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 I have a somewhat spotty history with the James Bond series. It has always been the favorite series of my father and grandfather, and my older brother got really into it when we were younger. I think as a reaction to wanting to be different from my brother, I stayed mostly away from them. As a result, when I was a kid I only really watched 3 "classic" Bond movies, Goldfinger, Moonraker, and Licence to Kill. I have very brief memories of all three, remember thinking they were alright, but not really enough to grab the attention of 10 year old me. This all changed with Goldeneye, Pierce Brosnan's first. I was suddenly in love with James Bond, and I've seen every Bond since. I acknowledge that there are flaws in the series as I've watched, but for the most part I've always seen them as charming flaws. That being said, I've never really tried to go back and watch the older movies. It's always seemed like I wouldn't even know where to start, there being so many of them. That changes now. I want to go back and watch all of them from the beginning and post my thoughts here. Keep in mind I have seen barely any of these movies, barring a random scene here or there throughout the years. So I am largely ignorant of the finer details. That being said, I have a basic understanding of the series from conversations and, basically, being alive. I know about SPECTRE, Blofeld, the travesty of both Never Say Never Again and the Woody Allen Casino Royale, the rights issues with Thunderball, etc. But I thought it would be fun, and mainly I wanted a place to talk about my Bond watching experience and couldn't find a Bond thread. Spoilers for future movies are fine, I mean it's been long enough. Though I'd ask to try and keep the discussion away from focusing mainly on future movies until I get to them. That being said, feel free to use this as a general James Bond thread for discussing the series as a whole. Any Spectre (the new film) specific talk should go in the Spectre thread, found here. I also don't know how often I'll be posting, as it'll really just be as I get a chance to watch the movies, but I'll try to keep it semi regular. thrawn527 Write-Ups Dr. No From Russia With Love Goldfinger Thunderball Casino Royale (1967) You Only Live Twice On Her Majesty's Secret Service Diamonds Are Forever Live and Let Die The Man with the Golden Gun The Spy Who Loved Me Moonraker For Your Eyes Only Octopussy Never Say Never Again A View to a Kill The Living Daylights Licence to Kill Simply Simon Write-Ups The World is Not Enough - Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Nov 2, 2015 |
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 Dr. No I really enjoyed this movie. It’s a more subtle, nuanced look at being a spy than I was expecting. Almost more realistic. (Almost. The second half ruins a fair amount of goodwill the first half earns, but I’ll get to that later.) Sean Connery is giving everything he’s got and the character of Bond comes off as an actual character, and not an oversexed cliche he is known for. Sure, the sexuality and one liners are there, but so is a level of competency and calculation that I didn’t know existed in Bond movies this early on. I was quite impressed by Connery in this role. As the only Connery Bond movie I had seen previous to this was Goldfinger, and that was when I was pretty young, it was fascinating to see a Connery who was still trying to establish himself. He has a way of carrying himself, of analyzing a room, and of overtaking any scene he’s in. He has an instant screen presence that hadn’t yet been overtaken by ego. He’s at the top of his game here.  We open our movie with the famous shot of Bond walking in site of a gun barrel before turning and shooting. Only, oh he has a hat in these movies, that’s funny. Wait...that’s not Bond. Who the gently caress is that guy? They didn’t have Connery be the guy in the gun barrell? Why not? Weird, I wonder how long this lasts. Bond opening credit scenes are legendary, and the first opening is...well, really strange. There’s not really a “Bond song” so to speak, though the main theme that will become replayed in each movie makes it’s first appearance here. But during the credits there are actually three songs played, which I wasn’t expecting. The first is the previously mentioned main Bond theme, the second is an instrumental Calypso song, followed by a Calypso version of three blind mice? Why? I mean, I get what happens next, when we transition into three blind men, but it is so bizarre having seen the super sexed up opening credits of the Brosnan era to see the first Bond movie credits focus so heavily on three blind men in Jamaica.  The assassination of the British Station Chief in Jamaica leads James Bond, 007, to be dispatched to investigate. One quick question that may or may not be answered as the series goes on: how many 00 agents are there? Just ten? Do they go up to 0034? Because that really doesn’t have the same ring to it.  