"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

asked to leave"]
Dave told me about an incident late Wednesday nite where he was offered some meth by an older white male named Paul. Dave felt so put off that he had to leave. He approached me because he didn't want to be the one to confront Paul even when I informed he had a right to do so.

I proceeded to ask Paul to leave and come back at the next Tuesday meeting to explain his actions. I explained the reason and named the person who was offered the drugs.

One person thought no person should ever be banned. I refused his request to propose a 3 month's break.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Let's use a Git repo to manage our massive, sprawling bureaucracy"]tl;dr: I think we should use a git repository as the canonical version of our policies and procedures.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Chris AKA raging bull has attacked a noisebridge member"]Chris AKA raging bull, was asked to leave. After refusing to leave he was approached by another noisebridge member who said he would call the police if he did not leave. Chris then punched the member in the head knocking him to the ground as other members surrounded him and guided him down the the steps and out the gate. Chris then returned and broke the lights at the gate.

I along with several other people in the community would like to propose consensus for his permanent ban from noisebridge. Chris AKA raging bull was informed that he has the opportunity to return on tuesday to argue his case.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

/territorializing"]
beings bringing animals to the space and taking over work/study/learn/do space(s) sucks, is selfish, and inconsiderate.

the other day we came in and some being had put another being's pit bull in the treehouse (booth) because the being with the dog had completely left the space and the dog behind on its own. this was apparently the resolution until the being with the dog returned (if at all) rendering that part of the space unusable.

summation:
last time i checked NB isn't your personal animal shelter, daycare, surrogate daycare/supervision.

it is unexcellent to close off ANY part of the space to use for your pet pen or private romper room.

it is unexcellent and inconsiderate to leave the space and your animal(s) behind in the space.

i love having animals 'that can deal' visit the space and hang out with everyone and it's a very kewl aspect of NB's openess.

please don't project your own issues or agendas onto your animal(s) or the space in general.

86 posted:

Harvey is no longer allowed in the space. Has admitted to stealing, was caught sleeping in the stairwell on many occassions, returned items that belonged to multiple residents of Noisebridge. Was seen and accounted for by multiple members of Noisebridge to be digging in other people's belongings. Many tools and properties of Noisebridge were found among Harvey's things.

On 24th September 2014 Harvey attacked Mitch while trying to interfere with the contents of the mailbox. "If you see Harvey ever again, call the police. He bit my thumb tonight to get back the piece of mail he was taking from our mailbox."

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

why would hackers come to noisebridge?"]
my complaint is that the culture of noisebridge has become so uninteresting and unrelated to hacking that it is bordering on irrelavent. The fact that you are volunteering your time to maintain the internet at a homeless shelter is quaint, but it doesn't change the fact that most hackers don't want to go there anymore.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

[Drama] Fwd: [Noisebridge-announce] Important Noisebridge Procedural Changes"]
One of my first all-night-hack sessions at Noisebridge in 2009 or so was
accompanied by a quiet little hiss-crack all night long from goth kids in
the library having a nitrous death guild afterparty. Why does Noisebridge
have the wrong kind of people offering you the wrong kind of drugs now?

What are the wrong kinds of drugs?

Meth is bad, don't get me wrong. It's provably toxic to people who use it.
I think it's interesting to try and contextualize increased meth use in the
space with shifts in the broader socioeconomic context that supports
nosiebridge.

Want less homeless drug users doing drugs that make themselves worse?

Build a better society.

uncurable mlady posted:

someone post the fishtank thing

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Hacker Aquarium"]
The idea is that the logic here is not mutually exclusive. I'm attempting to bring something to the space I am relatively good at.

Moreover, questions regarding maintenance aren't assuming the additional hacks I'm going to use.

Such as:

An automated top-off system/water changer
An automated feeder

The berlin method is more than enough to handle the maintenance of a small salt water aquarium.

The industry creates an illusion that they are hard to keep and or require high maintenance.

Hence, the reason why they are able to continue to iterate the same products and sell them for very high costs for those that do not truly understand that all you need is to remove the excess waste from the system for it to work.

