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DJExile posted:Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice 20 girls in a Rutgers sorority house woke up with swollen faces and no clue why
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RC Cola posted:Idgi one of the things he likes doing most is banging whores. he goes out and he bangs a lot of whores
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Aphrodite posted:Technically just sorority girls. and really, just the ones with poor enough taste to attend Rutgers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK-wZ7gp7Co
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Levitate posted:oh ahaha my bad for not being up on lovely tv shows. jeez what a kerfuffle! no worries bro, you find me those twenty Rutgers girls Jagr pounded and I'll personally apologize face to face to all of em
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Aphrodite posted:The other 2 coaches will remain as well. Lou finally gets the final piece to the puzzle, only to find out he has put on too much weight to fit in place Aye Doc fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Jan 27, 2015 |
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Aphrodite posted:Boston already had Adam Oates when it was younger, they have an immunity now. Adam Oates ® Acts immediately Lasts indefinitely Severe Reactions Fast. Powerful. Bold. Shocking.
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Fancystats Christ has risen and walks among the living and his name is MimicoHero. https://twitter.com/MimicoHero/status/560844227475951618 http://ownthepuck.blogspot.ca look at how loving cool this is.
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Anders posted:I present: tanner glass: not even half as good as a fourth line player.
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fits posted:pfft, those losers are still getting scoring chances how the gently caress does he have a respectable corsi against
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Hand Knit posted:If it's based on something like Steve Burtch's delta corsi, Coltor Orr used to look pretty good defensively on that too, so I think there may be some room for, uh, suspicion as to the adjustments they are using. i lost a long cool post and I'm not repasting all the stats from my tablet but if you look at Orr's and Scott's WOWYs in the aberration years (14-15 for JS and 09-10 for Orr), there is some fun stuff to learn so it seems like a combo of a few things. First, these dudes suck and only play sucky players. Zac Rinaldo is not a threat and he is the kind of dudes they're going up against. Second, there's obviously some sample size issues at play. Scott only has 158 mins logged on hockey analysis this year, with 105 with Andrew Desjardins. For that Orr year, he played the full season but is Colton Orr so is still at about 550 minutes and he has a loving ton of partners in that season. He sees his biggest improvements when he gets time with the top two lines, but Ricardo Wallin also has a big effect on him. Third, we know John Scott and Colton Orr are not good possession players and have never actually been (and looking at their normal off-wingers, we can include all of them in suckville). So I guess my working theory ATM is that Wallin/Desjardins are good enough to carry some dickturd wingers to respectable numbers. I don't know much about these players, but if they're puck carriers more than dumpers, and are going against the Zac Rinaldos of the world, I can see how they would be able to prop up some dead weight just by holding the puck on 1) short shifts 2) against lines who do nothing but lazily dump the puck in and try to grind it out. I looked at Desjardins in the graph evaluator and his numbers suggest he is at least an okay fourth liner, and 09 is too long ago for Wall in to show up. but that's kind of crazy to me, that one unspectacularly adequate center can prop up the deadest of the dead weight just because of how the matchups work out for goony wingers. Aye Doc fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Jan 30, 2015 |
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Zamboni Jesus posted:it's always been my theory that a smart team would put together an speedy, offensively capable 4th line rather than the endless parade of worthless grinders. there are usually guys that seem like they have offensive skills, but never manage to stick on a top line for whatever reason - e.g. lars eller with montreal. it seems like all you need is the slightest bit of offensive capability and you can crush possession vs. most fourth lines because of how many big hitty dudes still infest the league. imagine if instead of all these smaller dudes with offensive touch just washing out because they aren't good enough to be a big boy and not defensively irresponsible enough to stick... gently caress it, throw him on the fourth line. every team is sheltering their bottom line to begin with, 30 seconds of tiny dudes actually having the puck is infinity better than having Adam Burish wasting the oxygen in the arena. and it isn't like it matters if you're putting a defensive trainwreck out as your fourth - other fourth liners can't loving score! one day my dream of a Ryan Shannon-Steve Kariya-Jordan tiny Canucks prospect center guy line will come true
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gently caress jim benning
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ThinkTank posted:He's not exactly been a shrewd trade negotiator so far. he has badly lost every single trade so far except for Dorsett. Sbisa is barely good enough to be in the NHL, Bonino is a third liner whose counting stats got propped up by the Anaheim juggernaut, Vey is a third liner with some vague offensive skill. He gave up Jason Garrison who has been a good top 4 D-man his entire career except for one season when John Tortorella decided to start commuting 90 minutes a day between countries, just to free up money to get us Ryan Miller at $6,000,000 per year and he isn't even a top 20 goalie anymore. Benning is stupid & dumb & a loser. imagine how sweet it would be to have Jason Garrison right now instead of anyone else sucking up the bottom four, and Jonas Hiller instead of ol' Wonk-Eye.
