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Kristofenpheiffer
Sep 12, 2004
The Hemogoblin
This is a fantastic idea. I powered through the series over a couple months, and in the end I wish I'd spaced them out. Every episode is so dense and full of symbolism that they really deserve to be contemplated and discussed on an episode by episode basis. The show is known for popularizing the serialized format for television, but I was always amazed by how self-contained each episode feels.

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Kristofenpheiffer
Sep 12, 2004
The Hemogoblin
My favorite part was right at the beginning of Tony's session with Melfie, she's giving him those ground rules and she says she's "technically" supposed to go to the cops if he tells her about his crimes with a tiny smile on her face that almost implied a wink. Like she subtly suggested she might not go to the cops even if he did cross that line.

Sophia posted:

+ No way you could run over a guy and beat the poo poo out of him without 100 of those watching people pulling out their phones. He'd be on YouTube so fast.

Season 1 premiered in '99. Youtube didn't exist until 2005. I don't think anyone had camera phones for several more years either. It's a bit unbelievable that it still wouldn't get traced back to him by the license plate or whatever, but that would just go back to Christopher, and who knows if the car was even registered to him.

As for the violence level, that's part of the reality of it. To not make us see the mess of blood or not hear his dying gasp, and just skipping to the lighthearted cleanup would be too easy for the viewers. It's supposed to bother you.

Kristofenpheiffer fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Jan 11, 2015

Kristofenpheiffer
Sep 12, 2004
The Hemogoblin

Jerusalem posted:

The Rodney King thing happened in 1991 and was all over the news worldwide. Stuff like youtube today means everything is being filmed and uploaded all the time, but even back in the 90s pulling something like Tony did with the car was taking a massive risk - he just needed one guy with a camera (people used to walk around with those!) or a video camera to film him and he'd be in jail.

Even though the first episode explicitly has Tony talk about the glory days of the Mafia being behind them, it still seemed to want to incorporate some of the stylistic imagery of stuff like Goodfellas and Casino where guys were able to just put a savage beating on somebody in the street with impunity.

I'm not saying it wasn't stupid or risky, just that it's not unbelievable. Any witnesses could easily be too terrified to pin it on Tony, and if someone was standing there filming, Chris or Tony likely would have noticed and beaten the poo poo out of them. Plus Tony was out to prove something. He said the guy was telling people he was soft. He had to make an example of him, and what's more effective than a brutal, public assault that nobody can do anything about without putting themselves in danger.

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