That process does not have to be tedious.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

[Drama] Fwd: [Noisebridge-announce] Important Noisebridge Procedural Changes"]
The Tuesday meeting the next day had multiple people, including Kelly say she felt safer in the space for not having Cynthia in it. When weev, who still had his trial lined up, says that he wanted the Police to come into the space and remove her, I feel pretty confident about having made the right call.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Power?"]
> Does NB have power?

I was told at the last meeting that hackers around the world still have a
fair amount of good will for Noisebridge, but I expect that our ability to
exert direct influence to change and improve society is fairly limited
right now.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

why is sleeping at noisebridge a problem?"]
Jeebus Crikey on a Cracker,

I leave Noisebridge for FOUR YEARS-- that's YEEEEEAAAARRRRS, Mr. Van Winkle, and I check back in on the disgustion-list to see what's shakin' with good ol' NB, and YOU'RE STILL DISCUSSING WHY IT'S A PROBLEM THAT PEOPLE SLEEP AT NOISEBRIDGE?! (?(?!)!)

Al, would you please bop some weasels on the head for me... I can't reach the weasel-bopping interface from where my meatspace avatar currently nests.

So what else is new? The door opening operation is still subprime, hackables are disorganized and disrespected, and [crazy] people are telling each other not to use the word crazy? Far out man, glad not much has changed... but hope you don't still have bedbugs.

As a Millennial I posted:

for context: these dorks pride themselves on their "anarchist" society, and, well, the results speak for themselves

quote:

I don't even know where to start with all of this. I really don't like
this idea of centralization of power for a lot of reasons.

I am unabashedly still for radical inclusion of whole communities in this
process. We don't have a still don't have a strong latino presence in
noisebridge, for example, even though we live in the Mission and we should
be functioning as a community resources.

That said, some how we wound up with a "membership" process that has been
reverted. Under what I see in github:
-- The decision making process has been closed to members only.
-- ... having money as a requirement for being a member???? If that
isn't noisebridge gentrification, what else is?
-- ... Making no effort to expand or streamline how more people can
participate if they aren't locally present during meeting times
-- having multiple reports of people on the board going strategically
dark during important decisions, and then claiming a consensus

I realize that all of these passed some form of consensus.... But we need a
lot of work on this going forward.

As a side note, I really don't appreciate demonization of people because of
their choice of drugs. We need to be fighting for the end of the drug war,
not using it as some transparent cheap political trick.

jony ive aces posted:

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Cynthia and "Asian" Reference"]
It's important for people in Noisebridge to feel safe from each other. My first day there, watching Hackers, I was attacked from behind by a large robot rushing in from the other room. That hurt a lot, and was not excellent.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

about policy vis-a-vis true excellence"]
I'm not sure that Rachel's point is that we will "just have to live
with meth-selling".

Adherence to a firm written policy ahead of calm, rational, and
empathic discourse is a trojan horse of a meta-policy that ruins
communities from the inside out.

I hope some of you would consider reading Antifragile, by Nassim Taleb.

Sagebrush posted:

my favorite one is the guy on the mailing list asking if there is a way to turn meth back into allergy meds

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Noisebridge chem class?"]
I am very interested in this. I have a problem that you might be able to
solve.

I have chronic allergies and it is increasingly difficult to get
antihistamines. Not only do I have to get a script from my doctor, but
the pharmacy also keeps track of every package I buy.

Is there any way you can convert meth BACK into allergy medicine?

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

why cointelpro2.0 kills community"]
I agree that no Consensus was reached at the Tuesday meeting you reference. However,consensus history[2] and policy repository[3] differ.

PLEASE, read the diff[1] of the meeting notes.

[1] https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=Meeting_Notes_2014_03_11&diff=40675&oldid=40673
[2] https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Consensus_history
[3] https://github.com/noisebridge/bureaucracy/blob/master/people/banned.md

quote:

I heard you were climbing up the wall outside the building to get into
noisebridge. This is unexcellent. Please do not do it again.

I will provide you with your own door code (like many people have) so you
can get in by typing your code into the payphone. Please email me with a
number at least seven digits, and i will put that in as your code.

