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Uncle Wemus posted:the stuff that people on tumblr and gawker do isn't feminism shut up this thread is about letters that look like other things now
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Uncle Wemus posted:the stuff that people on tumblr and gawker do isn't feminism
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Dec 20, 2014 08:18
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:shut up this thread is about letters that look like other things now 
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Dec 20, 2014 08:21
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:shut up this thread is about letters that look like other things now Al Cowens posted:I like capital sigma Σ a lot. It's just really bold and something about seeing it in a text gives it an aesthetic of "You're doing real big boy math now" which isn't actually the case at all but whatever I like the way it looks. It looks like a teutonic capital E It just reminds me of this game:  That and complex summation algorithms from my final senior project in college.
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Dec 20, 2014 08:23
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Dec 20, 2014 08:23
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I absolutely love schooling other feminists about how the patriarchy isn't a thing an the oppression they're feeling is actually better described through the ideological framework of class struggle. I never even read Marx. It owns.
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Dec 20, 2014 08:25
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Al Cowens posted:I like capital sigma Σ a lot. It's just really bold and something about seeing it in a text gives it an aesthetic of "You're doing real big boy math now" which isn't actually the case at all but whatever I like the way it looks. It looks like a teutonic capital E I'm fond of Ϝ myself. No, not F, Ϝ.
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Dec 20, 2014 08:26
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So did Tim Buckley train under this guy or what?
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Dec 20, 2014 08:27
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Saalkin posted:€ £ ¥ ¢ Tsinava posted:I absolutely love schooling other feminists about how the patriarchy isn't a thing an the oppression they're feeling is actually better described through the ideological framework of class struggle.
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Dec 20, 2014 08:28
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I'm no expert but I don't think the point is that a rich woman is worse off than a poor man, but that a rich woman would be worse off than an equally rich man/a poor woman would be worse off than an equally poor man. Like if you could snap a finger and fix race and class issues overnight there would still be statistically observable difference in how men and women are treated.
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Dec 20, 2014 08:37
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ArbitraryC posted:I'm no expert but I don't think the point is that a rich woman is worse off than a poor man, but that a rich woman would be worse off than an equally rich man/a poor woman would be worse off than an equally poor man. Like if you could snap a finger and fix race and class issues overnight there would still be statistically observable difference in how men and women are treated and it's specifically that kind of discrimination that feminism is meant to target.
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Dec 20, 2014 08:42
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They're worried because they're running late and didn't finish the reading and half-assed the busywork
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Dec 20, 2014 09:06
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Idk
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Dec 20, 2014 09:58
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Stormageddon posted:Almost like being on the constant receiving end of death and rape threats make some people bitter. Good thing they say mean things though else we dudes might have to stop being lovely diaper babies about things involving women lol wtf
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Dec 20, 2014 11:37
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because they are still angry about that one time a women's rights advocate from the middle east called them spoiled white women.
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Dec 20, 2014 11:51
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opus111 posted:lol wtf imagine being that person irl and describing things they dont like as "lovely diaper babies"
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Dec 20, 2014 11:51
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I clicked on some lovely youtube video in this thread and now my suggested channels are full of blowjob-lipped betas in droning British accents talking about the devil Anita Sarkeezy. Go gently caress yourselves.
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Dec 20, 2014 11:52
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In all honesty none of us are really sure whats going on or why we are here so the least we can all do is to stop blaming each other so much (and dont be so hard on yourself either). So much is noise, and people trying to get one over on each other. It doesn't have to be that way if you don't want it to, I say. Level with someone, and they will level back. It's hard to do, but that's where reconciliation happens.
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Dec 20, 2014 11:57
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that never happens IME, if you try to 'get real' with people you come off as a ripe human being, the best thing to do is brain them from behind with something heavy like a chair leg, "communication without misunderstanding" haha
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Dec 20, 2014 11:59
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It's true My gay degree is in peace and conflict studies and i wrote my thesis on how reconciliation is largely unattainable in almost all conflict situations around the world, unless one side wins or the goals shift somehow. I also said other stuff but i forget it. The same thing is largely true for individuals as well. Battle lines rarely change too much, because the conflicts are structural, not "procedural", there is no give and take when you require the whole shebang from the start. Basically you can't treat others like equals when you want something from them imo, somethins gotta give. I believe both posts of mine
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Dec 20, 2014 12:09
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Harime Nui posted:that never happens IME, if you try to 'get real' with people you come off as a ripe human being, the best thing to do is brain them from behind with something heavy like a chair leg, "communication without misunderstanding" haha This is a really hosed up thing to say, I'm sry ppl sometimes I speak w/out thinking
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Dec 20, 2014 12:16
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The one thing I learned from my course on transnational feminism is that most of feminism outside the USA is about them trying to distance themselves from American fmnsm.
