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AddMEonFacebook posted:I'm pretty sure they have enough to destroy the entire world. They used to, but nowadays I wouldn't be surprised if 2/3's of their (now downsized) nuclear arsenal worked. redshirt posted:What's the state of Poland's military? How about the other former Bloc countries? They get literally all of their equipment from the United States. Poland's military is basically just the United States Military of Poland.
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TEAYCHES posted:do you think that global energy markets work like bernie madoff or something Please continue to enlighten me agent man. Why should normal people have to suffer over the esoteric shifts in supply base?
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Dec 18, 2014 04:28
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Alexzandvar posted:They get literally all of their equipment from the United States. Poland's military is basically just the United States Military of Poland.
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Dec 18, 2014 04:29
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hey you yankee fucks grow a pair and bomb moscow from space already
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this is a good argument keep it up
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redshirt posted:So, you think the North American countries will scale back their new found and productive oil production in the face of cheap prices? And resume imports from the Middle East? if you believe that we are going to bail out canadian tar sands and fracking, thats a political fight i would love to see. in reality opec made a stupid decision and it will mostly gently caress venezuela, russia, and mookface's kids' college savings AddMEonFacebook posted:Please continue to enlighten me agent man. Why should normal people have to suffer over the esoteric shifts in supply base? they shouldnt have to, im describing to you how energy markets work. im a socialist, i think this is hosed up as all hell
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numberoneposter posted:hey you yankee fucks grow a pair and bomb moscow from space already well we have the technology to affect the path of asteroids, so we could in theory drop one on moscow and deny it.
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we come one step closer to Robot Jox every day. i thought it was over when the wall fell and lost heart.
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the stupidest assumption ive seen so far in this thread is that "america wont let consumers suffer, america wont let production fall, we wont import it from the middle east" when thats exactly *exactly* what happened in the past. you have to be some retard neanderthal to think its unprecedented for the energy market here to get devastated and bottom out the housing market will never collapse again either. dont worry about it!! we wouldnt let something like that happen
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Dec 18, 2014 04:33
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TEAYCHES posted:they shouldnt have to, im describing to you how energy markets work. im a socialist, i think this is hosed up as all hell It's really hosed up.
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Dec 18, 2014 04:34
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TEAYCHES posted:the housing market will never collapse again either. dont worry about it!! we wouldnt let something like that happen We won't let the insurance companies go under, don't worry. If disaster strikes, we'll be there 
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Dec 18, 2014 04:36
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TEAYCHES posted:the stupidest assumption ive seen so far in this thread is that "america wont let consumers suffer, america wont let production fall, we wont import it from the middle east" when thats exactly *exactly* what happened in the past. you have to be some retard neanderthal to think its unprecedented for the energy market here to get devastated and bottom out lol. I think your naive assumption that pure economic reasons motivate the economy is funny. America won't ever give up the means of oil production until all the oil is gone. Regardless of the price unless it's truly ridiculous in some imagined future.
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one day im going to invest all my money into a porsche
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Alexzandvar posted:I'm 100% serious that if anyone thinks the russian army is remotely capable of beating a united eastern europe they are retarded. Hrm yes this United Eastern Europe is sure a real thing that will prevent Russia from gobbling up whatever non-NATO provinces it wants to 'protect' along its border this month.
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redshirt posted:lol. I think your naive assumption that pure economic reasons motivate the economy is funny. this literally happened in the 70s and 80s you dumb old retard, you even lived through it and you forgot lmao
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TEAYCHES posted:this literally happened in the 70s and 80s you dumb old retard, you even lived through it and you forgot lmao Different world today than in the 1970's.
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Dec 18, 2014 04:37
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it's true, weed is a lot stronger now
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redshirt posted:Different world today than in the 1970's. please explain how hundreds of energy companies are going to start producing the same while hemorrhaging money. did obama nationalize the energy market when i wasnt paying attention
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TEAYCHES posted:please explain how hundreds of energy companies are going to start producing the same while hemorrhaging money. did obama nationalize the energy market when i wasnt paying attention Direct subsidies from the US of A. Also, who's hemorrhaging money if you've already built the infrastructure and are simply making less profit?
