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hm, wasnt this guy abusing a journal subscription for his university, and mass-downloading tens of thousands of articles per day, causing the journal to block the campus, and loving over thousands of other students?
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THE PENETRATOR posted:hm, wasnt this guy abusing a journal subscription for his university, and mass-downloading tens of thousands of articles per day, causing the journal to block the campus, and loving over thousands of other students? no JSTOR did not block MIT
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Dec 9, 2014 03:49
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Pvt Dancer posted:The time and effort was already paid for. Then paid for again because idiots believe that academic publishers are providing a valuable service. "We ask other people to do peer-review for free and have very specific rules for submitting papers so we don't have to put in any work give us a shitload of money" academia lmao Yeah, who would pay for access to a database? Or membership to a forum? It makes no sense.
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Dec 9, 2014 03:50
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TEAYCHES posted:no JSTOR did not block MIT what a waste of a perfectly good opportunity 2 pwn some freakin collegiates...
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Dec 9, 2014 03:50
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It's stupid that publically funded research is allowed to be kept behind paywalls and it should be illegal.
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Dec 9, 2014 03:51
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:It's stupid that publically funded research is allowed to be kept behind paywalls and it should be illegal. yea there was a lot of really good investigations and writing about how academic journals and poo poo actually work when this whole thing originally went down but surprise goons are hilariously uninformed
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Dec 9, 2014 03:55
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TEAYCHES posted:yea there was a lot of really good investigations and writing about how academic journals and poo poo actually work when this whole thing originally went down but surprise goons are hilariously uninformed i like the part where if youve published things before they dont really fact check you so one guy got a bunch of completely bullshit medical articles about a certain anesthesia through that became de-facto standard for years even though oops they just paralyzed you and you were still conscious and felt pain anyway i aspire to be that guy
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THE PENETRATOR posted:i like the part where if youve published things before they dont really fact check you so one guy got a bunch of completely bullshit medical articles about a certain anesthesia through that became de-facto standard for years even though oops they just paralyzed you and you were still conscious and felt pain Yeah peer review as a fact-checking process doesn't really work. Someone did a study by resubmitting 12 already-published articles from prestigious schools, changing the names of researchers and institutions, and only 3 out of 38 reviewers detected the resubmissions that they had already read. The articles were rejected as the same rate as articles overall. Somehow the previously-accepted articles now had "serious methodological flaws" according to some of them. This basically tells me that peer review is useless and there is no substitute for actually replicating experiments. Abstract is here, feel free to buy the article for $45! https://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=6577844
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Dec 9, 2014 04:16
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Abstract is here, feel free to buy the article for $45! makes u think
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Dec 9, 2014 04:17
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TEAYCHES posted:JSTOR really is a retarded scam tho. its not paying for more academic studies if thats what you think is going on with that gig that doesn't make his act of protest or whatever any less ill conceived. plus, if you hate jstor just wait until you have to deal with elsevier
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Dec 9, 2014 06:09
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do u think lowtax will try to 1up aaron swartz with a murder-suicide
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Dec 9, 2014 06:16
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He killed himself over a bunch of stupid articles no one is going to read anyways
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Dec 9, 2014 06:19
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THE FUCKIN ROBOCOP posted:He killed himself over a bunch of stupid articles no one is going to read anyways Who, lowtax or Swartz?
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Mange Mite posted:Who, lowtax or Swartz? 
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Dec 9, 2014 06:22
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babypolis posted:he did not deserve to die and his death was tragic, imo
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Relin posted:what a retard, he would have gone to a minimum sec prison with commuted jail time prolly (was only serving six months...) , plus with his connections its not like his career was over
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THE PENETRATOR posted:i like the part where if youve published things before they dont really fact check you so one guy got a bunch of completely bullshit medical articles about a certain anesthesia through that became de-facto standard for years even though oops they just paralyzed you and you were still conscious and felt pain Wow, the sciences are really hosed, glad I'm a history dude
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Dec 9, 2014 12:12
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Dec 9, 2014 12:18
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I felt bad for him until i watched the doc about him. Holy poo poo, what an annoying gently caress he was.
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Dec 9, 2014 15:49
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Now have Julian Assange kill himself.
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Dec 9, 2014 15:53
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Applewhite posted:Now have Julian Assange kill himself. Aaron Nadler
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soy posted:I felt bad for him until i watched the doc about him. Holy poo poo, what an annoying gently caress he was.  
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babypolis posted:ln of 9 isonly 2.19, im sorry about ur micropenis I was going to make this joke, but thought that's what naem wanted us to do so I didn't.
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AGAIN???
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:It's stupid that publically funded research is allowed to be kept behind paywalls and it should be illegal. As someone whose work is behind such paywalls I entirely agree with this, but perhaps hacking them in a way that you've already got into trouble for, being caught again then killing yourself isn't the best way to achieve it. Isn't it fairly likely he would have gotten away with a slap on the wrist anyway? Even if not, the pirate bay guys seem better set up, the one dude who is in jail or whatever is powering through standing up for what he believes in and what he believes in is WAY less legit than public access to publicly funded research. I guess the dude was mentally unbalanced or whatever, v sad. tbh, best way to say a big gently caress you to academic publishers is to create a movement of researchers making their own work available. The publisher can't (or generally doesn't) stop you putting PDFs of your own work on your own website, and loads of researchers are happy to send copies out by email because they don't get paid by the journal anyway. Also open access journals. Academic publishing is a major loving racket and it's about time it died in it's present exploitative form.
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