he served his time (pathetically little as it was) so the question becomes is it useful for society to know who you were in the past. That's an unequivocal yes. It's great that he's a good person now, but that doesn't invalidate who he used to be. Except that it's preventing him from doing good things right now. And it's actually stupid as hell that future good works can actually be hindered by past debts you've actually already paid back to society.
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Dec 8, 2014 19:54
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HoboZero posted:Now *cue the black back up dancers*
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Dec 8, 2014 19:58
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Clochette posted:But he's not legitimately sorry. says you.
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Guancho posted:says you. If he's sorry why doesn't he make reparations to Thanh Lam or at least make an apology directed towards him? Instead he's making non-apologies like "I'm sorry for any harm I may have caused." May have caused? He blinded the guy, of course he harmed him. If Wahlberg actually owned up to his actions I wouldn't have a problem with him.
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Dec 8, 2014 20:08
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Clochette posted:If he's sorry why doesn't he make reparations to Thanh Lam or at least make an apology directed towards him? Instead he's making non-apologies like "I'm sorry for any harm I may have caused." May have caused? He blinded the guy, of course he harmed him. I'm sure Mark Wahlberg wakes up in a cold sweat in the middle of the night about the fact that SomethingAwful.com forums user Clochette still hasn't forgiven him.
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hemophilia posted:Except that it's preventing him from doing good things right now. And it's actually stupid as hell that future good works can actually be hindered by past debts you've actually already paid back to society. i think its mainly preventing him from opening a restaurant. there is plenty of good works he is capable of doing without getting a pardon from the governor
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Dec 8, 2014 20:16
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hemophilia posted:Except that it's preventing him from doing good things right now. And it's actually stupid as hell that future good works can actually be hindered by past debts you've actually already paid back to society. This is a good point but to play devil's advocate for a moment here can you imagine the hell there would be to pay if a guy who used to rob houses was hired to install burglar alarms or a guy with a bunch of DWIs was given a job driving gasoline trucks
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Wamdoodle posted:I'm sure Mark Wahlberg wakes up in a cold sweat in the middle of the night about the fact that Thanh Lam and Hoa Trinh still haven't forgiven him. Fixed that for you. And while we're at it, let's find out if it does keep him up at night! Mark Wahlberg posted:You have to go and ask for forgiveness and it wasn't until I really started doing good and doing right by other people, as well as myself, that I really started to feel that guilt go away. So I don't have a problem going to sleep at night. I feel good when I wake up in the morning. Oh.
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Clochette posted:But he's not legitimately sorry. He hasn't tried to reach out to any of his victims. And he has more than enough time and money to do so. If he really wanted to provide an example to troubled youth who were once like him, that's what he should do. how do you know tht he has not done so
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Melmac posted:This is a good point but to play devil's advocate for a moment here can you imagine the hell there would be to pay if a guy who used to rob houses was hired to install burglar alarms i would feel safer, because he knows where and how people try to break in, more so than the other burglar alarm men
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THE PENETRATOR posted:how do you know tht he has not done so He said so in an interview, thought it was in 2006 ABC interview posted:And though the right thing to do would be to try to find the man and make amends, Wahlberg says, he admits he hasn't done so -- but says he's no longer burdened by guilt.
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Dec 8, 2014 22:24
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Clochette posted:Mark Wahlberg Is Seeking a Pardon for His 1988 Assault Conviction I don't remember this episode of Entourage
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hemophilia posted:Except that it's preventing him from doing good things right now. And it's actually stupid as hell that future good works can actually be hindered by past debts you've actually already paid back to society. I mean he can't become a cop, (lol gotta commit all your crimes after you're on the other side of the blue line) but a conviction isn't going to stop him from opening a charity or other group. Maybe due to some crazy state law cops couldn't coordinate directly with him, but they sure could with someone who worked for his charity. Nah, this is about being above the law once you're famous enough. I dig that he is doing good works now, but he still committed a crime and people should still have access to that information. As an example, if you were a charity devoted to helping at risk Asian teens maybe you'd want to take a close look at the dude before you partnered up with his charity.
