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How long will it take to capture Baghdad? 2 days Will Saddam be killed? Yes Total Iraqi civillian casualties: 500 dead Total military casualties Iraq: 3000 dead Total military casualties U.S.: 15 dead Will the Iraqi army regulars hold the lines? No Will the Republican Guard fight to the end? No Will chem/bio weapons be used on invading troops?: Yes Will Saddam launch attacks on the Kurds? Yes Will Saddam launch attacks on Israel? No -If yes; will Isreal retaliate harshly? Yes Will Saddam sacrifice Baghdad (gas/nuke it)? No Will the Kurds make a grab for independence? Yes Will Iran do anything silly like try for land? Yes Will Saddam burn the oil fields? Yes How long will the US be occupying Iraq? ~15 years Will the Iraq war catalyze increased terrorism in America?No In the long run, will this war be good or bad for the world? Good We have to look at what those civilian casualties are- just because they're civilian doesn't make them innocent! Lets take a look at a few possibilities: 1) A civilian walking down the street to market gets killed by a cruise missile fired at the market. 2) A civilian asleep in their house is killed when their house is targetting by a smart bomb and blown up. OK, these two are regrettable innocents being killed- but since the US doesn't make a habit of targetting markets or houses, they're very small in number! 3) A civilian working at a chemical weapon factory gets killed when the chemical weapon plant is bombed. 4) A civilian security guard at a weapons depot is killed when the weapons explode. 5) A civilian contractor repairing a tank is killed by a MOAB dropped on the unit. 6) A civilian engineer is killed when the military command center he works at is destroyed. 7) A civilian delivering snackiecakes to the baghdad bunker vending machines eats a 5,000lb bunker buster. etc, etc. The list goes on. My point is that there are a lot of civilians directly supporting the military that aren't exactly "innocent" and would be mire rightly counted among the military casualties than civilian. I'm a civilian and work for the US military, but I acknowledge I'm also a valid military target because of what I do. And I think the vast majority of civilian casualties in this campaign will not be innocent.
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Dec 22, 2014 18:54
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to bring freedom to the iraqi people
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Dec 22, 2014 18:57
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The question rarely asked: What would Iraq be like if America did not invade? The answer may surprise you. It'd be Syria, except worse. Iran wants Iraq for a pathway to the sea. This cannot be allowed at any cost. We invaded Iraq to prevent Iran from acquiring a pathway to the Med.
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Dec 22, 2014 19:44
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RonMexicosPitbull posted:And supposed to have been destroyed but werent, hence the inspecter drama. Yet we found 5000 various sized warheads and missilies capable of carrying them some of which were found and used by insurgents on us as ieds. Which we kept hush hush at the time. But its a new age y'all should be better informed it's very life-affirming to be reminded that belligerent racists are misinformed and stupid
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Dec 22, 2014 19:47
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one of these days ill have to try and actually say something racist. you people will be at a loss at what to call me then. pedo i suppose
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Dec 22, 2014 19:47
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My Imaginary GF posted:The question rarely asked: What would Iraq be like if America did not invade? cool story. where exactly does iraq meet up with the med?
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Dec 22, 2014 19:48
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RonMexicosPitbull posted:one of these days ill have to try and actually say something racist. you people will be at a loss at what to call me then. pedo i suppose we'll always have "rear end in a top hat idiot"
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Dec 22, 2014 19:50
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wait. your hypothetical solution to people calling you racist is to say something racist, because then we won't be able to call you that. incredible
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Dec 22, 2014 19:51
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RaySmuckles posted:cool story. where exactly does iraq meet up with the med? ISIS.
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Dec 22, 2014 20:07
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Tezzor posted:wait. your hypothetical solution to people calling you racist is to say something racist, because then we won't be able to call you that. incredible wtf are you even talking about Tezzor
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Dec 22, 2014 20:10
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My Imaginary GF posted:ISIS. wait, so let me get this straight. America doesn't invade and the region still destabilizes into exactly the same factious groups as right now? what about saddam and his incredibly stable reign and massive military? you know they fought against iran, a real country with a real military, for like a decade and neither side won. yet, somehow ISIS still forms, invades iraq, and doesn't a) get squashed by a perfect coalition still eager to combat terrorism b) get gassed into oblivion by saddam c) run into the same sectarian forces that rushed to iraq to protect if from us? that's some scary poo poo. RaySmuckles fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Dec 22, 2014 |
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Dec 22, 2014 20:28
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We invaded iraq so ISIS could eventually post gross youtubes.
