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A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

RonMexicosPitbull posted:

pretty sure literally any handgun could have done the same thing. Reloading takes literally 3 seconds.

Lets discuss the most effcient weapon to kill children with.

Vaccinations duh

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A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Bushmaster's pretty low-budget they probably shoulda gone after Nike for providing him with the high-efficiency military walking apparatus that enabled him to jog around all day without getting worn out.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

goku im piss posted:

Bushmaster should build a memorial to the dead kids because the sales boom after was like Christmas. It's only fair.

Agreed but they should get to engrave testimony from the coroner, police, survivors etc. as to the awesome power and smooth jam-free action of the Bushmaster product line

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

RAGE HOLE posted:

You can cover a lot of running distance in 3 seconds. That's time enough to run for cover or out of a classroom. Count it out.

When Cho was out here shooting up a school full of actual adults, with long legs and working brains and plausibly a concept of the existence of reloading, he left a trail of 17 dang magazines and was still zapping people just fine

What makes internet tactical analyists think it's a good or smart idea to go into wierd theorycrafting about how if the crazy guy had been like limited to FMJ bullets with lower DPS some gym coach or cleaning lady would have totally counted the bullets then run up and done ken do on him deflecting the rounds with their forearms before anybody else got hurt, is this the liberal wiener equivalent of the guys who drone about how if they were there they totally would have owned the guy with their Desert Eagle thanks Obama

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Dec 16, 2014

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

As a combat expert who's seen The Transporter five times I

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

IMO real guns should rattle whenever you pull them out or point them like they do in movies, so that children getting school shooted can have awareness of exactly where the killer is at all times, and take advantage of the momentary cocking-noise delay before getting shot to execute a dive and shoulder roll behind a desk

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

1gnoirents posted:

btw I got a Ron Paul email from signing up for the Colt AR giveaway GBS thread . thanks GBS

Are you a part of the Ron Paul Revolution now?

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

AR15s should be outlawed cause they're ugly and boring and for ugly boring people not cause they've got the ultimate power, IMO it'd be real cool to shoot up a school with that pump action grenade launcher from Far Cry

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Alexzandvar posted:

Again, the criteria is "is it good for hunting?" and the AR-15 is not nearly as good as many good dedicated hunting rifles. My Uncle is a Game Warden and after Sandy Hook they had a plague of people trying to hunting with poo poo like AR-15's despite the fact it's retarded.

lol thanks for the hunting opinion from someone who literally doesn't hunt or know hunters guy

I wonder just how broken in the mind you have to be to do this kind of handwringing and then decide that killing defenseless animals for sport is the one inalienable gun-related right you're willing to defend to the exclusion of all else

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Dec 16, 2014

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

The AR is popular in the Western Hemisphere and NATO satellite states for the same reason the AK is popular in African shitholes: because there's a skrillion of them and they're cheap as dirt and you can't throw a rock without hitting someone who got training to use one on the government's dime. It's not a big shocker that the Zetas, who are literally Mexican ex-military, roll ARs over like a FAL or that shotgun from the Terminator or whatever the hell

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Blistex posted:

To anyone wondering what this is about. The ATF allowed people to make straw purchases at gun stores near the border, knowing that they would be used by the cartels. Their plan was as follows...

1. Record the serial numbers on a bunch of guns.
2. Let the cartels or their straw purchasers buy said guns.
3. Let them take the guns back to Mexico.
4. Use the serial numbers to track the guns to the cartels.
5. "Wait, how do we track these guns? GUYS! HOW DO WE TRACK THESE GUNS?
6. ?????????????????????????
7. Recover the guns after they have been used to murder people and have been discarded.

Note that 'let' here means 'compel gunshops to sell to them, even that one idiot who walked in ordering a straight-up pallet of guns on the Texas border that they kept calling the cops on'

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Alexzandvar posted:

A lot of technology gets improved through government subsidies and what not if there isn't a market force to drive research. Considering the varied excellent application smart guns might have it would probably be worth looking into making them less obtuse.

And I like these threads cause they are one of the few ways you can learning anything on SA.