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Clochette posted:Billy Cosby hasn't raped anyone for a few years either He raped all of America's happy childhood memories.
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Peztopiary posted:I mean he can't become a cop, (lol gotta commit all your crimes after you're on the other side of the blue line) but a conviction isn't going to stop him from opening a charity or other group. Maybe due to some crazy state law cops couldn't coordinate directly with him, but they sure could with someone who worked for his charity. Nah, this is about being above the law once you're famous enough. I dig that he is doing good works now, but he still committed a crime and people should still have access to that information. As an example, if you were a charity devoted to helping at risk Asian teens maybe you'd want to take a close look at the dude before you partnered up with his charity. We'll just have to disagree. I don't think the law should be a tool to mark and damage people who break it, except maybe pedophiles and murderers and even then if rehabilitation is possible that's an avenue I'd like to explore. The only time criminals should be marked as dangerous and punished from here to the end is pretty much all kinds of sex offender and people who have taken lives, and not just body parts, of others.
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hemophilia posted:except maybe pedophiles and murderers He made a good faith effort to kill the person he mutilated. Trans panic saved him from a fair and deserved prison stay. All this is neither here nor there. He could've showed genuine remorse and made reparations anytime, or he could've nutted up and fought the trans champion in 1 on 1 combat. This should have all been water under the bridge by now.
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Earwicker posted:i think its mainly preventing him from opening a restaurant. there is plenty of good works he is capable of doing without getting a pardon from the governor This. The stuff on the first page about him wanting the pardon to work with kids is BS, felons work with kids all the time. He's asking for it to get a liquor license for his burger joints to make more money.
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SteveVizsla posted:This. The stuff on the first page about him wanting the pardon to work with kids is BS, felons work with kids all the time. He's asking for it to get a liquor license for his burger joints to make more money. Regardless of his "true" motivations (whatever they are), is it really that hard for him to work around his criminal record for a restaurant he owns to get it's liquor licence? I assume he won't be serving the drinks himself, and I'd imagine there's some way for them to structure the ownership so that he wouldn't have to put his own name on the state liquor licence application. I'm now fully prepared for one of you spergy goons to link the relevant pieces of the MA State liquor licencing board applications process and prove me wrong. It's probably just as likely he wants the conviction pardoned so that the insurance bond on his films is slightly lower.
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I'm not going to research any MA state whatever but I do remember from when I worked in the alcohol business that they are by far one of the strictest states about that kind of poo poo, so its not really that surprising
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Darkman Fanpage posted:i support marky mark and the funky bunch in their struggle against north vietnam and the viet cong
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catch22 posted:He said so in an interview, thought it was in 2006 it is good that we are using 8 year old facts as basis for outrage, in my opinion.
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Clochette posted:Now he's asking to be pardoned for it because being an attempted murderer is keeping him from mentoring troubled youth or some poo poo.
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Parts Kit posted:What is he mentoring troubled youth in, how to be racist hate crime committers?
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Khorne posted:Probably in how to escape their environment and how to control anger. Two things Mark Wahlberg has successfully done. Step 1. Have a talented and attractive brother who is part of a famous boy band
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have you guys considered that mark wahlberg has a third nipple and thats why he hulked out and crippled an asian man i'd be angry too if I was a mutant with a weird accent
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Theres a huge vietnamese population in dorchester (refugee families from the war), it's not like he was the lone asian guy on the street or something. Theres parts of dorchester that are like 80% viet, and in the mid 80's is around the time they all finished coming over. Just saying Still racially motivated maybe, in kind of an "us vs them" way, but probably not the "pick on the weird ethnic outcast" way. Like in prison when blacks and whites fight, its not like everyone cries racism and unfairness, thats just where the lines were drawn. Same with gangs on the streets. the worst thing is fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Dec 9, 2014 |
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Melmac posted:This is a good point but to play devil's advocate for a moment here can you imagine the hell there would be to pay if a guy who used to rob houses was hired to install burglar alarms or a guy with a bunch of DWIs was given a job driving gasoline trucks lmao because people that have committed crimes and turned their lives around have never been used to help trouble youth, it's apples and oranges MATE
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