Anyway, this leads to our introduction to James Bond, and it’s everything I was expecting it to be. He’s in a casino, in a tux, playing baccarat (which I do not understand in the slightest, but whatever), and just oozing charisma. I’m impressed by how many of the staples of the series are established in this very scene. Playing baccarat, smoking a cigarette, sophisticated, flirting with a woman who stands out from the crowd (here Syvia Trench, played by Eunice Gayson, in a stunning, but classy, red dress), it’s all here. An entire franchise is established in this somewhat short scene. One quick note that I might as well get to now. Why are all of the women in this movie dubbed in some rather obvious ADR? I could see if they didn’t like the performance of the actresses and tried to address this in post, or if they lost the audio and had to fix it on some, but a good portion of the women in this movie are voiced by someone other than the actress seen on screen. And I read that this continues on the series for quite some time, with most of the early Bond actresses being dubbed over (one notable exception being one character in Goldfinger, whose name I hesitate to mention here for fear of a derail). Does anyone know why they felt the need to do this? We get some heavy flirting between Bond and Miss Trench, before he leaves and gives her his card. This was apparently enough to get her ready to go, because by the time he makes it back to his room, she is already there wearing nothing but one of his shirts. How did she break into his room? Shouldn’t that be harder if he’s an intelligence officer? Eh, whatever. When Bond heads into the main office we meet Moneypenny, played by Lois Maxwell. And speaking of being ready to go, Bond and Moneypenny flirt like they’re the last two people left at closing time on New Year’s Eve. Moneypenny, for her part, gives about as well as she gets. Bond: “Moneypenny, what gives?” Moneypenny: “Me, given an ounce of encouragement.”  Why these two never actually seal the deal (unless you assume they finally did in Skyfall) is beyond me. Because the sexual tension here is intense. She is apparently his kryptonite, enjoying his charms, yet in actuality immune to them. After a brief scene with Miss Trench I mentioned earlier, Bond is off to Jamaica. And we get some of the subtle spy stuff that I love so much in this movie. Bond is greeted by his driver, he excuses himself and calls where he is heading to ask if they sent a car, and is told no. Brief scene, but showing Bond analyzing every angle and preparing for it. “Forgive me if I’m a few minutes late.” It’s clear that in every scene, while you may be 2 steps ahead, Bond is at least 4 steps ahead. Bond gets the better of his driver by the side of the road, who proceeds to swallow a cyanide capsule. Classic spy stuff, but really seems to imply our villain inspires incredible devotion in his followers, but in this movie I just can’t see why. Once I learn of Dr. No’s plans, I have no idea why this guy died to protect them.  When Bond checks into his hotel we have another of my favorite scenes in the movie, and again it’s subtle. Bond gets into his room and we see him do more of his standard spy stuff, and I love it. While no music plays, Bond sets up his room. Checks the room from a few angles, pours some powder on his briefcase to detect tampering, pulls a hair out of his head and puts in across the closet door to do the same. I’m not sure why, but I really kind of love it. You get the feeling he’s used to doing this every time he gets into a new room he’s going to be staying in, and it seems as natural to him as breathing.  Hawaii 5-0’s Jack Lord is in this movie playing Felix Leiter, who will be a recurring character throughout the franchise, and the main thing I’d like to note about him here are his sunglasses. They’re just ridiculous. Did no one tell him he was wearing women’s sunglasses? Because that was mean of them. Bond also meets with a professor Dent, played by Anthony Dawson. Dent had been working with Strangways, but is of course working for Dr. No, and is responsible for the attempts on Bond’s life so far. Dr. No is growing impatient with his failures, and gives Dent the ultimate weapon to defeat Bond...a tarantula. This leads to the most hilarious assassination attempt I’ve seen in film. Apparently Dent sneaks into Bond’s room at some point and plants the tarantula in his bed? Which then doesn’t move until Bond is asleep? Which then slowly crawls up Bond’s arm (which was obviously not on his arm but on top of glass for filming)? How did anyone expect this plan to work?  