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* fucks your girl, but cooks food, leaves it and booze around your house, cleans your kitchen * hobbles self financially with long and expensive car projects because race car * enjoys drugs
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Wounded Unicorn posted:* fucks your girl, but cooks food, leaves it and booze around your house, cleans your kitchen i've known a couple guys like this tbh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_MStm5udrE
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Strudel Man posted:They also set up the conspiracy in an x-filesy kind of way where you can't actually do anything about it directly. A decent number of people apparently were so bothered by what's revealed in the quest (and it is a pretty horrifying idea, really) that they decided to kill every gnome they encountered thereafter. iirc the devs were going to have a bit more to the storyline but it got cut although that could be wishful thinking on my part Wolfsheim posted:This sounds interesting but every time I try to play arcanum the ugly, clunky UI and combat always gets me to stop one town in the patch to hide the ui and reduce it to just a bar of quick actions at the bottom makes the ui 20x more bearable
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ikanreed posted:Sorry for seriousposting, but the Nazis actually contacted Tolkien to republish German editions of lord of the rings for this very reason. the fellowship of the ring wasn't published until 1954
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Neurosis posted:the fellowship of the ring wasn't published until 1954 You can't prove this
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Wolfsheim posted:I mean how would a chaotic evil society even work I think china basically works like this. Almost everybody is a selfish amoral cheat but somehow it keeps going on
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my alignment is party
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Mange Mite posted:I think china basically works like this. Almost everybody is a selfish amoral cheat but somehow it keeps going on so drow are basically chinese people living in caves 
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ilikedirt posted:what aliignment am i neutral evil
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I flipped a coin to see if I would read this thread or not.
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tbh lawful evil is probably the best alignment
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Bobert Bobertson posted:tbh lawful evil is probably the best alignment Do you think a paladin and a lawful evil fighter or whatever could become friends over a shared love of the law Like the same way otherwise good cops will rush to the defense of the cops that murder blacks/etc
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Wolfsheim posted:Do you think a paladin and a lawful evil fighter or whatever could become friends over a shared love of the law P much, yeah. Lawful Evil dudes would make good neighbors.
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Pvt.Scott posted:P much, yeah. Lawful Evil dudes would make good neighbors. But poor landlords.
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Top City Homo posted:neutral evil fair enuff
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chaotic good = monkey chease alignment :iamafag:
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Even mid-level characters carry more cash than most villagers would ever see in a lifetime. With that kind of power, how could you NOT be an unpredictable psychopath?
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Dicere posted:Even mid-level characters carry more cash than most villagers would ever see in a lifetime. With that kind of power, how could you NOT be an unpredictable psychopath? No joke, my current party has inadvertently ruined a town by flooding its economy with too much money. Also we exterminated the town guard because apparently institutionalized but ultimately low-impact corruption warranted murder in the minds of us idiots. I'm playing a stupid stupid barbarian, but for some reason the other characters go along with the obviously dumb poo poo I propose. dnd rules
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Dicere posted:Even mid-level characters carry more cash than most villagers would ever see in a lifetime. With that kind of power, how could you NOT be an unpredictable psychopath? Here's why adventurers are terrible people: Assuming D&D 3.5 Normal man, AC ~10 hp ~2 (human commoner) Trained soldier AC ~14 hp ~4 (human warrior) Holy man/ Mage AC~10 hp~2 (human adept) + a lovely spell or two A first level fighter with 10s in all of his stats can kill a normal man in one blow, use dozens of different weapons and wear any armor. A wizard with a fireball can kill all of the able-bodied men at the town meeting with a word and a gesture, or a less powerful one can cause them to fall into a helpless slumber. A level one rogue can pick some of the world's most complex locks (dc 30, take 20, +3 skill focus +2 masterwork tools, +3 Dex, +2 from an assistant) given a good set of tools and kill an unaware man in the blink of an eye. A cleric can kill you with a touch (cause wounds) or return you from death's door on his whim. That's all stuff you can do at low level and most of the world (see DMG) are level 1-3 npc classes, likely with little gear. There's no one to stop you except the other psychopaths (PC classes) or your own hubris.
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gnarlyhotep posted:itt we are dumb fucks just in this thread?
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Pvt.Scott posted:That's all stuff you can do at low level and most of the world (see DMG) are level 1-3 npc classes, likely with little gear. There's no one to stop you except the other psychopaths (PC classes) or your own hubris. Adventurers, the CEO's of the fantasy world.