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 what do you like better, corrado and his 95% or the buffalo guy with a 0%?
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Menamino posted:I've only had the fortune of watching them a few times, but I feel like the sabres are easily the worst team I've ever seen in any sport that didn't involve some first season expansion team business. I know they're supposed to have a really good prospect pool and are now basically a lock to add mcdavid or eichel, but drat they're missing a lot. http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/teamstats.php?disp=1&db=201415&sit=5v5&sort=CFPCT&sortdir=DESC the difference in CF% from Buffalo to the next lowest team is 6.1. that is the same difference as between the #1 team, Chicago, and the 25th team, New Jersey. i went back through the 07 season and Buffalo would be the first ever team to post a sub-40 CF%
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Derek dorsett returned to practice they're skating Clendening with Sbisa. may as well cut off the guy's left foot if you're going to saddle him with that
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bewbies posted:I totally read this as a guys name and was very curious who pre haagen dazs boudreau was and actually went so far as to google it before I realized what was going on here. I did this too, except I went "I don't give a poo poo who that guy is" and skipped to the next post and only just now realized what it was, so uh.. thanks?
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nature6pk posted:I'm not sure where he would end up at this point though. He'll be the 4th centre in Buffalo after McEichel/Reinhart/Grigorenko if they really commit to the kids, and there's no way they'll keep his cap hit around long term. Not really sure who's suffering at center enough to take a flyer on him, other than the comedy option of the Flyers. I think he could see success as a special-deployment-only bottom line player plus PP specialist but he will probably get way too much money for that to ever be worth it. and not even Vigneault does crazy enough zone starts to protect Hodgson, so its not like there is a coach out there who even would do that
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evenworse username posted:Can someone explain to a math idiot (me) what 'Score Adjusted Corsi' is? the short answer is that it is Corsi taking into account the score and time left in the game, as compared to the league average in those situations. i also wrote a long answer for some reason, and this will be way more information than you ever need, and a lot of it certainly will be irrelevant to the basic question, but I will try to explain it in-depth with some historical context because I think it is kind of neat to see how it all developed over a few years. So one of the first things people noticed about Corsi (and later Fenwick) was that it did not account for the fact that teams play differently depending upon the situation of a game. As a Canadiens fan, you probably notice that Therrien has the team sit back extremely passively with a lead and I am sure he has a few other traits for other score situations. So, obviously, Corsi on its own is not giving the full picture - if a team is purposefully playing to give up possession, it will skew the numbers, so you need more data to really analyze things. They refer to this new set of data as "score effects," and it takes into account game score and time left in the game. So teams trailing by 2 goals get more aggressive and register more shots, teams ahead by 2 goals generally play less aggressively and get less shots. Originally, people said okay, so we know that these scenarios alter the play style of teams - how do we adjust for it? The original idea was that you would only look at Corsi when the game was tied because that is the "normal" circumstance. So there was now Corsi Close, which is Corsi when the game is a one goal difference, and there are also Corsi Ahead/Behind/Even. Now instead of one Corsi, there are four and they all tell us something completely different. People started talking about Corsi Close like it was extremely the poo poo and the coolest and most predictive stat there was until some smart guy proved that all wrong, but it was at least enough of a starting point to kick analytics into the right place. Now they had full data about score effects and shot differentials, it just took some calculations and a little time. The raw numbers were useless for a few reasons, but the primary being that every team is a whole lot loving different. As an example, Minnesota might run a system that suppresses shots and it has an even more pronounced effect in 2 goal difference situations, and Tampa Bay might run a system that has them unleashing a ridiculous amount of shots on net, again even more pronounced if there is a 2 goal difference. So how do you look at the difference between Tampa's CF% in a tie game versus their CF% down 2? You look at the league as a whole! So if Tampa is at 52% CF down 2, and the league average is 51%, you can now quantify how Tampa performs in that situation in a tangible and real way. So score adjusted Corsi takes a team's Corsi Close, Even, Ahead, and Behind and how much Time on Ice they have in those situations, and throws it all together to spit out a number. Each game situation has a specific weighted value, I don't know which ones are given more importance off-hand or the specifics behind that. Most likely, Montreal suck since January 1 and are bad but are being propped up by something beyond the measure of these numbers and that something is probably Carey Price.
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Sharks Eat Bear posted:i imagine that there's some sort of analysis suggesting that this method for score adjusting results in better correlation to wins? i get that score effects are a thing, but at the same time, i suppose it's always a trade off between sample size and game situation specificity you would expect that the smaller sample sizes would do some weird poo poo with it, but for some whacky reason , score adjusted corsi/fenwick correlate more strongly with a team's final point total when it is early in the season as opposed to later
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