Dent also tries to kill Bond by way of the soon to be classic femme fatale, here a Miss Taro played by Zena Marshall, but Bond sees through this immediately. I mean, he still sleeps with her, because why wouldn’t he do that before turning her into the CIA? But before and after doing this, he is just so dickishly dismissive of her. I mean, sure, she’s evil, so I guess the movie uses that as an excuse to sleep with her and move on, but it just in general makes me a little uneasy. Anyway, he then uses her trap to trap Dent and kill him. I mean, he had the chance to get more info out of him, and Dent was unarmed, but he straight up kills him anyway. Because what use is a license to kill if you don’t get to use it once in a while. Bond makes his way out to Crab Key, where Strangways was investigating, and here we meet the first true “Bond Girl”, Ursula Andress, playing (though not in voice) Honey Ryder. We come across her in a white bikini searching for shells to sell in Miami. I mean, she’s gorgeous, but coming this late in the movie, and given what she does for the rest of the movie, I’m not really sure why she’s here. She doesn’t seem to add much, has a brief backstory she just kind of dumps into the movie in a monologue, and is just kind of...there for most of the rest of the scenes.  This is honestly where the movie starts to falter in my eyes. Bond and Ryder are captured and scrubbed down in case they encountered radiation (oh, movie). Oh, and I guess Quarrell is killed, but no one seems to care so I’m not sure why I should. We are finally introduced to the villain Dr. No almost 90 minutes in, who just doesn’t work for me at all. He has some sort of “handicap”, which seems to mean his hands have trouble gripping things, but can also crush a cup or something? It’s never made clear, and is a weak quirk for a villain. Here he reveals that he works for SPECTRE, which is just an awful acronym. SPecial Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge, Extortion? That’s forcing it in a few ways. But SPECTRE will be a mainstay villain for most of Connery’s movies, so it’s noteworthy even if it’s just a name drop. Dr. No’s plan is apparently to disrupt the Project Mercury space launch from Cape Canaveral with his atomic-powered radio beam. The why is never made clear. He seems to be angry at them, so it’s just to piss them off or something. I’m still not sure why all of his minions are so devoted to him they’d rather die than upset him.  Anyway, I’m going to try to wrap this up because there’s not really much left. The finale is decidedly underwhelming. Bond escapes his cell through an air vent that first explodes but then it easily crawled through. He then makes his way to Dr. No’s control center, where we get an exciting scene of Bond turning a wheel. And while I know I praised the movie earlier for realism over bombastic action, this is just boring. He turns a wheel, which overloads the nuclear reactor, and starts the whole base on a path to destruction. Dr. No tries to fight Bond, but falls into radioactive water and dies. That’s about it, other than escaping the base with Honey Ryder. It’s a let down given the fun travellogue movie we’d been watching up until this point. The movie ends with Bond and Ryder in a small boat being rescued by Felix, which Bond then refuses by tossing back the line they were going to tow them with so he can get some sweet sweet loving from Ryder.  Despite a bit of a let down of an ending, I really enjoyed Dr. No, and I can see why it launched the popular series of movies. The first half sets up so many elements of what Bond will become, but still manages to hold off on the crazier aspects the series will be known for later, such as the gadgets (there is, for example, no mention of Q Branch at all in this movie). Connery is pitch perfect, all charisma and sex appeal, while also being cool, calm, and calculating, constantly analyzing everything around him to search for anything that might give him the upper hand. The film is also, for the most part, shot beautifully, showing off tropical Jamaica, and as I understand it, one of the main reasons these movies became so popular was showing off gorgeous foreign locales. It’s a fun spy adventure, and a great way to kick off a series. I’m looking forward to what comes next, as I have no idea what the next movie is even about, other than I’m gathering someone from Russia has love on the mind. James Bond will return in From Russia With Love! thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Jun 19, 2015 |
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From Russia With Love is the perfect Bond movie in my opinion and the model for all spy thrillers. I think you'll enjoy it a lot. If I could switch lives with one person in history, 60's era Connery would be pretty high on the list. He just comes across as the Ultimate Man, I don't know how an actor does that with so little previous acting experience.
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Basebf555 posted:From Russia With Love is the perfect Bond movie in my opinion and the model for all spy thrillers. I think you'll enjoy it a lot. Wikipedia has this bit on Sean Connery after casting. quote:After Connery was chosen, Terence Young took the actor to his tailor and hairdresser, and introduced him to the high life, restaurants, casinos and women of London. In the words of Bond writer Raymond Benson, Young educated the actor "in the ways of being dapper, witty, and above all, cool". Oh, to be in that group.
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Dec 23, 2014 18:36
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They most definitely did not seal the deal in Skyfall.