If you are opposed to using a code to get into noisebridge you can ask
someone for a physical key, which will work even if the computers are
down. But no more climbing the building.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

It has come to my attention that..."]
Are you people so *INSANE* that you think that ANY OF THIS is acceptable
behaviour ANYWHERE?

Have you wandered SO FAR off the MAIN SEQUENCE of HUMANITY that you think
that not only ANY OF THIS STUFF is okay, and not the stuff of writing "okay
boy i hosed up really badly there maybe i'm going to spend like six months
with just me a copy of the world's literature and Eliza, the AI therapist
to work out how to sort my screwed out self out", let alone posting screeds
EVEN LONGER THAN THIS one stoutly defending yourself and thinking there is
some sort of power-structure conspiracy to persecute you from your
god-given right to spend hours a day unzipping and zipping in A ROOM WITH
SOME 3D PRINTERS IN IT?

Look, together I am happy to work with people to create amazing tools and
think new thoughts, have funny stories to tell, and strange robots to
build, but I am finally fading in the jolly side-activity of gently guiding
people in the apparently tricky task of not spending THREE DAYS IN A ROW
without doing something so INCOMPREHENDINGLY AND UNCONSCIOUSLY
TRANSGRESSIVE that they don't even anticipate anyone raising a single
spock-like eyebrow.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

?How not to crash at noisebridge"]
Now, NB junkie hackers need to be more vigilant about leaving their works laying around....found a tie and rig in the bathroom just minutes before a youngster went in there. This is a far more disturbing "trend" than people eating food or taking a little nappie.

Gotta admit I was both suprised and pleased that "Sleeping has been sanctioned at NB" but frankly SHOCKED that people would "allow" heavy drug use (as long as your a member, anything goes,right?)

I AM NOT A "MEMBER" OF NB, BUT A PART (ITALICS) OF NB.

I am of the opinion that the whole "membership" thing is becoming obsolete, is limiting and encourages elitist, classicist mentality, aptly demonstrated by people who happen to have "homes" and typically manifest rather antiquated attitudes engendered by the techno-weenie/isolated/weirdo lifestyles of these struggling bobos.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Feces and Urine in the shop"]
I arrived at Noisebridge about 15 minutes ago to get some work done. There was a large pile of feces next to the table saw and a drying puddle of urine next to the drill press. I have cleaned up the feces and am in the process of drying, sweeping, and cleaning up the urine.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

unannounced groups of non-members at Noisebridge (esp. kids)"]
> I would say that individual members give out keys to people that those
> individual members trust. Personally, I wouldn't hand a key to anyone
> that isn't a member. I never have and I wouldn't feel right doing so.
> That's just me (seriously).

That's just what I suggested. Though I have previously suggested we put
a copy of the key on the website, if you can mill your own key, come on
down!

A list of 150-200 people who may have a key is probably not useful to
Noisebridge. I bet more than a number of members would be doubleplus
unhappy about such a list, myself included. It has a chilling effect
without much of a return, I think.

Do we really need a list of names to tell us that any crackhead on the
street can bump that lock with a rubber mallet?

BONGHITZ posted:

i still cannot get over that mans pants


they are not even bell bottoms, what are they?

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Cynthia asked to leave the space"]
GETTING THE POLICE INVOLVED IN A HACKERSPACE IS ONLY GOING TO DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD!!! When you call the po-pos they fill out reports in their little memo pads AND DOCUMENT THEM!!!
That means that when you get the police involved more often, the likelihood of them wanting to probe an investigation on this place increases!!! TEN FOLD!!! THIS is supposed to be an ANARCHY Space not a "Oh let's call the police because we're a bunch of pussies" Space! The only time people should ever be calling the police is if someone has a deadly weapon or at least says that they have a deadly weapon, or threatens to kill someone. Otherwise, NOISEBRIDGE should be the one dealing with the situation at hand. NOT anyone else!!!!!

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

adult themed posters in a do-acracy"]

quote:

I'd like to voice my concern about the adult themed posters in NB. To each his or her own, but adult themed posters are not something I personally want to see. How are the rights of the person who hung the posters and my objections to seeing them reconciled in a do-acracy?

