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I just hope the game will be good, and have cool + interesting mechanics 
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Dec 17, 2014 23:41
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Powercrazy posted:I just hope the game will be good, and have cool + interesting mechanics It won't. Even removed of the edginess and ties to right-wing extremism, it looks like poo poo.
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Dec 17, 2014 23:47
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The CEO of Deconstructive Criticism said he did like the Polish Defence League's page, but he was only doing to get news stories. This, I'm sure, is perfectly harmless - much like following the BNP's mailing list for their excellent baking recipes, or following the Aryan Nation on Facebook for their excellent coverage of baseball matches. They may be a known hate-organization that goes on anti-semitic rallies, often with the 'roman salute' in full glory, but they also happen to be very keen journalists with bleeding edge coverage of the most important world issues. I mean, the mainstream media wouldn't DREAM of posting incisive commentary like this:  Mainly because it's loving mental and racist
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Dec 17, 2014 23:48
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Looks like zombie shooter and that game was alright.
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Dec 17, 2014 23:49
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Lol they have O'Brony in their name.
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Dec 17, 2014 23:49
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Ddraig posted:The CEO of Deconstructive Criticism said he did like the Polish Defence League's page, but he was only doing to get news stories. This, I'm sure, is perfectly harmless - much like following the BNP's mailing list for their excellent baking recipes, or following the Aryan Nation on Facebook for their excellent coverage of baseball matches. So do they hate muslims or jews or both I'm really confused here
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Dec 17, 2014 23:49
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Ddraig posted:The CEO of Deconstructive Criticism said he did like the Polish Defence League's page, but he was only doing to get news stories. This, I'm sure, is perfectly harmless - much like following the BNP's mailing list for their excellent baking recipes, or following the Aryan Nation on Facebook for their excellent coverage of baseball matches. So your proof is a facebook like? Ok.
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Dec 17, 2014 23:51
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Ddraig posted:The CEO of Deconstructive Criticism said he did like the Polish Defence League's page, but he was only doing to get news stories. This, I'm sure, is perfectly harmless - much like following the BNP's mailing list for their excellent baking recipes, or following the Aryan Nation on Facebook for their excellent coverage of baseball matches. You were gone for that long and that's the best you've got for the claim 'It was made by Neo-Nazis'? Did one of the devs write that comment and make that infographic? Is it that hard to accept you blew the gently caress up over virtually nothing or at best over misinformation? You bought these avatars, didn't you? Thank you, Ddraig. The Snark fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Dec 17, 2014 |
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Dec 17, 2014 23:51
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One of them makes really good schwarmas but runs planes into buildings and kills 130 kids in a school according to DnD and the other one makes fun games like the Dreidel game but also blows up kids and stuff also according to DnD so this is really important to know which or both they hate?
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Dec 17, 2014 23:51
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Sometimes you just need to defend Poland. And sometimes you need a league.
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Dec 17, 2014 23:52
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Ddraig posted:The CEO of Deconstructive Criticism said he did like the Polish Defence League's page, but he was only doing to get news stories. This, I'm sure, is perfectly harmless - much like following the BNP's mailing list for their excellent baking recipes, or following the Aryan Nation on Facebook for their excellent coverage of baseball matches. So how does this directly affect whoever is playing the game?
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Dec 17, 2014 23:52
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I think it's a safe bet that this game is going to really suck no matter which brown people with funny hats they hate.
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Dec 17, 2014 23:55
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These people have ties to the polish neo nazi scene, clearly demonstrated by this facebook like. Wake up, god drat it.
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Dec 17, 2014 23:57
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Eye of Widesauron posted:I think it's a safe bet that this game is going to really suck no matter which brown people with funny hats they hate. like, hm, im sure these dudes making something edgy just so they can pretend it's deep social commentary/metatrolling are really committed to delivering a tight and enjoyable gameplay experience
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Dec 17, 2014 23:57
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I think my least favorite thing about the game is the visual design, specifically the lack of colors beyond "black, white and red". Also it looks very repetitive to play.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:01
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Endorph posted:yeah the only thing dumber than the Reddit War going on itt is the fact that people are going 'but what if it's good?' Like if it was good mechanically and they just went balls out and said" yeah man you can murder the gently caress out of piles of people who can't fight back and we're gonna let you mod in whatever you want so if you want to enact whatever fucktarded death fantasy you want go for it" and enabled an open SDK with steam workshop support I could at least see it having a market beyond people who buy it and never play it or people who buy it to gift it as a joke ala Bad Rats. But no. It's gonna suck really bad and probably won't even have an open SDK so that people can go blow up "group with X skin tone wearing Y hat with Z sexual preferences" which while lovely would at least give it some sort of staying power. Nope. It's a flash in the pan. A sad sad little pan. It would also be kinda funny if they had an SDK and steam workshop so that we could see what kind of dumb poo poo people put up there but we're denied even that.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:02
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Pay 1.29 to unlock a crate that MAY include: Yamaka Turban Ridiculously Overgrown Eastern Orthodox Hat That hot dog stand hat from Red Dwarf's holy war with the cats bit
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Dec 18, 2014 00:03
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When I think of the good old fashioned ultraviolent shooters of my youth, I think of killing lots of people who can't fight back and just scream for mercy a lot. This looks less like a game and more like some sort of corpse-based drawing program.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:03
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it's gonna be REAL bad because I already designed this game in 4th grade
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Dec 18, 2014 00:04