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redshirt posted:Direct subsidies from the US of A. you are a dumbass retard motherfucker
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TEAYCHES posted:you are a dumbass retard motherfucker Lol. You're naivete is endearing.
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David Copperfield posted:Hrm yes this United Eastern Europe is sure a real thing that will prevent Russia from gobbling up whatever non-NATO provinces it wants to 'protect' along its border this month. Other than Ukraine there is no were russia can go with out stepping into a NATO protected country, and Poland already promised to send in their military if Russia officially invaded Ukraine or any other Eastern European state other than Belorussia.
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redshirt posted:Lol. You're naivete is endearing. no, you are actually just retarded in this case
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TEAYCHES posted:no, you are actually just retarded in this case I'm going to ask a direct question, please answer it: Do you think current US/Canada oil production will be curtailed in the next 5 years due to lower prices per barrel?
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Dec 18, 2014 04:46
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i for one welcome our new (old) economic overlords
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"US energy security" was quite a buzzword
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ITT: Teaches and Redshirt Bleeding russia of money seems like both a grand and terrible idea.
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redshirt posted:I'm going to ask a direct question, please answer it: if oil prices remain low, a lot of us and canadian energy companies will fail. this has happened before. if you want to push for a massive bailout if that occurs id love to see how that goes. honestly i dont believe you understand how the global energy market works, i dont think you have any personal experience with the oil industry, and i dont think youve even read about it
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My reading is that the western sanctions are doing poo poo in the scale of what's happening.
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TEAYCHES posted:if oil prices remain low, a lot of us and canadian energy companies will fail. this has happened before. if you want to push for a massive bailout if that occurs id love to see how that goes. honestly i dont believe you understand how the global energy market works, i dont think you have any personal experience with the oil industry, and i dont think youve even read about it LOL you didn't answer the question. So, do you have personal experience with the oil industry, and read about it?
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redshirt posted:LOL you didn't answer the question. my family is heavily involved in the oil business, lived through the 80s bust, and i read political economy for fun
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and im gay and texan you loving dumbass
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Every fracking related stock on the NYSE has taken a tremendous beating since September..well before this OPEC fiasco happened... not so good. not sure if that proves anyones point in this thread though. https://www.google.com/finance?q=frak&ei=-U6SVP3jJcTKkgXErYGwCw
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TEAYCHES posted:my family is heavily involved in the oil business, lived through the 80s bust, and i read political economy for fun Still haven't answered a simple and direct topical question.
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a posting ghost posted:Every fracking related stock on the NYSE has taken a tremendous beating since September..well before this OPEC fiasco happened... not so good. not sure if that proves anyones point in this thread though. I don't doubt it. This will be an age of consolation, with bigger/bolder companies consuming other companies and/or their employees.
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TEAYCHES posted:my family is heavily involved in the oil business, lived through the 80s bust, and i read political economy for fun you live in the basement of your parents who work for a 10 minute oil change place and you read new yorker cartoons and laugh at all the wrong things
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i directly answered your question. there isnt a yes or no answer to it because we dont know what energy prices will be in 5 years. if they are high, production will go up, if they remain low, a lot of people will go out of business. if you think there is going to be a bailout over that, you are dumb as all gently caress
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Noblesse Obliged posted:you live in the basement of your parents who work for a 10 minute oil change place and you read new yorker cartoons and laugh at all the wrong things nah i work in IT which is almost as bad
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TEAYCHES posted:nah i work in IT which is almost as bad i'll have you know that i run barter town
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Alexzandvar posted:Other than Ukraine there is no were russia can go with out stepping into a NATO protected country, and Poland already promised to send in their military if Russia officially invaded Ukraine or any other Eastern European state other than Belorussia. lmao you know jack poo poo    edit: none of the NATO-Russia border states are willing to fire a first shot at Russia, so they let themselves get trolled by planes "accidentally" flying in their airspace or subs accidentally in their waters, plus a few strategic hackings of infrastructure David Copperfield fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Dec 18, 2014 |
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