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Isn't things what we call negotiating, ask for the moon and get something reasonable. You know the thing DnD has been dating Obama should have been doing with Republicans since day one, yet can't seem to see when another countries leader does it.
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KomradeX posted:Isn't things what we call negotiating, ask for the moon and get something reasonable. You know the thing DnD has been dating Obama should have been doing with Republicans since day one, yet can't seem to see when another countries leader does it. That is what I was thinking. It sounds like he knows its something he won't get, but it might get him something lesser...
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Jan 29, 2015 19:33
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Yeah this is just negotiating. I mean just the other day Fidel himself publicly stated his desire for normalization.
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Jan 29, 2015 20:00
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CommieGIR posted:That is what I was thinking. It sounds like he knows its something he won't get, but it might get him something lesser... I think it's just something to make giving back Gitmo more palatable. Or maybe some kind of domestic cover to cash those back rent checks from the State Department
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Jan 29, 2015 20:18
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KomradeX posted:I think it's just something to make giving back Gitmo more palatable. Or maybe some kind of domestic cover to cash those back rent checks from the State Department The U.S. leased Gitmo from Cuba for like $3,000 a year in 1903 and it is not indexed to inflation. Every single check since Castro came to power combined would be worth about $100k.
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Jan 29, 2015 21:26
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KomradeX posted:I think it's just something to make giving back Gitmo more palatable. Or maybe some kind of domestic cover to cash those back rent checks from the State Department Rent-A-Cop fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Jan 29, 2015 |
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Jan 29, 2015 21:30
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As an American, it's fascinating to watch people demonize Cuba for having the nerve to resent the presence of an American military base. Both because of the wild hypocrisy and because I can remember feeling the same way myself. Natural instinct when you grow up assuming American power is essentially Good. It's not even like we nurtured a Hong Kong there, for christ's sake, it's a military installation. How much resistance might be coming from the prospect of losing the convenient legal limbo of the detention center? Within the US political elite, anyway.
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Jan 30, 2015 00:09
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It's literally illegal under US law to spend a single dollar bringing a guantanamo detainee back to the United States (passed by Congress to prevent Obama from closing it) so we can't give it back until that's repealed or we manage to get every remaining prisoner taken by someone else. It has been a long time since anyone needed the base and we mostly just kept it because "why the hell would we give a military base to some communists?"
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Jan 30, 2015 00:41
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evilweasel posted:It's literally illegal under US law to spend a single dollar bringing a guantanamo detainee back to the United States (passed by Congress to prevent Obama from closing it) so we can't give it back until that's repealed or we manage to get every remaining prisoner taken by someone else. Why not kill two birds with one stone and give Guantanamo Bay back on the condition that Cuba accept all remaining prisoners?
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Jan 30, 2015 02:28
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I don't know if the Cubans would be more likely to shoot them or send them home.
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Jan 30, 2015 03:02
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PT6A posted:Why not kill two birds with one stone and give Guantanamo Bay back on the condition that Cuba accept all remaining prisoners? Nobody would take that deal. Cuba enjoys a good reputation around the world and that would be a great way to gently caress it up, no matter what they did with the prisoners it would piss somebody off.
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Jan 30, 2015 03:04
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SedanChair posted:Nobody would take that deal. Cuba enjoys a good reputation around the world and that would be a great way to gently caress it up, no matter what they did with the prisoners it would piss somebody off. Turning them into productive good honest citizens would be fine for Cuba. And if they wanted to leave, well, wet foot dry foot is just 90 miles away.
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Jan 30, 2015 03:26
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evilweasel posted:It's literally illegal under US law to spend a single dollar bringing a guantanamo detainee back to the United States (passed by Congress to prevent Obama from closing it) so we can't give it back until that's repealed or we manage to get every remaining prisoner taken by someone else.
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Jan 30, 2015 03:40
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I wonder how long it'll be before MLB does some barnstorming.
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Jan 30, 2015 03:53
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sullat posted:Turning them into productive good honest citizens would be fine for Cuba. And if they wanted to leave, well, wet foot dry foot is just 90 miles away. Hence why the deal would be unacceptable to the US.
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sullat posted:Turning them into productive good honest citizens would be fine for Cuba. And if they wanted to leave, well, wet foot dry foot is just 90 miles away. There are actually some prisoners the US wants to keep and would gladly keep on US soil if it weren't for Congress literally banning them from doing so.
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