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Dec 22, 2014 20:28
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a cool thing that came out of the torture report is that we have specific and documented evidence that the war in iraq was predicated at least partially on faulty evidence obtained by torture
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Dec 22, 2014 20:31
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We have to act now or the smoking gun will be a mushroom clouhahahahaha
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Dec 22, 2014 20:35
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we got signal
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Dec 22, 2014 20:58
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Tezzor posted:a cool thing that came out of the torture report is that we have specific and documented evidence that the war in iraq was predicated at least partially on faulty evidence obtained by torture what people missed too is that it wasn't just faulty evidence, they coerced the subjects into admitting the evidence that framed Iraq.
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Dec 22, 2014 21:01
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Do we even get any oil from Iraq now or does it all go to China?
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Dec 22, 2014 21:02
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Tezzor posted:a cool thing that came out of the torture report is that we have specific and documented evidence that the war in iraq was predicated at least partially on faulty evidence obtained by torture Yes, Ahmed Chalabi was a tortured man full of lies and broken dreams
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Dec 22, 2014 21:09
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i cant hate on the kind of hustle that chalabi demonstrated
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Dec 22, 2014 21:09
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we must act now or the smoking gun will be a mushroomhead concert
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Dec 22, 2014 21:32
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paranoid randroid posted:i cant hate on the kind of hustle that chalabi demonstrated His entire life has been spent hustling the us government in one way or another..which amounts mostly to whispering "Kurds.." In various white house staffers ears until they give him money
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Dec 22, 2014 21:33
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You want another yogurt chalabi, goddamn get it yourself the breakroom fridge is full of them
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Dec 22, 2014 21:34
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a posting ghost posted:Yes, Ahmed Chalabi was a tortured man full of lies and broken dreams 
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Dec 22, 2014 21:35
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Got dat wmd
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Dec 22, 2014 21:44
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who said something about oil? bitch, you cooking?
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Dec 22, 2014 21:56
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ahmed chalabi kramers into the room and starts rooting through the presidents DVD collection
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Dec 22, 2014 22:00
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Grody posted:halliburton. CLOSE THREAD Really the only reason the war happened was Dick going around showing evidence of chemical weapons that everyone involved knew were bullshit, unreliable or even made up reports. Though it pretty much was "America's Iraq War II, brought to you by Halliburton." I've heard the fuckers were into so many aspects they were charging $4 for a plastic fork to the US.
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Dec 22, 2014 22:36
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Halliburton is now based out of Dubai lol.
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Dec 22, 2014 22:46
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Because it was legal for us to do so.
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Dec 22, 2014 23:01
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Blazing Ownager posted:Really the only reason the war happened was Dick going around showing evidence of chemical weapons that everyone involved knew were bullshit, unreliable or even made up reports. Kellogg Brown & Root should be burned to the ground and their top tier executives shot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KBR_%28company%29#Political_connections_and_corruption Kempo Yellow Belt fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Dec 22, 2014 |
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Dec 22, 2014 23:05
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Whiskey Sours posted:America invaded Iraq so that Iran wouldn't have to. George W Bush is a puppet of the Ayatollah. Did not know that part, got a source?
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Dec 22, 2014 23:10
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Mnoba posted:Because it was legal for us to do so. "Is that legal?" "I will make it legal."
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Dec 22, 2014 23:12
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I was wondering whether I could pass off a mistruth. Many people believed me!
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Dec 22, 2014 23:15
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Mr. Pumroy posted:idk lol me either
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Dec 22, 2014 23:45
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redshirt posted:"Is that legal?" Its not illegal when the President orders it
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Dec 23, 2014 01:03
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Unhinged Vulcan posted:Kellogg Brown & Root should be burned to the ground and their top tier executives shot. thank you for reminding me of the hadouken shower debacle, didn't know they were subsequently awarded a $35 million contract for electrical work under obama. lmao.
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Dec 23, 2014 02:49
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anyone know how I can get in on some of this sweet MIC action? like yeah give me a couple mil and I'll totally tell you how bad our buff and awesome soldiers are going to beat the brown guys
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you gotta admit, the Kurds are coming out of this whole thing looking pretty good
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