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You may want to give the James Bonding podcast a listen. They are going though the entire series, going from the first in the first episode, the last in the next, and working their way forward and backwards until they meet in the middle. They are nearly done, currently being in the Roger Moore era. http://www.nerdist.com/podcast_channel/james-bonding-channel/ It's pretty good, the hosts clearly both love the movies, and while they aren't all great episodes, I usually learned a couple of things about the movies that I didn't know from each episode. Also Matt Gourley was on the Dead Author's Podcast as Ian Fleming, it was pretty good.
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Dec 23, 2014 19:38
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:They most definitely did not seal the deal in Skyfall. The brilliance of that part of Skyfall is that: "at the level of its surface narrative line, the film can be constructed by the spectator as obeying the strictest moral codes, it simultaneously offers to the sophisticated enough clues to construct an alternative, sexually much more daring narrative line. This strategy is more complex than it may appear: precisely because you knew that you are as it were “covered” or “absolved from guilty impulses” by the official story line, you are allowed to indulge in dirty fantasies. You know that these fantasies are not “for serious,” that they do not count in the eyes of the big Other. [...] To put it in the Lacanian terms: [they] did not do it for the big Other (in this case: the order of public appearance which should not be offended), but they did do it for our dirty fantasmatic imagination. This is the structure of inherent transgression at its purest: Hollywood needs both levels in order to function."
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Dec 23, 2014 19:39
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AFewBricksShy posted:You may want to give the James Bonding podcast a listen. They are going though the entire series, going from the first in the first episode, the last in the next, and working their way forward and backwards until they meet in the middle. Funny you should mention that. It's the reason I decided to do this. I listened to a few of the episodes for movies I'd seen, but figured I should finally get around to watching the older movies before listening to their recaps. But yes, the few episodes I listened to were pretty great. I'll be sure to listen to each one after I do my write ups here.
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Dec 23, 2014 19:40
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AFewBricksShy posted:You may want to give the James Bonding podcast a listen. They are going though the entire series, going from the first in the first episode, the last in the next, and working their way forward and backwards until they meet in the middle. Speaking of podcasts, over at Alcohollywood we've also got episodes on Dr. No (this one was actually a commentary, though that's too late for you to partake, really), Diamonds Are Forever and Skyfall, complete with cocktails and drinking rules, just for kicks.
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Dec 23, 2014 20:10
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thrawn527 posted:Wikipedia has this bit on Sean Connery after casting. Terrance Young also made Connery sleep in a suit so that he would know how comfortable they can be.
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Looking to future Bonds, what do people think of Idris Elba as the next Bond? According to the leaked emails, some bigwigs at Sony want him , and a lot of fans have said they'd like to see it. I think he'd be pretty good at it as he's cool, has sex appeal and is British (and a great actor). It'll upset a lot of racists too which is always fun.
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Spalec posted:Looking to future Bonds, what do people think of Idris Elba as the next Bond? I love this idea. Elba would be great, especially as a further-on along Bond who has given up on being human and has completely embraced his role as a heartless killer indulging in booze and women. I also hope that, if they go for it, they in know way acknowledge the change in race. If they start putting ‘James Bond is a codename’ poo poo in the films I will go mental.
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Spalec posted:Looking to future Bonds, what do people think of Idris Elba as the next Bond? I wish it had been him instead of Craig. I dont have anything against Craigs Bond but im just bored as poo poo with Bond movies at this point and would rather see Idris Elba in something more interesting
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Dec 24, 2014 00:43
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Crackerman posted:I also hope that, if they go for it, they in know way acknowledge the change in race. If they start putting ‘James Bond is a codename’ poo poo in the films I will go mental.
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Sasquatch! posted:Have they ever really addressed this? Is "James Bond" supposed to be the same character all these years, or does every actor just silently "reboot" the series without it really be acknowledged? It's the same character, the producers have explicitly said as much. There's continuity between the films too, i.e. Bond's wife is mentioned in Moore and Dalton movies. That's why Brosnan's Bond has to deal with Jack Wade instead of Felix Leiter who had his legs bitten off, even though Joe Don Baker already played a villain (this happens a couple of times too) Cacator fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Dec 24, 2014 |
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Dec 24, 2014 01:11
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You’re supposed to not give a poo poo.