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Dec 20, 2014 12:16
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Harime Nui posted:This is a really hosed up thing to say, I'm sry ppl sometimes I speak w/out thinking I agree though, you can't actually level with someone or an organization if you've still got cards in your hand to play. And most of the time, if not all the time, "open dialogue" is just a way to have all the appearances of levelling while still keeping the most important things in reserve, because there are still things at stake. It's a big charade basically, no matter where it takes place. You can have forums and dialogues and heart to hearts, but don't pretend they will be honest and transparent, everyones got cards to play and cards to hold. All the dumb poo poo I "studied" missed that part imo. People in general like my honesty I think, but they don't realize it's a destructive honesty, it's for me. edit The other part is the introspection, I held my cards close until I saw slightly more clearly why I felt what I felt and thought what I thought. If I want something, I play cards and I hold cards like everyone else. You can't be totally upfront *and* get what you want, I know that all too well. Just thought I'd say somethin about it, this feminist business uses honesty and the wish for it as a weapon just like everyone else. steinrokkan posted:The one thing I learned from my course on transnational feminism is that most of feminism outside the USA is about them trying to distance themselves from American fmnsm. I believe it. the worst thing is fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Dec 20, 2014 |
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Dec 20, 2014 12:29
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I keep hoping someone will post a really thorough and destructive critique of my posting someday, just like really add up all the things I've said and take me apart piece and by piece and  woops boner
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Dec 20, 2014 12:32
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Harime Nui posted:I keep hoping someone will post a really thorough and destructive critique of my posting someday, just like really add up all the things I've said and take me apart piece and by piece and You have to make an entire thread of people mad at you, then they start to. Goon critique is the worst though..more indignancy than content most of the time. Edit but people are more likely to say what they really think when theyre mad in general..doesnt have to be fishing for critique. Sometimes when youve heard all the same bullshit over and over, you want someone to say something different for a change. Well i do. Its not a quality of a "people person" let me tell you the worst thing is fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Dec 20, 2014 |
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Dec 20, 2014 12:41
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a posting ghost posted:My gay degree is in peace and conflict studies wow, fella
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Dec 20, 2014 12:43
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Having never come into contact with feminism, I can safely say this whole American feminism thing is coo-coo
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Dec 20, 2014 12:51
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Uncle Wemus posted:the stuff that people on tumblr and gawker do isn't feminism also anything on jezebel or the guardian or in any academic setting, it's literally just me and my opinions about people at work who are jerks i guess the important takeaway here is that i as a feminist am not required to acknowledge or explain the vast majority of published feminism; now let me explain why all men are directly responsible for rape
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Dec 20, 2014 13:06
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The don't want to talk about CLASS because then someone would take them to SCHOOL ahahah has anyone said this one yet? if not yr welcom.
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Dec 20, 2014 13:14
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Al Cowens posted:I like capital sigma Σ a lot. It's just really bold and something about seeing it in a text gives it an aesthetic of "You're doing real big boy math now" which isn't actually the case at all but whatever I like the way it looks. It looks like a teutonic capital E This is actually a pretty fun book and a great foundation for any of the mathematics you'll ever run into programming. That is my opinion on Concrete Mathematics by Donald Knuth.
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Dec 20, 2014 13:30
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Hate Fibration posted:This is actually a pretty fun book and a great foundation for any of the mathematics you'll ever run into programming. Is that the same as Discrete Mathematics? I have a sneaking suspicion. Stormageddon posted:Almost like being on the constant receiving end of death and rape threats make some people bitter. Good thing they say mean things though else we dudes might have to stop being lovely diaper babies about things involving women It's almost as if constantly being told one is a bag of dicks for one's race, gender, and assumed socioeconomic status makes some people bitter. really makes u think
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Dec 22, 2014 09:20
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Bit of a divergence from the topic, but my mate that served 5 years as a sniper in the army with a deployment to afghan linked this recently, written by a female http://www.westernjournalism.com/the-problems-of-women-in-combat-from-a-female-combat-vet/ I found it really interesting, and if I was there, probably true. Thankfully I have a desk job where I just post to SA and look at porn. Sorry to be serious feminists. To be on topic imagine we are talking about, idk, ranger class or sniper class.
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Dec 22, 2014 09:25
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can't people think women have it rougher than men on average but also think that capitalism and class structures are hosed up
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Dec 22, 2014 09:49
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When preparing for battle, the last thing on your mind should be sex; but you put men and women in close quarters together, and human nature is what it is (this is also why the repeal of DADT is so damaging).
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Dec 22, 2014 10:01
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Also women are abandoning their precious children to achieve glory in combat (and I guess the men are too but they aren't really proper parents so they don't count)
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Dec 22, 2014 14:21
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also for their precious careers so that's nothing new.
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Dec 22, 2014 14:22
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:You're right, it's clearly a Z with a line through it What is nui fighting for?
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Dec 22, 2014 14:54
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Uncle Wemus posted:the stuff that people on tumblr and gawker do isn't feminism Uh yeah no it is which is why like 90% of feminism is dumb trash sorry dude.
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Dec 22, 2014 15:00
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people who stick up for women are the worst.
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Tsinava posted:people who stick up for women are the worst. m'lady *tips feminism*
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