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Horking Delight posted:> answer phone Stumbling out of your chair, your bones creak as you make the trip up the stairs for the...second? third? time today. The phone is in the living room, a long trip down a hallway with a burned out bulb, but you manage to catch it before the voicemail activates. Come to think of it, since no one ever calls, you've probably never set up your voicemail. The voice on the other end is a vaguely familiar female. "Is this the C_____ residence?" "Yes it is. Who am I speaking to?" "This is Nicky. We met at church the other day. I just wanted to know if we were still on for Bible study tomorrow?" >
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CowOnCrack posted:Yes, it turns out I have feelings. I apologize I don't have superhuman powers to immediately forgive a 2 year long nightmare and that I am still in the process of doing so. Please forgive if not all of my words are carefully polished into gems of pure compassion and sincerity for this person, and be sure to blame absolutely everything on me if there's the slightest hint of it in my language. The only purpose of this thread that I can tell is that you really, really, really want to display negativity, badmouth her, and complain that the world does not actually revolve around you. Is there anything in this thread that doesn't boil down to that? Adar posted:Stumbling out of your chair, your bones creak as you make the trip up the stairs for the...second? third? time today. The phone is in the living room, a long trip down a hallway with a burned out bulb, but you manage to catch it before the voicemail activates. Come to think of it, since no one ever calls, you've probably never set up your voicemail. > Talk about manifesto
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CowOnCrack posted:Just so I can "gently caress her". Or want a happy married life with this person. Clearly society has taught you to think of sex only one way. I believe in sex only to have children within the context of a fully committed married relationship. Please respect that not everyone believes sex is an abominable recreational exercise in carnal lust and pleasure. You're right, you don't just want to "gently caress her", you want to tie her down for the rest of your lives so that you can experience a feelgood fantasy of yours. That's so much better.
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CowOnCrack posted:Ah, and now we are debating substance. What if emotionally supportive friendships between men and women are all a farce? Which part. The possibility of friendships between unmarried members of the opposite sex, or the part where women must be accompanied by a husband or male relative to prevent their sultry ways from luring and entrapping innocent nice guys?
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Adar posted:"This is Nicky. We met at church the other day. I just wanted to know if we were still on for Bible study tomorrow?" >Interpret NON-VERBAL COMMUNICATION on NICKY
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CowOnCrack posted:Ah, and now we are debating substance. What if emotionally supportive friendships between men and women are all a farce? Take that extreme starting point in order to think it through. It was only a farce because you didn't reveal your feelings for her until 3 years in. You were the dishonest one. and yes this is "substance" because all this poo poo you're posting is an attempt to deal with your horrible attitude towards this girl. Blisster fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Dec 25, 2014 |
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CowOnCrack posted:Ah, and now we are debating substance. What if emotionally supportive friendships between men and women are all a farce? Take that extreme starting point in order to think it through. Except they are not. Congrats. CowOnCrack posted:I am a human being with a point of view that I am arguing, the same as you. You are a human being with reprehensible views on marriage and women. That does not earn you respect. Have you honestly considered Islam? It would probably fulfill your marriage needs better. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Dec 25, 2014 |
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I refuse to beleive cowwhateverthefuck is real. He is clearly a talented troll rather than the most boring MRA loser in the world. Oh im so sorry you experienced a numbingly common rejection that the rest of us all got over decades ago. Yes, this certainly means you, as a person who struck out with the only person you ever gave a poo poo about by being a mentaller, should dictate to everyone else about the rules of romantic engagement. Im happy that you made this thread though, hopefully we can draw in some true believers.
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nopantsjack posted:Im happy that you made this thread though, hopefully we can draw in some true believers. Have you read his exciting literature? He is like the Thomas Paine of Romantic Relationships and Marriage
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Horking Delight posted:> Talk about manifesto This time, you're not going to beat around the bush. It's time to play the game your way. "Sure, but just so you know, this interaction isn't going to be successful unless we wind up married at the end of it. I'm not getting friendzoned again. It took six years to get over the last one!" Nicky laughs. "If I didn't know any better I'd say you were flirting with me. Too bad my boyf-" You don't know what she was going to say because you immediately put down the phone, feeling cheated. Ugh, women. Time to refine the document again. >
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Adar posted:This time, you're not going to beat around the bush. It's time to play the game your way. >open CLOSET
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CommieGIR posted:Except they are not. Congrats. You continue to dismantle yourself by not respecting me or my point of view because it disagrees with yours. nopantsjack posted:I refuse to beleive cowwhateverthefuck is real. He is clearly a talented troll rather than the most boring MRA loser in the world. Since 93% of communication is nonverbal, you can only see 7% of what I am communicating and your brain is making up the other 93%. The Something Awful motto is that the internet makes you stupid. I think forums are not ideal places to have discussions for this issue - people seem more focused on attacking me and proving I am some incorporeal being than discussing what I have to say.