The bulk of the NRA's opposition is due to immediate-term political factors, as a few states have legislation already in the tubes mandating smartgun safeties and microprinting the instant they become commercially available - not 'reliable', not 'cheap', just possible to mandate in a way that won't get immediately thrown out in court as a second amendment violation. Hence, there can be no smartguns on the market.

Beyond that, when you're adding a component to a machine designed to fail safe (make the machine not work), there is no level of quality short of "literally never malfunctions" that isn't making the whole less reliable. There is no cost reduction short of "free" that doesn't make the whole more expensive. So you've got to make the case that it's worth it for people to buy a more expensive, less reliable gun, and reliability is sort of centrally important in the gun market. The only people really enamored of sticking biometric readers in guns are the Brady bunch, who aren't inclined to make that case or do much more than screech about stuff that bothered them in 80s movies.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Alexzandvar posted:

The government can subsidize more than one thing at a time.


Yeah I don't think it's reasonable to make the only gun you can buy be a smart one while they technology isn't there yet.

Even absent the US's unique legal/political climate, no gun manufacturer anywhere in the world has produced or marketed smartguns in significant quantity, despite a couple of international manufacturers prototyping them at various points. Because nobody wants them, not even the cops in neurotically safety-concerned countries like the UK. They're a totally marginal gimmick, whose worldwide sales from all manufacturers number in the scores every year. People buy lots of safes.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

fanged wang posted:

guns are better than kids, imo

feed your children to your gun

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

FogHelmut posted:

"when i need to use a gun"


all these "bad guys" invading my suburbs

I used to joke about that but just last weekend in my chill suburban neighborhood I had a guy bust into my house and try to murder my roommate, and he only got off him and waited for the cops to show up cause I rolled up with a shotgun so welp

Just lucky the guy sucked at strangling cause I totally did not have a complete working gun in the house whne he came through the door

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Dec 16, 2014

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

I thought they trained yall to the hellthread

why didn't they

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

How does tezzor manage to consistently troll you people. Like, I can't get mad at him, he's just doing his low-effort gimmick, but yall is some abominably stupid motherfuckers.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Cannon_Fodder posted:

I'm A-Ok with pant-making GBS threads

a bold stance for GBS

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

The problem with America is too many handguns, and not enough handjobs. instead of planning your standoff against your neighbor have you ever thought of just reaching down his pants and giving him a jerk?

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

fanged wang posted:

one thing that really grinds my gears is all these kids getting shot with bullets constantly

nah it's very cool

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

One thing that I feel strongly about, is that it would be extremely sick if a dude took a flamethrower to his office building. Please sign my petition

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Moridin920 posted:

it's not that hard to make a bomb to kill a bunch of people if you're determined

there's always a way the point is why are people so unhinged and why can't we address that instead of trying to limit their access to weapons (which is futile anyway)?

Why'd the bomb thing go out of fashion anyway, like right through the 70s you were getting bomb dudes all the time then suddenly all the Meteskys turned into Kleibolds, what gives

It's a failure of the imagination if you ask me.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

FogHelmut posted:

If I had shady roommates like that I'd prob have a working shotgun tbh

Dude's alright he just like banging mean drunks' daughters, apparently

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Stex T posted:

is it wrong that I have more faith in this device now that I know that Americans DIDN'T build it?

no that's fair


Moridin920 posted:

I mean yeah, don't get me wrong, I don't think people should be allowed to have fully automatic weapons and poo poo there's not really much reason for that.

screw u

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Stex T posted:

I don't subscribe to Freudian psychology, but I do accept its conclusion that gun owners buy guns because they're phallic and they're all compensating for small penises

Freud was a product of his time and that biased his work, some of us have normal size penises but hunger for big black dong

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

well if I may take a break for a moment from posting my sincere and angry opinions in an ironic tone, frankly now fellas,

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

a creepy colon posted:

