quote:

Hello,

My name is Laura and i recently graduated from the UC Davis Veterinary
program. I came to Noisebridge around the Maker Faire weekend and was
overjoyed that such a place like this exists. Besides working with animals,
one of my other favorite things to do is work with soldering irons. I just
got my first Arduino last week!

One of the things I would like to do is hold a "pet hacking" night at your
place. I think that it would be fun because we could do all sorts of fun
things.

Some of my ideas include how to hook up LEDs to your dog or cat's collar
(including flea collars), how to make your computer workstation more "pet
friendly", and how to remove hair from your animals to ease home or office
cleaning using waxing and depilatories. In addition, I can also teach you
guys how to feed human food and medicine to animals to cut on costs.

Let me know what you guys think because I think it would be a fun night for
all.

Laura

quote:

This sounds like an awesome idea! And partially like a troll post, but
I'll roll with it just in case it isn't.

Could you please not bring cats into the space or do anything that
would dump a bunch cat dander into the space. There are many of us
that are horribly (violently) allergic. Thanks!

- --
Rubin
rubin at starset.net

quote:

Hi Rubin,

This is as serious as it can be. I am not terribly familar with the whole
troll concept though. I am new to mailing lists.

Laura

Sagebrush posted:

when did "cooking" start being referred to as "food hacking" exactly

As a Millennial I posted:

food hack: blot your frozen pizza with a paper towel to remove excess grease

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Parking meter at noisebride"]
>>FYI, a couple of non-members (looking at the fact they didn't have the door code) brought in a parking meter into NB. They're pretty excited by the fact it has quarters in it.

>>This is my first time at the space, so it's hard for me to negotiate the legal and excellence aspects of this with them.

>>If somemember is interested in getting rid of this from NB, now would be the right time to intervene...

>Next time something like that happens, I would suggest calling the police.

A significant portion of the noisebridge community views the police as armed thugs-of-last-resort and I personally would strongly recommend speaking directly with individuals over invoking the enforcement body of a violent white supremacist system.

'Nobody' willing to step up is symptomatic of an ailing community. The legality of the parking meter is actually functionally less important than the fact that our community is ailing, and I'll tell you why.

Remember when someone called the city inspectors as part of the NoiseMeme wars? This is symptomatic of social strife, but it is a very real threat to our existence. Social strife, escalated, produces conditions that threaten our existence. Our goal should be, where possible, not to escalate, but to hold ground through our unity of purpose, and to achieve a safe and comfortable space through the shared labor of implacably firm but kind hands.

When our community relies on violent physical force and the authorities to solve our internal conflicts, we *throughout the space and community* reinforce class distinctions that inherently privilege some of us over others. Class and race background heavily determine what your previous interactions with the police might have been like, and also deeply influence how the police treat you when they encounter you. Upon entering the space, the police must determine who is 'legitimate', who to believe. There are some members of our community who would not be viewed favorably in this measure, because of who they are and the prejudices the police are proven to hold. There are enough members of our community who have had enough negative interactions with the authorities in the past (often, being beaten, caged, or abused) that inviting the police into the space will radically change the nature and accessibility of the space to others.

I want to be clear that I am not advocating for a lawless state, but rather that anarchism, one of our founding notions, provides mechanisms far more effective than force for achieving harmony. Additionally, this philosophy informs us that a reliance on force will divide and destroy our community, rather than uniting and healing the rifts that already exist.

If you are uncomfortable initiating a conversation, seek the support of others. If others will not help you, and noisebridge feels filled with methy tweaky thievery, think on this: without a community of people dedicated to working to create the space we would like to see, there is no way for external forces to create this for us. If there is a specific highly violent or dangerous incident, where the police might be appropriate, they will still eventually leave and the circumstances that created that incident will continue to exist.