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CowOnCrack posted:Since 93% of communication is nonverbal, you can only see 7% of what I am communicating and your brain is making up the other 93%. Where is your citation for this?
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CowOnCrack posted:You continue to dismantle yourself by not respecting me or my point of view because it disagrees with yours. The guy who failed at one relationship that wasn't even a relationship is going to lecture us all on proper relationships  It disagrees with reality, and is sexist as hell. Keep trying. CowOnCrack posted:Since 93% of communication is nonverbal, you can only see 7% of what I am communicating and your brain is making up the other 93%. The Something Awful motto is that the internet makes you stupid. I think forums are not ideal places to have discussions for this issue - people seem more focused on attacking me and proving I am some incorporeal being than discussing what I have to say. Imadethisshitup.txt Except for the fact that you ARE in the right place to discuss this issue, being that the issue is YOU. The only other place to discuss it is with a therapist, and if your therapist agrees with your world view, your therapist is a loving moron.
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CowOnCrack posted:Just so I can "gently caress her". Or want a happy married life with this person. Clearly society has taught you to think of sex only one way. I believe in sex only to have children within the context of a fully committed married relationship. Please respect that not everyone believes sex is an abominable recreational exercise in carnal lust and pleasure. hahahahahahahahahaha
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OP I'm like a Kinsey 5 (for reference)  Is it impossible for me to have any friendships with anyone period unless it's leading toward marriage/piles of unprotected sex/children? Or can I be friends with women 83% of the time and men only 16% of the time, or what? I need a mathematical formula, and you're the expert on six sigma relationships etc.
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VitalSigns posted:Where is your citation for this? http://www.businessballs.com/mehrabiancommunications.htm
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Please respect that not everyone believes sex is an abominable recreational exercise in carnal lust and pleasure
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kustomkarkommando posted:>open CLOSET You stumble back down into your basement and open your closet. Your wardrobe needs updating - any normal woman would look past the clothes and see the real you, anyway - but you do think your fedora selection is quite stylish. Aside from the hats, you have a wide variety of wolf shirts, dragon kimonos and the odd xkcd comic tee to pick from. Your vest collection is less extensive and some of them don't fit you anymore, though. If you intend to go outside, you must select three (3) items - a shirt/kimono, a vest and a fedora - to wear along with your currently four day old blue jeans. Select the COLOR, STYLE and COORDINATION. The temperature is 50F. >
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quote:Mehrabian's communications model is frequently applied in an overly simplistic or indiscriminate manner.
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TheSpookyDanger posted:Please respect that not everyone believes sex is an abominable recreational exercise in carnal lust and pleasure maybe it's for the best that he believes sex is gross and wrong because god help the girl he finally corners and decides to take out his pent up frustrations on
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Really OP treating your arguments with any dignity is ceding more ground than you deserve. Your manifesto sounds like the one written by the Santa Barbara shooter just with religious iconography thrown in. You completely disregard the agency of women, and your views on relationships are not compatible with Western conceptions of relationships. Maybe in a country far more patriarchal than even the United States you could find your view that marriage is a biological and spiritual imperative, or whatever. But your views are unhealthy and completely flushing this garbage out of your mind would be the first step towards finding a marriage you want so goddamn much.
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VitalSigns posted:Please handle it with care and ensure it is used in proper context with suitable explanation. I have done this effectively. If you disagree, please say why. Jagchosis posted:Really OP treating your arguments with any dignity is ceding more ground than you deserve. Your manifesto sounds like the one written by the Santa Barbara shooter just with religious iconography thrown in. You completely disregard the agency of women, and your views on relationships are not compatible with Western conceptions of relationships. Maybe in a country far more patriarchal than even the United States you could find your view that marriage is a biological and spiritual imperative, or whatever. But your views are unhealthy and completely flushing this garbage out of your mind would be the first step towards finding a marriage you want so goddamn much. It seems when you wrote this that you don't have a clear idea of what my views are. Where have I ever disregarded the agency of women? I believe if women seek marriage they will be happier as well. I understand I am going against the grain of Western conceptions of relationships but I am also completely tolerant of alternative arrangements, and I have stated this many times. I have a point of view I would argue because I believe it works and will create more harmony - all I would ever use to argue that point are my words, and what I would seek in my own personal romantic life. I only seek to persuade others and may the best arguments and data win. If the idea is radical and you want to squelch it for that reason you are a hypocrite. CowOnCrack fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Dec 25, 2014 |