I think I remember someone was working on some kind of real time text detection, and integrating it into a headset that would overlay a version of the text translated into a different language. This would let you read translated versions of things in languages you don't know.

For your purposes, maybe you could adapt this project to do some kind of keyword match like Net Nanny or Safe surf or whatever do, and overlay a black box onto any content that you could conceivably deem objectionable?

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

adult themed posters in a do-acracy"]
Is the steam powered dildo displaying adult material? Or is it just the posters?

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Someone shat on the soldering irons"]
I just walked into the space.

Someone poo poo all over the soldering irons left out on the main table.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Dogs"]
# MM,
# you have been making awesome and excellent>>
# points please don't encourage the mere attention whores>>
# to come bitch at a meeting.

# let's bring a bunch of tranny, crossdressin, A-sexual dogs>>
# to the space to compliment the already current mix...

# re: people were coming here before that aren't anymore because>>
# they can't breathe?
# in the last year there has been MAYBE one person bitching about>>
# bitches in the space and she was a total bitch (maybe guy) sooo...
# she kept on bitching and was totally ignored and hence...
# no more bitching. and bitches with tails are better ;-)

# i also love those talking about people feeling uncomfortable>>
# when those talking about this are people who try to make others>>
# feel uncomfortable or try to intimidate them or self-label themselves>>
# NB security (there is no such thing).

# bridgers, bring all your dogs and more often...

quote:

I'd hate to say it, but I have just adopted a, "This is why we can't have nice things, and I am OK with that" Policy at noisebridge.

There is just nothing that can be done at Noisebridge that will change this that will not drastically change the culture.

So, what I recommend is, guard your stuff, take it home, and don't bring quality items to leave at noisebridge.

VLADIMIR GLUTEN posted:

good thing they commented out all those words, otherwise that'd be really offensive

quote:

> >Please quit using hate speech on the list. It's really offensive and unnecessary.

*nothing* i have said is using hate speech in any way. stop trying to spin things to your agenda because you disagree with something someone says. you are in charge of nothing and no one at the space or on any list(s).
stop telling people how to talk or what to say. although i have *never*posted any kind of hatred on any list i will not be wasting time i can't have back defending myself to you. i would much rather spend it doing excellent, sharing, creative, educational things and making positive contacts.
get over yourself.

infernal machines posted:

oh yeah? when is nap time?

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Noisebridge chem class?"]
Hi everyone,

My name is Trent and I have been on and off visiting Noisebridge after a friend of mine showed me the place a few months ago. I am from Oakland.

For a while now I have been running my own chemical lab in my basement. It has worked out quite well but I was wondering if anyone would like to work alongside me on this. One of my most popular chemicals I have produced is desoxyephedrine. This has gotten a lot of buyers and I have done well as a result.

Since this is the case I have decided to see if anyone wanted to participate in chemistry classes hosted by me personally. I can teach you guys how to make chemicals for use in all sorts of your projects and for making money as well.

Anyway, let me know what you guys think!

- Trent

quote:

desoxyephedrine .. otherwise known as "Meth", a Schedule II controlled substance. (The brand name for this particular methamphetamine is "Desoxyn" even.)

Did you really just post, to a public and monitored list, that you run a meth lab at home? really? .. and you're -ASKING- for help running a meth lab on top of it.

Sir, I've heard of impaired judgement before .. but that takes the cake. Have fun with the attention this posting is likely to generate with the local PD.

-M

quote:

I'm not going to suggest that people make meth at Noisebridge. Also I am using TOR for a reason, doofus. I am not posting my address here and I onyl said that I was in Oakland.

Also my product is never kept on site. And besides, I see good people in Noisebridge who can benefit from learning off of my skills.

I am not trying to make your space into a "meth lab". I am trying to teach you guys chemistry.

- Trent

quote:

quote:

Sir, I've heard of impaired judgement before .. but that takes the cake. Have fun with the attention this posting is likely to generate with the local PD.

This is one of the big problems with the drug war: it comes perilously close to criminalizing the practice of chemistry. In Texas, as I'm sure you're aware, the possession of laboratory glassware is now considered evidence of a crime unless you're a Real Chemist. Here in Argentina, I can't buy acetone, hydrochloric acid, or sodium sulfate, because they're restricted to Real Chemists, in an effort to stop underground chemistry labs producing drugs. And no doubt molecular nanotechnology will run into the same roadblock.