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am0kgonzo posted:These people have ties to the polish neo nazi scene, clearly demonstrated by this facebook like. It's more than just the CEO. -Gameplay designer Jakub Stychno is a supporter of the fascistic Obóz Narodowo Radykalny, as well as the homophobic, nationalistic Młodzież Wszechpolska. -FX artist Marcin Kaźmierczak is also a supporter of Młodzież Wszechpolska, and of several anti-social justice, anti-gay Facebook pages. (Including a right-wing boycott of a Polish boxer who supports gay rights.) -Level designer and lighting artist Cyprian Listowski has another job as a tattoo designer; two of his original designs include symbolism commonly associated with right-wing groups. One depicts a sonnenrad, a sunwheel symbol popular among Neo-Nazis. The other incorporates a słoneczko (an Early Slavic variation on the swastika appropriated by nationalists) and an “othala rune”, framed within a larger “life rune”. If it was just the CEO it could be an easy mistake, but all 4 guys have some (at least online) association with hate groups. I'm not going to stretch that to claim they're Neo Nazis, but they're definitely fans of groups I wouldn't want to support in any way.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:04
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I'm sure he was truly looking for world news stories, which is why he decided to associate himself with a group that has been patrolling Polish nightclubs to stop Muslim men talking to Women. http://www.thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/158678,AntiIslamic-group-patrols-clubs-to-defend-Polish-women quote:“In the space of one evening, in hundreds of places across the country, incidents occur involving the seduction of our female compatriots,” the league claims. “This is a fight for the future of our country and our women,” the PLO claims. They do have some innovation, I guess. They managed to condense the 14 words into 13. That's something. If I might make a suggestion to the CEO in the future, maybe he could be better informed about world events by following a non-Racist organization. The BBC for example, usually have excellent coverage.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:06
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Młodzież would be an awesome name for a bad guy in an rpg
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Dec 18, 2014 00:06
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I can't stop laughing at the idea of radical muslims trolling polish nightclubs looking for some sweet sweet rear end.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:08
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Eye of Widesauron posted:So do they hate muslims or jews or both I'm really confused here Yes
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Dec 18, 2014 00:09
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Sounds like those guys are scumbags, glad they haven't made anything I've enjoyed. By the way, if you have ever enjoyed any entertainment, I suggest you don't look up any of the people involved in making it. Same basic principle behind not watching those videos about where your food comes from.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:09
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Derka derka derka Sherpa Sherpa (Dude check out the bap on that) Sherpa sherpa jihad (I know right) Polish racist game dev: gently caress you guys *blapblapblapblapblap* E: [insert polish joke about pointing gun wrong way I'm not from Europe but I hear polish jokes are/were a thing there so I aim to please]
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Dec 18, 2014 00:10
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most people are probably a little lovely, but most people are probably not neonazis
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Dec 18, 2014 00:11
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Endorph posted:most people are probably a little lovely, but most people are probably not neonazis
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Dec 18, 2014 00:11
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CrashCat posted:Sounds like those guys are scumbags, glad they haven't made anything I've enjoyed. By the way, if you have ever enjoyed any entertainment, I suggest you don't look up any of the people involved in making it. Same basic principle behind not watching those videos about where your food comes from. GAAAA-ROOVY
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Dec 18, 2014 00:11
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Mokinokaro posted:It's more than just the CEO. See Ddraig, this is a good post. Thanks.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:11
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Mokinokaro posted:It's more than just the CEO. (Citation Needed) If there were proof I am sure Ddraig would have happily dropped that truth bomb already. That one of them once did a tattoo with squiffy symbolism is almost as weak as- Ddraig posted:I'm sure he was truly looking for world news stories, which is why he decided to associate himself with a group that has been patrolling Polish nightclubs to stop Muslim men talking to Women. - claiming one of them once liking something on an extremist news facebook page or something (and since unliking as I understand it even) is comparable to being a Hitler Fanboy. Also, Ddraig, you can point at what tangentially related third party said all day, it doesn't mean the person you are trying to link it to is a supporter of it. Have you ever liked anything someone you didn't know like your own kin said? What if they also said things you didn't know they said that were bad?
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Dec 18, 2014 00:14
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am0kgonzo posted:See Ddraig, this is a good post. I'd assume you'd want something that hasn't been posted on Tumblr since that's usually not actually considered valid by most people. To each their own, I guess. Another fun fact about the National Radical Camp, which these people are associated with, is that they are also involved with anti-Jewish marches and the 'roman salute' http://wiadomosci.dziennik.pl/wydarzenia/artykuly/77460,faszystowskie-gesty-w-myslenicach.html
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Dec 18, 2014 00:15
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The dude unliked the NAMBLA page so gently caress it, he's good.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:15
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Eye of Widesauron posted:The dude unliked the NAMBLA page so gently caress it, he's good. Göring unfollowed hitler on tumblr
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Dec 18, 2014 00:18
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Eye of Widesauron posted:The dude unliked the NAMBLA page so gently caress it, he's good. Tell you what, how about someone does an absurd amount of creepy internet detectivery on you until they find something you've liked said by someone who also said things elsewhere that you might not have liked. Now lets have those people announce to everyone they know how you are X. Keep in mind that now you are guilty of X, so anything you say in your defense is inadmissible because you're a filthy X'ist.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:19
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Endorph posted:Göring unfollowed hitler on tumblr Kim Jong Un pushes his uncle off his Top 8 his uncle is later found dead in a ditch in the DMZ
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Dec 18, 2014 00:19
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Hitler wanted to be an artist, and games are art.
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Dec 18, 2014 00:20
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That dude who threatened to kill Gabe also posted a retraction of that sentiment. As far as I'm aware he wasn't actually thinking of killing Gabe, it was just a very unfortunate slip up where he accidentally typed words to that effect, much like you might make the perfectly innocent mistake of liking a far-right fascist organization while looking for news.
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Widestancer, you make Games do the worst best things.
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