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CowOnCrack posted:You continue to dismantle yourself by not respecting me or my point of view because it disagrees with yours. 93% of your verbal communication is completely stupid, how does that factor in? You aren't novel or special its not like we're having a tough time understanding your premise, its just that if I had to write a butthurt MRA troll he would say all the same things you do because your experience is so typical and what you're going through is a phase that hopefully ends with you realising what an rear end in a top hat you've been. From your own words you asked a girl with a boyfriend if she would marry you, then when she said no you send her a list telling her how to be less of a tease. Sorry, once you lose your virginity though this is all going to seem rather embarrassing to you. e: although I should make clear not all virgins are as lovely as this guy, its just one of my remaining virgin friends is exactly this guy, except he has brief moments of clarity where he's like "man if id just kissed that girl back 5 years ago i wouldn't hate women now"
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Adar posted:You stumble back down into your basement and open your closet. Your wardrobe needs updating - any normal woman would look past the clothes and see the real you, anyway - but you do think your fedora selection is quite stylish. Well I have lost all this weight, so the ladies will want to see my alpha physique. >select NO SHIRT >select SMALL RED VEST >select FEATHERED TAN FEDORA
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Adar posted:You stumble back down into your basement and open your closet. Your wardrobe needs updating - any normal woman would look past the clothes and see the real you, anyway - but you do think your fedora selection is quite stylish. > help style
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wheez the roux posted:maybe it's for the best that he believes sex is gross and wrong because god help the girl he finally corners and decides to take out his pent up frustrations on Sex is gross, though. It's full of squishy noises, and often the bodies have cellulite, sometimes hair. What's worse is they often expect to go to sleep next to you, like your privacy means nothing or whatever.
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wheez the roux posted:maybe it's for the best that he believes sex is gross and wrong because god help the girl he finally corners and decides to take out his pent up frustrations on wait OP what do you even think that sex is like? do you think sex a fist fight or some of that real hosed up porn?
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CowOnCrack posted:I have done this effectively. If you disagree, please say why. because you're a psychopath with views of women that would fit right in with ISIS and are about one bad day from being the next elliot rodgers you creepy piece of poo poo
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TheSpookyDanger posted:wait OP what do you even think that sex is like? umm sex is a fist fight though?? if you don't spar krav maga until someone loses one of their 5 senses as foreplay you're doing it wrong imo.
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wheez the roux posted:umm sex is a fist fight though?? if you don't spar krav maga until someone loses one of their 5 senses as foreplay you're doing it wrong imo. my wife has lied to me! OP what do I do with my life now that I have figured out that my wife has lead me on about sex?
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wheez the roux posted:because you're a psychopath with views of women that would fit right in with ISIS and are about one bad day from being the next elliot rodgers you creepy piece of poo poo Wow. It seems everyone is literally incapable of arguing the substance, and now I'm being called a terrorist.
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CowOnCrack posted:Wow. It seems everyone is literally incapable of arguing the substance, and now I'm being called a terrorist. Maybe sometimes the world is crazy, but in the case it's definitely you that is crazy. Also how does your creepmanifesto account for lesbians? Are they leading each other on or what. How does this work? edit: please don't tell me that you didn't think your relationship worldview through very well 
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CowOnCrack posted:Wow. It seems everyone is literally incapable of arguing the substance, and now I'm being called a terrorist. There is no substance. You are starting on a false narrative born of mental illness and rationalizing. It's like arguing with flat-earthers.
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CowOnCrack posted:I have done this effectively. If you disagree, please say why. Aside from the questionable precision of getting communication ratios down to two significant figures... Just because other information is communicated with tone, facial expression, body language, etc does not mean that the words are unimportant and you should infer something totally contradictory to her words. For one thing, it's rapey: "her lips said no, but her eyes said yes!" For another, you're discarding the objective content of the words she consciously selected to convey to you a message ("I have a boyfriend") and preferring your own subjective interpretation coloured by what you want to be true ("She asked me for a ride and is confiding in me, no one would do that unless they want the D!")
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TheSpookyDanger posted:Maybe sometimes the world is crazy, but in the case it's definitely you that is crazy. Also how does your creepmanifesto account for lesbians? Are they leading each other on or what. How does this work? I have nothing against lesbians. I would wish that they get married and adopt an orphan, perhaps. Raising a kid is a joy to have in life. Would the relationship dynamics be optimal with two motherly figures, or would one of them have to take more of a fatherly role? Either way if they were together and in love it's cool with me.
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CowOnCrack posted:Wow. It seems everyone is literally incapable of arguing the substance, and now I'm being called a terrorist. The substance of your post is wrong. People disagree that your interpretation of God's way is best. People disagree that relationships without marriage are wrong. People disagree that sex without procreation is wrong. Hell, people don't even agree that a single parent is always worse than two parents but that two parents are better than three parents. People disagree that women must be married to men (and should not be single or unmarried). Unless you can convince people of those basic opinions you have, nothing that builds on those assumptions can be addressed because they rely on something people disagree with.
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