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zVxTeflon posted:I wish it had been him instead of Craig. I dont have anything against Craigs Bond but im just bored as poo poo with Bond movies at this point and would rather see Idris Elba in something more interesting Craig's Bond pretty much traces Idris Elba's Luther though and that's why most people want him as Bond.
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Dec 24, 2014 01:23
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zVxTeflon posted:I wish it had been him instead of Craig. I dont have anything against Craigs Bond but im just bored as poo poo with Bond movies at this point and would rather see Idris Elba in something more interesting Before they went with Daniel Craig, Colin Salmon was actually in the running briefly which would have been incredible. He actually plays a minor recurring character in the Brosnan movies but who gives a poo poo. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Dec 24, 2014 |
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Dec 24, 2014 05:37
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computer parts posted:Craig's Bond pretty much traces Idris Elba's Luther though and that's why most people want him as Bond. This why it would be perfect to have Elba as the end result of Craig’s Bond and then never acknowledge the change. Also, a remake of Live and Let Die with Elba directed by Quentin Tarantino.
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Dec 24, 2014 05:38
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Continuity in Bond films isn't something you can or should care about. Moonraker has super advanced space stations and laser battles in space but later films in no way acknowledge this crazy advanced technology. This doesn't matter and you can enjoy the other films just fine by happily ignoring it just as those films do. The sudden importance of Bond continuity in light of Elba being mooted for the role is fascinating really; transient sci-fi tech, an eternally youthful (sans Moore) Bond, the shift from the defining cold war theme and even Bond becoming a new recruit again can be happily ignored but Bond's family home in Skyfall being in Scotland? No, that is set in stone for all time and, alas, means Bond can never be black.
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Dec 24, 2014 08:54
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Crackerman posted:Also, a remake of Live and Let Die with Elba directed by Quentin Tarantino. Are the villains white now?
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zVxTeflon posted:I wish it had been him instead of Craig. I dont have anything against Craigs Bond but im just bored as poo poo with Bond movies at this point and would rather see Idris Elba in something more interesting Unfortunately, everything I've heard about Spectre from the Sony leaks suggests it's going to be more of the same, a grim reflection of the real world rather than the funhouse mirror of the Connery/Moore years. 
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Dec 24, 2014 09:30
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Elba has repeatedly stated his desire not to be the counterculture 'black Bond' which is fair enough I guess. ""I'd definitely consider it," he told host Linda Wertheimer. "I just don't want to be the black James Bond. Sean Connery wasn't the Scottish James Bond, and Daniel Craig wasn't the blue-eyed James Bond; so if I played him, I don't want to be called the black James Bond."" So it would depend on the reason he was cast. He's absolutely amazing in Luther.
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Dec 24, 2014 10:03
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Hey cool, I did this once. Basically, playing Goldeneye 64 got me into Bond. I had to see the movie after that, did so, enjoyed it, and ended up going to the library and checking out every single Bond movie and marathoning them over a few days. I was like, 14 years old, so you can imagine why I enjoyed most of them.
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Payndz posted:I rather miss the days when Bond movies were fun. Craig's Bond is a broken, angry husk of a man stumbling through the world's most dangerous midlife crisis who fails at everything except killing, and the villains he's faced are colourless thugs with dull goals like "make money" and "monopolise a small country's water supply". Bring back swagger! Bring back cool! Bring back puns and OTT bad guys and monorails! Yeah, at least Moore's midlife crisis was fun as heck. Wacky Bond took a pretty heavy hit from Die Another Day even though the wackiness wasn't the biggest problem with it. Tomorrow Never Dies wasn't perfect but taking the basic premise of that and having the villain be a crazy Silicon Valley mogul rather than Rupert Murdoch could work. With their fondness for seasteading and 'disruption' you could easily have an entertainingly crazy villain without straying too far from reality. I'd like to see Elba as more a fun Bond, he's played a lot of serious roles but you get the feeling he could do more light hearted stuff. The suave side he has down for certain, the bitter comments of his fellow male cast members on The Wire regarding his prowess with the ladies alone shows that. I don't understand how you could do a counter culture Bond though, Bond is a personification of the establishment. Elba would have to be a Bond that happens to be black rather than a Black Bond.