This is not a new problem; we hackers experienced the same thing during the Middle Ages, when they called us "witches" and burned us. But it's deeply dismaying to see it returning in the heart of the modern world.

K

quote:

quote:

I would say that this is an unexcellent thign to bring into noisebridge. Then again when has that stopped anything before?

Can you clarify what you're referring to? Do you mean the discussion of witch-burnings, or something else?

K

quote:

What is wrong about me wanting to teach a chemistry lab at Noisebridge? Just because I engage in so-called "nefarious" activities at home means that I am not allowed to provide assistance to fellow hackers?

Man I certainly hope that all of those people who break into computers don't go and teach you guys how to program code.

- Trent

quote:

quote:

Can't we just make Jenkem in the space?

Can we have a serious discussion about this? I am offering my skills as a chemistry hacker here.

- Trent

quote:

quote:

Hey gently caress face, it's not about it being legal or not. I've lost friends to meth, and hacking isn't a chemical addicition. If you're a troll, great, be an internet dick. If you're for real I will fly back from Japan to kick your rear end out of the space and wreck your chem lab.

At which point did I say that I was going to give people meth? Calm down man. Just because I make the stuff at home doesn't mean that I am going to make the stuff at Noisebridge.

Again, there are people in the space who go and break into computers and we allow them to participate in the space. Why can't I go and teach people chemistry?

- Trent

quote:

quote:

Trent, is there other chemistry you can teach besides meth production? Are you teaching as Walt, Heisenberg, or Pinkman? At first blush, it sounds inauspiciously like the latter.

I am not a fan of Breaking Bad. I also don't have a TV. My basement lab is really my entertainment.

- Trent

quote:

I am very interested in this. I have a problem that you might be able to solve.

I have chronic allergies and it is increasingly difficult to get antihistamines. Not only do I have to get a script from my doctor, but the pharmacy also keeps track of every package I buy.

Is there any way you can convert meth BACK into allergy medicine?

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Use of Nitrous Oxide in the space on Sunday night"]

quote:

To sum up what happened: During NB's 4 year anniversary party this last Sunday there were a handful of people near the sewing machines doing Nitrous (i.e. whippets) for hours. I have never seen anything like this in the space before and I felt extremely uncomfortable, especially since some were regulars to the space.

"it's a party dude, cmon" was the gist of what I got.

I got into a small disagreement with someone tonight and found that ultimately he (and friends) felt whippets were legal (they're not, except strict medical use), 100% safe, and since alcohol was being served I should be upset about that too.

they're right. it's not up to anyone to say "oh, this drug is fine @NB but THIS one not at all."

if it's fine for someone to drink booze at the space, then it's fine for me or anyone else to drink electric kool-aid, morning glory, ayuhuasca, or anything else and take anything else.

keep in mind there are also beings at the space taking psychological medication(s) and giving them/trading them to others.

also keep in mind it was a special occasion so beings were more likely to be 'open' with things...

quote:

Actually this is not true, the people who were using the nitrous were also testing the Brain Oxygen Level Measuring device (looks like a blue headband) which has been worked on at noisebridge a lot.

I saw the charts showing how brain bloodflow and oxygenation was affected both by nitrous consumption and conscious efforts of the people playing with it.

As for people playing the "getting the door kicked in" card, get real. You know that nitrous cartridges and balloons are a lot less likely to cause legal problems than having a bar serving alcoholic drinks without checking IDs. Not that we would ever do that.

Everyone who loves noisebridge should accept and appreciate the fact that we are an anarchist organization, and we benefit from that in many ways.

Just because you are offended by nitrous use and not by the drinking of alcohol doesn't make you better than anyone else.

quote:

I went to hackmeet today, tried to join in a few conversations, and got told
to gently caress off because I don't already know people. As I was crying and talking
to someone on the Internet about how these kinds of events are intentionally
hostile to people who don't already have significant social connections, some
guy walks by me, and rubs his hand on my right breast, and calmly walks on as
if nothing happened.

