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City of Tampa posted:Cool. I like your argument style of "you are wrong just because". And who cares about Europe? 1-866-4-US-WAGE you dont gently caress with hours, thats why timecards and logging are so transparent (in any successful business). its right up there with not paying taxes , its not something you want to deal with as a business because you wont be in business anymore. now if you're going to try and claim backpay for more money than was recorded you're going to have to go to court. but what other choice is there? if you could claim you worked more than was recorded and get paid for it then everybody would lie and it would fail. but if you didn't get paid for work that you worked thats end-game poo poo for a company (via fines, audits, and revoking licenses) edit: sometimes it gets interesting with "lunch" (federally mandated 30 minute break for certain amount of time, like 7.25 hours), since some businesses dont work very well that way. for instance I used to work somewhere where that simply wasnt possible sometimes, due to the nature of the business. they were so paranoid about this law that if I wasn't able to take lunch they'd give me FOUR free hours of overtime pay tacked onto my check to keep me happy. highly illegal, but thats how far a poo poo company would go to prevent dealing with the dept of labor 1gnoirents fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Dec 11, 2014 |
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TOILETLORD posted:doesn't work like that since what and individual does and what a company does are not comparable. i mean accidentally. yeah maybe the old woman was a retard who couldn't hold a cup, but thats irrelevant and doesnt excuse typical tort reform advocate faggotry
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:i mean accidentally. Most of these cases are about people being retards and then expecting a huge payout for their retardation. And it makes everything worse for the rest of us. The number of legit lawsuits is actually really small. Probably 95% of lawsuits are frivolous in nature and a sane legal system would just automatically throw them out before they go anywhere. And the worst is when these things go to trial, because juries consist of the dregs of society who usually agree with a huge payout being in order for someone who doesn't deserve it. The people who are dumb enough to sit on juries are usually the same kinds of lowlives who file frivolous lawsuits. Dick Fagballzson fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Dec 11, 2014 |
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Dec 11, 2014 18:21
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Another thing that leads me to believe that suing people is a part of american culture is the fact that there are so many small claims court shows on the television. I mean come on. I'm not gonna lie. Judge Judy is freaking entertaining and seeing the lowest of the low in society duke it out over 100 bucks makes me chuckle. However, I feel that it is a negative force contributing to society because it makes it look like its fun and right to sue or look for "compensation".
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suing people owns its the fastest, easiest way to wealth and power. it also makes people really, REALLY mad to be sued so if you really wanna get back at someone dont sleep with their SO, sue 'em!
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In 1995, Robert Lee Brock, a Virginia prison inmate, decided to take a new approach to the legal system. After filing a number of unsuccessful lawsuits against the prison system, Brock sued himself. He claimed his civil rights and religious beliefs were violated when he allowed himself to get drunk. After all, it was inebriation that created his cycle of committing crimes and being incarcerated. He demanded $5 million from himself. However, since he didn't earn an income behind bars, he felt the state should pay. Needless to say, the case was thrown out. In 1996, Florida physical therapist Paul Shimkonis sued his local nudie bar claiming whiplash from a lap dancer's large breasts. Shimkonis felt he suffered physical harm and mental anguish from the breasts, which he claimed felt like "cement blocks" hitting him. Shimkonis sought justice in the amount of $15,000, which was denied.
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ArtIsResistance posted:holy lol your care levels need to be chilled Look at who I'm saying that to and tell me I'm wrong. its called self defense
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DONNA BARSTOW ORIGINAL CONTENT DO NOT STEAL http://boingboing.net/2012/07/02/cartoonist.html quote:Paging Charles Carreon! Someone on the internet wants money from mocking critics, but may need a hand with the legal not-so-niceties.
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Dick Fagballzson posted:Most of these cases are about people being retards and then expecting a huge payout for their retardation. And it makes everything worse for the rest of us. im guessing that your estimation of how prevalent this is might be influenced by disproportionate media coverage, by people with vested interest in making people believe what you just said basically you are kind of a moron, but not more than average i guess
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:im guessing that your estimation of how prevalent this is might be influenced by disproportionate media coverage, by people with vested interest in making people believe what you just said assuming you are smarter than everyone else makes you just as retarded as everyone else.
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Dec 11, 2014 18:58
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eh i guess it came across that way but tort reform is one of those things that no one cares about, and literally ever person i've talked to buys into the idea that the old lady was just an opportunist because unless you specifically looked into it, you wouldn't even know there was a narrative coming from the other side. I was guilty of it too.
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TOILETLORD posted:assuming you are smarter than everyone else makes you just as retarded as everyone else. true, but that was an assessment based upon objective standards, i.e. his post
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Here's a short NY Times doc on the coffee lady if anyone gives a poo poo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCkL9UlmCOE
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If you take one wrong step on your neighbor's sidewalk you could fracture a toe and have to go to the ER. You will soon be a half-million dollars in debt for one tylenol; you are thusly obligated into litigating. Welcome to 'murica!
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They should do an episode of "The Price is Right" based on hospital billing for items, no one would ever win.
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ScratchAndSniff posted:This is a myth. Most "insignificant stupid things" are actually pretty serious, but PR departments spin it to make the claimant look crazy. (See McDonalds hot coffee incident). This gets congress crying about "tort reform" which basically means "rich corporations should be able to act with impunity"
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