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Payndz posted:I rather miss the days when Bond movies were fun. Craig's Bond is a broken, angry husk of a man stumbling through the world's most dangerous midlife crisis who fails at everything except killing, and the villains he's faced are colourless thugs with dull goals like "make money" and "monopolise a small country's water supply". Bring back swagger! Bring back cool! Bring back puns and OTT bad guys and monorails! The Craig Bonds are just dreadful for this reason. Their scripts might as well be Bourne Identity sequels.
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Dec 24, 2014 14:36
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Elba has a pretty happening career going right now, I totally understand why he wouldn't exactly jump at the chance to play Bond. These next 3-5 years will probably end up being the peak of his career, why waste it doing nothing but Bond movies? In the end the money will probably end up being comparable, he's going to be making big money in whatever roles he takes going forward.
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Sasquatch! posted:Have they ever really addressed this? Is "James Bond" supposed to be the same character all these years, or does every actor just silently "reboot" the series without it really be acknowledged? Each film is a silent reboot that cherrypicks its own canon, like the post-2000 Toho Godzilla movies.
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I kinda agree. I do want to see Elba as Bond but often enough I'd rather good actors or artists do something orifinal they can own and make their own than go down a path others have and be limited. Eh. Eithe way. Hopefully this leads to good stuff for Idris.
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Also to note, Elba is getting pretty old to really take on a role that is physically demanding and will likely span around a decade of his career. Craig was 38 when he took the role (he's 47 now) and given Craig is rumored to have one more film in him, he's likely to retire just past his 50's, assuming Bond 25 will come out around 2019 so. Elba would be around 47, so while technically feasible, they'd be looking at recasting someone younger simply for the mileage.
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I really hope Craig retires when he is 50 or so. Roger Moore was way too old for A View To A Kill. Or even for Octopussy. But no one could have saved that movie. They tried James Brolin as Bond and there is test footage of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksjXilVYIxw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhkUWMJoccQ AstroWhale fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Dec 24, 2014 |
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Neo Rasa posted:Before they went with Daniel Craig, Colin Salmon was actually in the running briefly which would have been incredible. He actually plays a minor recurring character in the Brosnan movies but who gives a poo poo. holy gently caress, really? Love Colin Salmon, that would have been incredible.
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I really like the Craig Bond, but the reason they went away from the goofy Moore (who I don't really like at all) Bond is because of the Austin Powers movies.Onion AV Club posted:“We had to destroy the myth because [the Austin Powers movies] hosed us,” Craig said. “I am a huge Mike Myers fan, so don’t get me wrong, but he kind of hosed us, made it impossible to do the gags.” http://www.avclub.com/article/daniel-craig-says-austin-powers-hosed-james-bond--212553
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I had no idea there was so much hate or dislike for the Craig era. I've loved them, minus Quantum.
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ComposerGuy posted:I had no idea there was so much hate or dislike for the Craig era. I've loved them, minus Quantum. I've found Quantum works way better if you treat it as the second half of Casino Royale. On it's own it was okay.
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ComposerGuy posted:I had no idea there was so much hate or dislike for the Craig era. I've loved them, minus Quantum. The majority of fan opinions in the lead-up to Casino Royale were the exact opposite of what people are saying now. We had gotten sick of over-the-top gadgets and flamboyant villains, everyone wanted a real spy-thriller that went back to roots ala From Russia with Love. Bond is really a genre on its own at this point, and just like other genres the public appetite for it is cyclical.
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I enjoy Daniel Craig's Bond as well. I've got the Bond 50 Blu Ray set that came out around Skyfall's release and have re-watched them for the first time since I was younger. When I was a kid I liked the Moore movies, but they haven't aged well for me. I think Elba would make a good Bond while keeping the same tone as Craig's movies. edit: I have to admit skipping Die Another Day, seeing that in theaters was enough for me.
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exquisite tea posted:The Craig Bonds are just dreadful for this reason. Their scripts might as well be Bourne Identity sequels.
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Payndz posted:Licence To Kill wanted to be a Joel Silver actioner so much it even got Michael Kamen to do the score Kamen scored that one because Barry was recovering from surgery to repair a ruptured esophagus. Timby fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Dec 24, 2014 |
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AFewBricksShy posted:I've found Quantum works way better if you treat it as the second half of Casino Royale. On it's own it was okay. Yeah, that's probably the way to go. Casino Royale is my favorite. Like, not just of the Craig films. ...well, OK, From Russia With Love is hard to top, but it's drat close for me.
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