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abraham linksys posted:like they've definitely just sold Seth's entire character around "will always lose without security." He managed to beat Cena with security and lost to Dolph without He still comes off powerful while still being a fun chickenshit heel. As long as has the curb stomp as finisher, regular fans will think of him as a strong wrestler.
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Seth is at his best when he gets to play 'assassin' like in the Survivor Series match.
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waffle iron posted:He still comes off powerful while still being a fun chickenshit heel. As long as has the curb stomp as finisher, regular fans will think of him as a strong wrestler. Dexters Secret posted:Seth is at his best when he gets to play 'assassin' like in the Survivor Series match. Yeah, he has that Edge-like vibe of always being a threat and able to sneak wins and finishers out of nowhere despite choosing to cheat whenever possible
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Daniel Bryan posted:nah it's fine, Seth has talent and I don't think this was them giving up on him they clearly like seth a lot and its not like they have any better candidates for top heel when lesnar is not around
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Cardboard Box posted:they clearly like seth a lot and its not like they have any better candidates for top heel when lesnar is not around Yes but when business is down that's when they do things you wouldn't expect like Dolph beating Rollins clean. That's all I'm saying. Not thinking that's what this is but it wouldn't surprise me. Seth has been made to look pretty incompetent three days in a row.
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Daniel Bryan posted:Yes but when business is down that's when they do things you wouldn't expect like Dolph beating Rollins clean. That's all I'm saying. Not thinking that's what this is but it wouldn't surprise me. Seth has been made to look pretty incompetent three days in a row.  But yeah I get what you are saying
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YAY! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9XtV3Uj524
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Welp, looks like Bryan is 100% right: Reigns is a perfectly fine talker when you stop scripting his promos. If everything he said on TV was like this video that would solve a lot of problems.
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See that is a great promo. More of that please
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he actually came across like a human being there
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Delsaber posted:Welp, looks like Bryan is 100% right: Reigns is a perfectly fine talker when you stop scripting his promos. If everything he said on TV was like this video that would solve a lot of problems. There are lots of great actors who are given poo poo scripts and still make it work and give a good performance, I think the same situation applies here in general "This performer, on a scripted TV show, is real good - but only when he isn't following a script" Valeyard fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Dec 17, 2014 |
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Valeyard posted:There are lots of great actors who are given poo poo scripts and still make it work and give a good performance, I think the same situation applies here in general It really doesn't at all - the vast majority of the history of wrestling is based around performers who improvise and play off the feeling of the crowd on any particular night, and the best have always been those who have a natural feeling that comes across as a reflection of their personality (usually turned up to 11, as the saying goes). Pro-wrestling is closer to improvised theater than television or films (or scripted plays) and has always been better when treated that way - the moment matches get hammered down to be laid out move for move, the majority come across as bland and unnatural, and the same goes for promos and interviews. If they want their show to be like television, maybe they should hire some unionized actors 
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Some guys are improved by a having a script, others are completely hamstrung. I dare say that most of these guys all sound the same, because they're written by the same people.
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Blasmeister posted:Yeah, he has that Edge-like vibe of always being a threat and able to sneak wins and finishers out of nowhere despite choosing to cheat whenever possible This is a good point. Seth's whole gimmick is that he's an opportunistic shithead who also happens to be talented. He's good in the ring and people recognize that in promos, but he'll worm his way into a victory by any means necessary - why do things the hard way when you can just use other people to get what you want? I can totally imagine Seth having several brief title reigns like Edge, where he's recognized as a champion but each of his victories are the result of him being a total slimeball.
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sticklefifer posted:I can totally imagine Seth having several brief title reigns like Edge, where he's recognized as a champion but each of his victories are the result of him being a total slimeball. He needs a woman, who will it be?
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Valeyard posted:He needs a woman, who will it be? Paige.
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Valeyard posted:He needs a woman, who will it be? Becky Lynch, natch.
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Too bad Kaitlyn had to dye her hair and then quit. I wanted a two-tone hair power couple.
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Valeyard posted:He needs a woman, who will it be? Summer Rae. Her over the top antics are fantastic.
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Writer Cath posted:Summer Rae. Her over the top antics are fantastic. Aren't they together for-realsies anyway? Maybe it's only a matter of time before it's on TV.
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