I got groped while I was crying at noisebridge, during an event with lots of
people at it, and nobody did anything. Nobody spoke a word to me. Nobody
offered any kind of help whatsoever, and lots of people walked by me, as I was
there for about half an hour after that happened.

I'm done with noisebridge, done with its community which enables sexual
assault, done with events which are intentionally hostile to newcomers, done
with all the bullshit about it being an "anarchist space" where nothing can be
said about entitled jerks who make the space hostile for others.

Until someone works on the whole "hostility to newcomers" bit of hacker
culture, harassment will be endemic. As long as newcomers are seen as people to
be excluded and hazed, no amount of non-harassment policies or codes of conduct
will do anything substantial.

Kicking out the people who grope isn't enough and won't cause systemic change.
Change the culture which encourages treating newcomers and outsiders like poo poo,
and ignores anything anyone does to newcomers, don't just kick out people who
further this sort of culture.

Have fun with your hackerspaces and your lovely-rear end subculture based on
exclusion and abuse. I don't even need to talk to people like y'all and I'm not
going to spend a moment of extra time with a bunch of people who can't even
look at me after I get groped in front of fifteen people.

I have a key to noisebridge. If anyone wants it, let me know.

quote:

I wish I would get groped at Noisebridge. Naturally, it happened at the
hackmeet that I *missed.* (Who am I kidding? I missed all of them.) I'll
try crying next time, hopefully that'll do the trick. I could use a good
gropin'.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

I got groped at noisebridge at hackmeet"]
I've ignored noisebridge and the mailing list for months, because the bar got so low that i couldn't afford the drilling equipment needed to locate it. I don't give two shits about your oogle problem or your sleeping drama or whatever other whiny bullshit is the wankfest du jour, but this is really, really loving important.

I brought up the pervasive habit of the "radically inclusive" hacker community to protect abusive people and behavior in the name of not ostracizing people or being "too PC" or otherwise loving up the us-against-them status quo. This is a stellar example of that behavior. Seriously, I don't know how one gets such a mirror shine onto a turd. Satellites can see that poo poo from space.

Jesus H. Christ in a flying rat vagina, what the actual gently caress is wrong with you people? I honestly don't even have words for how completely hosed this is. It makes me want to get a pliers from the dirty shop and start breaking fingers until everyone's learned their lesson.

There is a culture specific to noisebridge of nonaccountability. There is no real penalty for unacceptable behavior. There is no repercussion to an individual or individuals who cross a line or harm another person. The process of consensus must be applied to EVERYTHING, such that no cohesive group action can be performed efficiently or quickly, if at all. "Do-ocracy" subs for group action but has no lasting effect on the psychology of the group or how it functions. I have often described it as a black hole into which one can throw unlimited amounts of resources with no return.

There is also a culture specific to the hacker community of pervasive emotional abuse, executed in such a way that promotes mistrust, paranoia, fear and aggression among peers and friends. Nonvigilance guarantees victimhood, and victims are reminded that it's their fault for not being vigilant enough or not striking first. Infosec is the biggest offender by far, but this mindset has spilled over into anything connected to the hacker scene and culture. Bonus prizes include sexist behavior and ideology among both genders, a generous sprinkling of rape culture, and all the slut-shaming your heart could desire.

Mash these two things together, and you get "a woman goes to a hacker party and is alienated by the local hacker community to the point where she is publicly crying, and is then sexually assaulted while crying, in front of community members who do nothing. This same community proceeds to then lash out at her ON THE INTERNET for complaining about being sexually assaulted."

Oh, and don't try and hand me that "noisebridge-discuss isn't the same as the people in the actual space, isn't the same at the irc channel". You people pass the buck so fast I'm surprised DARPA hasn't claimed it for renewable energy. Everyone who does something in conjunction with the noisebridge name publicly represents the space and philosophy, whether you like it or not. I have been uncomfortable for a long time with declaring any association with noisebridge, because of poo poo like this. The noisebridge community is an embarrassment, and has been for a while. gently caress your bedbugs, gently caress your robot, gently caress your kitchen, gently caress yo couch.

quote:

> Since I don't visit NB that often, I kind of wondered if transients just use NB as a 2nd home.