'Enforcing peace' is not possible. Only creating it is. What the police enforce, my friends, is the status quo.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Parking meter at noisebride"]
>> As I understood, this "person" was very promptly and firmly told to
>> remove the parking meter from the space. Due to this (& other)
>> unexcellence, there are people willing to remove him from the space.
>>
>> This same individual installed a bitcoin mining cluster in the server
>> closet, and repeatedly plugged it in after being told not to without
>> emailing rack list and obtaining further "guidance" - that is pretty
>> unexcellent on a number of levels.
>>
>> I unplugged said cluster last night, because it was noisy as well as an
>> unexcellent misuse of resources.
>>
>> My personal thoughts are that people who cause drama, and don't respect
>> Noisebrige, can get the f*** out. I don't think this requires egregiously
>> bad behavior.
>
> Wow, the same person, huh?
>
> What does the bitcoin mining cluster look like? What's the easiest way to
> send it to e-waste? Would be happy to help get rid of it.
>
Part of the reason why this is so unexcellent is that its contained within
a locked "animal" cage that is too large to fit through the server closet
door. We'd have to cut the locks and disassemble or something to move it.

" [Noisebridge-discuss posted:

question about bitcoins (featuring Noisebridge accounting!)"]
TL;DR: How do I find out how many BTC have been donated to Noisebridge?

So, some of you may remember that I have been the keeper of Noisebridge's
bitcoins. I cashed 4.46219btc a while ago back on 3/29/2013 when we were
young and innocent at $89, and paid that to Noisebridge.

Later on, I *tried* to cash some more out, but cashing out in that case
meant cashing out via mtgox, so that's all gone, never mind. As I've said
before, I'll take the hit for that, and replenish Noisebridge's bitcoffers
with my own hard-earned bitcoinage.

So now I'm looking to cash out the rest of our bitmonies. Unfortunately, if
I look at the transactions on my own wallet's measure of incoming and
outgoing payments, there's a bunch of bitcoin shuffling going on between my
addresses and its not entirely clear how much of my account should be
Noisebridge's. I vaguely remember Andy and others told me that that info is
not very reliable for balances internal to a single wallet.

So what's the best way of me working out how much pretend libertarian dream
money Noisebridge has?

This is the blockchain's tally of donations to the Noisebridge address:
https://blockchain.info/address/1B5sJQ6Wu6AmK9xG5YTic4Nszw4PS7UMAM

Am I right in assuming that the total listed here (11.26075882BTC) is the
total amount sent to Noisebridge (not including my wallet rearranging
itself publicly)? Somebody let me know before I make a terrible financial
error.

If I'm not, then I will shortly cash out 6.79856882BTC (which is 11.26.. -
the 4.46... I sold previously) for the benefit of Noisebridge. That should
be around 4,271 of your earth dollars.

Does that sound right?

uncurable mlady posted:

despite all my rage I am still just a hash in a cage

Jonny 290 posted:

an 'anarchist' collective has a rule list so complex they need a version control system

As a Millennial I posted:

i gotta learn my german again

Jonny 290 posted:

Today was the greatest
day I've ever sold
No time for tomorrow
I recommend you hodl

quote:

I heard you were climbing up the wall outside the building to get into
noisebridge. This is unexcellent. Please do not do it again.

I will provide you with your own door code (like many people have) so you
can get in by typing your code into the payphone. Please email me with a
number at least seven digits, and i will put that in as your code.

If you are opposed to using a code to get into noisebridge you can ask
someone for a physical key, which will work even if the computers are
down. But no more climbing the building.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

It has come to my attention that..."]
Are you people so *INSANE* that you think that ANY OF THIS is acceptable
behaviour ANYWHERE?

Have you wandered SO FAR off the MAIN SEQUENCE of HUMANITY that you think
that not only ANY OF THIS STUFF is okay, and not the stuff of writing "okay
boy i hosed up really badly there maybe i'm going to spend like six months
with just me a copy of the world's literature and Eliza, the AI therapist
to work out how to sort my screwed out self out", let alone posting screeds
EVEN LONGER THAN THIS one stoutly defending yourself and thinking there is
some sort of power-structure conspiracy to persecute you from your
god-given right to spend hours a day unzipping and zipping in A ROOM WITH
SOME 3D PRINTERS IN IT?