Yeah dude, other wise youd have to get the same exact weapon except it would have been made in yugoslavia, latvia or vietnam, holy crap lois but ya youre SOOOOOO lucky

lol you dumb poo poo

not if it's one of the shotguns

IDK why nobody (except molot I guess) makes saiga-12 knockoffs, they're hilarious and it's not like the real deal are works of skilled craftsmanship.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

I wanna sue Bushmaster cause they ruined a perfectly good nickname

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Mange Mite posted:

theres nothing stopping you from using it. theres a shitton of stuff called bushmaster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushmaster

yeah but now all the ladies just think I'm a mall ninja

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Triple A posted:

it's funny how many self-described socialists show that they are very classist towards rural poors

TBH I think that stopped being funny for most people around the holodomor

King Vidiot posted:

No but seriously there needs to be a law, applicable to anyone with the power to enforce it, that every American citizen have their basic needs, including proper counseling and mental healthcare, taken care of in full even if they're not above the poverty line.

People would stop murdering other people if they didn't feel trapped, scared and helpless.

the whole reason Lanza's a celebrity is cause spree shooters are comfortable suburban bougies killing comfortable suburban bougies, nobody cares about ghetto kids scragging each other and nobody's gonna make a law about it unless it's to shovel the lot of them off to prison forever so they don't have to look at em on the way to Starbucks

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Mange Mite posted:

i look forward to the next round of avatar swaps and kindly suggest to mods that they up the game with also nameswaps

train all 4 to their own forum down under Coupons to hash it out once and for all, last man standing has the Right Opinions

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Powercrazy posted:

This forum was called the thunder dome. It still exists, but I don't remember the forumid.

Thunderdome was curated and meant to be entertaining I'm thinking more an oubliette where they gradually revert to cannibalism

I mean yeah it won't happen for the same reason violently unfunny idiots don't just get banned, but proposing convoluted pointless non-compromises over dead issues is what a gunthread is all about

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Dec 17, 2014

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Mange Mite posted:

isnt this what hellthread is?

Hellthread regulars are free to migrate outside their shitpost reservation cf: AK and Tezzor.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Pauline Kael posted:

Yes, you can be an strident retard about gun control, and double down on stupid every time you've given a chance, I doubt anyone could stop you, but here in the real world, almost nobody stands to the left of you on this topic, so like the rest of your schtick, it's a fringe position held only by least relevant portion of the voting public. Literally, nobody agrees with you (except Ableist Kinkshamer? Congrats on that?) and even those inclined to see your point of view are embarrassed by you and wish you would shut up. Maybe it's time for you to try something different and less annoying like being one of those PETA people that screams about fur or something.

I don't really want to get involved with your attempt to totally own the catchphrase-pasting idiot with weak burns but please don't malign PETA, like their ideology or not they're witty and they brought us hot naked chicks

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fyr0zbaFyE

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Fool and the World posted:

Stating something as axiomatic doesn't suddenly make it so. PTSD is an actual thing you loving chode and it wouldn't happen if the military were a bunch of automatons as you so stupidly asserted you awful piece of poo poo

Machines break down from overuse all the time.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

You'll never see so many Confederate flags as you will around an army base and the venn diagram of ex-military and militia guys is a bullseye so in reality it's probably a tossup whether a significant number of them would go berserk and become the vanguard of the racial holy war given an opportunity or if they'd just talk a lot of dumb poo poo about revolutionating against those socialists what's ruining America as they butchered the actual popular uprising against the state, my guess is the latter and then the former

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

fanged wang posted:

tezzor it's plain that the world has moved on and that your particular brand of dour frowny faced trolling no longer amuses or captivates the gbs commentariat. it is time to pack it in, grandpa.

IDK man he seems to have totally captivated this thread by pasting out generic frothing about stupid rednecks

Almost like he's hitting a bit too close to home for some people

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A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

fanged wang posted:

tezzor it's plain that the world has moved on and that your particular brand of dour frowny faced trolling no longer amuses or captivates the gbs commentariat. it is time to pack it in, grandpa.

IDK man he seems to have totally captivated this thread by pasting out generic frothing about stupid rednecks

Almost like he's hitting a bit too close to home for some people

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