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Wolfsheim posted:Do you think a paladin and a lawful evil fighter or whatever could become friends over a shared love of the law I always thought lawful evil was like "order is more important than justice" and would be the kind of guy to execute a petty criminal in public to prove a point etc e: like same goals, different means
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Lawful Neutral master race coming through. Also gently caress WOTC for killing DnDtools.
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Bobert Bobertson posted:I always thought lawful evil was like "order is more important than justice" and would be the kind of guy to execute a petty criminal in public to prove a point etc I'm pretty sure that's lawful neutral. Lawful evil are dudes that like living in a society that protects them, but don't mind breaking laws. They're like wall street bankers that would illegally foreclose on an elderly widow but are pleased that the cops keep the poor blacks out of wall street so they can walk to their Mercedes without fear of being mugged.
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Alignments that work if traveling in a party: -Any of the lawfuls -Neutrals -All of the Goods except chaotic
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Chaotic good is the most likely thing an adventurer is to be, though??
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Pharmaskittle posted:Chaotic good is the most likely thing an adventurer is to be, though?? It's annoying because Chaotic good is an oxymoron. You cannot be stupid random but also work for the greater good.
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Alexzandvar posted:It's annoying because Chaotic good is an oxymoron. You cannot be stupid random but also work for the greater good. It's not random, it's just enforcing a personal notion of good regardless of the laws. So like if there was an evil count you'd try and remove him and his cronies by force instead of maybe petitioning the more level headed duke to take action. Lawful good also wouldn't abide with an evil count, but they'd try and go through all the legal means, like they might find that in the feudal charter the peasants are owed four holidays a month but only got three. So the paladin would use that as a de jure cause to lead a peasant revolt. 
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MegaGatts posted:It's not random, it's just enforcing a personal notion of good regardless of the laws. So like if there was an evil count you'd try and remove him and his cronies by force instead of maybe petitioning the more level headed duke to take action. Lawful good also wouldn't abide with an evil count, but they'd try and go through all the legal means, like they might find that in the feudal charter the peasants are owed four holidays a month but only got three. So the paladin would use that as a de jure cause to lead a peasant revolt. To bad chaotic to 99% of everyone means random idiot so
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Despite how bad players do it, chaotic good is basically just doing the right thing without giving a poo poo about the rule of law or social norms. Chaotic doesn't actually mean "monkey cheese fuckface" as described by any book efb
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It's just I see waaaay to many people use Chaotic as an excuse the be an annoying gently caress who just does whatever regardless of what the consequences for the rest of the party.
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Alexzandvar posted:To bad chaotic to 99% of everyone means random idiot so The DM needs to start putting some fear of gods into bad players, or just stop inviting bad players over. Seriously, I'm a huge gross nerd so I think table top RPGs are fun, but about 9 out of 10 players are horrible people to be around in any social situation. Asking them to be creative in any way means they'll just copy paste their favorite fantasy protagonist. god I hate them.
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Chaotic only means "stupid random" to assholes. Chaotic is supposed to mean that personal freedom and liberty are much more important than the laws of man or god. The good part means they're willing to help people for selfless reasons, more often than not. Chaotic neutral has the reputation it does because some people seem to read that alignment as "whacky fun times insane." It's perfectly doable to play a noble and heroic lawful evil character. Alignments in D&D only matter in two cases, spells and magic items. A paladin should be fine traveling with any evil character other than a priest, as normal mortals barely ping the "Detect Evil" radar. All detect evil tells you on a human is, "this guy is probably a selfish douche," with a low degree of accuracy. The new edition doesn't have alignment restrictions for any of the classes. Paladins now have codes of conduct to attempt to live up to. This is a good change.
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BKPR posted:this thread is chaotic bad It could be worse: Palladium uses a system where alignments are described in detailed terms with alignments describing how a character acts in a certain situation; whether they will lie, how much force they will use against innocents, how they view the law, and so on. The alignments are organized into three broad categories: Good, Selfish, and Evil. The seven core alignments are Principled (Good), Scrupulous (Good), Unprincipled (Selfish), Anarchist (Selfish), Aberrant (Evil), Miscreant (Evil), and Diabolic (Evil). An eighth alignment, Taoist, was introduced in Mystic China, but has not seen wide use.
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MegaGatts posted:The DM needs to start putting some fear of gods into bad players, or just stop inviting bad players over. Seriously, I'm a huge gross nerd so I think table top RPGs are fun, but about 9 out of 10 players are horrible people to be around in any social situation. Asking them to be creative in any way means they'll just copy paste their favorite fantasy protagonist. god I hate them. I love tabletop with absolutely no trace of irony, but holy poo poo yes players are the worst. I don't even try to play with people I'm not already good friends with anymore
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