I think you are really selling NB short here.

Many of them use NB as their first home.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Daravinne / stolen data"]
1) Learn how to use a goddamn paragraph. Is your enter key broken or is that too being kept by Daravinne? This is painful to read just based on this alone.

quote:

Just as the CCC has many logos, we too have many logos. I think this may be the best yet:

atomicthumbs posted:

Wednesday June 19th 2013
(Emailed to Noisebridge-discuss by Leif)
This afternoon I asked an older man named James to leave Noisebridge.
This is loud obnoxious James who used to wear a cowboy hat and be around frequently. Today was the first time I've seen him in several months; I heard he has been in southen california.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

[drama] New logo = terrorism?"]

quote:

So where exactly is the consensus on this?

They may have had cool logos, but let's not forget the RAF [Red Army Faction] and the Weather Underground committed acts of violence against civilians. The RAF killed 34 people in bombings and shootings. The WU was clueless as well as well as violent, killing its own members with an ineptly constructed nail bomb.

None of this constitutes excellence in my book.

How is the new logo not representative of -- or linked to -- violence and ineptitude?

Wha?

Solidarity with violent vanguardist revolutionary groups? The WU and the RAF were quite dependent on the charisma of their leaders; provoking a class war was their only strategy.

I believe that the ideas and methods of the Dutch Provotariats suit the hacker zeitgeist better.

OSI bean dip posted:

Noisebridge getting rid of their stove was the biggest drama remover.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Door bell"]
Greetings Blaine,

I've got to say that while I appreciate your enthusiasm in getting this doorbell problem solved I think RFID is a horrible technology for that purpose...

I know a thing or two about RFID from hanging out with Chris Paget who graciously taught a couple of RFID workshops at Noisebridge...

There is just now way I'm going to walk around with an RFID tag and I don't recommend anyone else do it either. The presence of an RFID tag can be detected from across the street or perhaps even farther away. RFID sensors could in fact be placed around the city to track the movements of Noisebridgers. Or how about a public-garbage-can that explodes when a certain number of Noisebridges congregate near it? Sound crazy? I'm sure that similar devices are being developed for sucka fool US passports with the new RFID tag...

I will block the RFID access control motion. I will explain to all my Noisebridge friends my view on this matter. I won't be the only one to enthusiastically disagree.

Please give it some thought before responding.
BTW this seems to be your first post to the noisebridge-discuss list and you are suggesting this. Wow.

Cheers

~david

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Access systems and Noisebridge:

* There are a number of members that would like their access traffic to Noisebridge not to be logged, ever.
* There are a number of members who have stated that if an electronic system (no matter how secure) was to be setup and forced onto all users of Noisebridge, it'll be removed and possibly destroyed or disabled.
* Many members do not appreciate the idea of access "control" and the potential to deny a user or group of users access to Noisebridge.
* There is no official "access control" group at Noisebridge to act as a policing body to enforce any particular type of authentication system or to reprimand anyone for hacking into a system.

"[Noisebridge-discuss posted:

Noisekitchen - Looking for a plumber to do some quick work"]
it might be acceptable to pipe in the water and put a bucket under the sinks as a temporary measure.

quote:

Looking for people, leads and information for a series of
participatory improv noise performances and workshops in the Bay
Area this spring.

I’d also like to a public performance or two, where I
get a larger group (100 people or so) together for an evening to
make noises together.

“Terrible Noises for Beautiful People” is an event I run out of a
semi-fictional institution called “The Misha Glouberman School of
Learning”.

In all the events: participants are guided through a series of
improvisational structures in which they make sounds together. There
are no “performers” apart from the audience –all the sounds are
generated by the audience themselves, using their voices.

Most of the exercises are social explorations and games that look at
issues of how people relate to each other and how decisions are made
in groups. The events tend to run a pretty wide gamut of moods –
pretty crazy and chaotic at moments, quiet and contemplative at
others. They’re generally really playful and engaging and a lot of
fun. The audience/participants are generally not primarily musicians
of performers.

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