Look, together I am happy to work with people to create amazing tools and
think new thoughts, have funny stories to tell, and strange robots to
build, but I am finally fading in the jolly side-activity of gently guiding
people in the apparently tricky task of not spending THREE DAYS IN A ROW
without doing something so INCOMPREHENDINGLY AND UNCONSCIOUSLY
TRANSGRESSIVE that they don't even anticipate anyone raising a single
spock-like eyebrow.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

?How not to crash at noisebridge"]
Now, NB junkie hackers need to be more vigilant about leaving their works laying around....found a tie and rig in the bathroom just minutes before a youngster went in there. This is a far more disturbing "trend" than people eating food or taking a little nappie.

Gotta admit I was both suprised and pleased that "Sleeping has been sanctioned at NB" but frankly SHOCKED that people would "allow" heavy drug use (as long as your a member, anything goes,right?)

I AM NOT A "MEMBER" OF NB, BUT A PART (ITALICS) OF NB.

I am of the opinion that the whole "membership" thing is becoming obsolete, is limiting and encourages elitist, classicist mentality, aptly demonstrated by people who happen to have "homes" and typically manifest rather antiquated attitudes engendered by the techno-weenie/isolated/weirdo lifestyles of these struggling bobos.

bitcoin bastard posted:

legit surprised the 3d printer hasn't grown legs and walked off yet

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

PleasingFungus posted:

the full rant is pretty long but also pretty great

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Feces and Urine in the shop"]
I arrived at Noisebridge about 15 minutes ago to get some work done. There was a large pile of feces next to the table saw and a drying puddle of urine next to the drill press. I have cleaned up the feces and am in the process of drying, sweeping, and cleaning up the urine.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

unannounced groups of non-members at Noisebridge (esp. kids)"]
> I would say that individual members give out keys to people that those
> individual members trust. Personally, I wouldn't hand a key to anyone
> that isn't a member. I never have and I wouldn't feel right doing so.
> That's just me (seriously).

That's just what I suggested. Though I have previously suggested we put
a copy of the key on the website, if you can mill your own key, come on
down!

A list of 150-200 people who may have a key is probably not useful to
Noisebridge. I bet more than a number of members would be doubleplus
unhappy about such a list, myself included. It has a chilling effect
without much of a return, I think.

Do we really need a list of names to tell us that any crackhead on the
street can bump that lock with a rubber mallet?

quote:

Older guy with white combed over hair. Around 5'10. Jean-Jacques was repeatedly caught hoarding large quantities of personal stuff in Noisebridge and subsequently lying about its removal from the space. This culminated in the discovery that JJ had filled approximately 60 boxes worth of stuff into the crawl space beneath the first floor in the basement, directly after having been given an ultimatum to remove all his personal stuff from the space be banned.

BONGHITZ posted:

i still cannot get over that mans pants


they are not even bell bottoms, what are they?

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Cynthia asked to leave the space"]
GETTING THE POLICE INVOLVED IN A HACKERSPACE IS ONLY GOING TO DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD!!! When you call the po-pos they fill out reports in their little memo pads AND DOCUMENT THEM!!!
That means that when you get the police involved more often, the likelihood of them wanting to probe an investigation on this place increases!!! TEN FOLD!!! THIS is supposed to be an ANARCHY Space not a "Oh let's call the police because we're a bunch of pussies" Space! The only time people should ever be calling the police is if someone has a deadly weapon or at least says that they have a deadly weapon, or threatens to kill someone. Otherwise, NOISEBRIDGE should be the one dealing with the situation at hand. NOT anyone else!!!!!

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

adult themed posters in a do-acracy"]

quote:

I'd like to voice my concern about the adult themed posters in NB. To each his or her own, but adult themed posters are not something I personally want to see. How are the rights of the person who hung the posters and my objections to seeing them reconciled in a do-acracy?

I think I remember someone was working on some kind of real time text detection, and integrating it into a headset that would overlay a version of the text translated into a different language. This would let you read translated versions of things in languages you don't know.

For your purposes, maybe you could adapt this project to do some kind of keyword match like Net Nanny or Safe surf or whatever do, and overlay a black box onto any content that you could conceivably deem objectionable?