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Just wanted to pop in and say no, Mark Hunt would not beat or be favored against Jon Jones. Like come on.
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Mark Hunt would beat all of them.
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Jan 4, 2015 20:09
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Last night was just depressing. After round 3 I had DC down 2-1 but really thought he had the momentum and was going to take it to Jon the last 2 rounds and take the belt. But Jon did what always does, and rose to the occasion and dominated with the fight on the line. The only person I could see beating Jon and has a realistic chance to actually fight him is Cain, and with a gun to my head I'd probably pick Jones in that fight too. Jones is a tool, but the guy is, I guess you could say a "true champion". I realized that when he was down two rounds to one against Gus and was definitely losing the 4th round with about 30 seconds left and then he pulled that elbow out of his rear end to take the round and eventually the fight. He literally couldn't have afforded to lose 30 more seconds of that fight and he didn't. The guy is going to go down as the best MMA fighter of all time weather we like it or not. 
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Jan 4, 2015 20:44
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I'm no expert when it comes to cutting weight but I don't think Cain would have any major issues cutting to 205. I could be wrong though.
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Jan 4, 2015 20:57
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Sherdog posters talk about GOATS often. Anytime a new champ is crowned and defends once or twice they start talking about them as being the GOAT. I've heard it about Weidman, DJ, and Pettis. However educated MMA fans usually only talk about 1 or 2 guys being the best ever, and that is Anderson and GSP. I think it's very safe to put Jones in that category at this point.
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Jan 4, 2015 21:03
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K8.0 posted:I don't think this is a reasonable claim at all. If consistently winning against guys who are just not quite good enough would make Jones GOAT, then Aldo blows his doors off with what he's done. The only time Jones ever really struggled was against GUS. Last night he was in control most of the fight even. Oh Vitor almost tapped him. lol.
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Jan 4, 2015 21:07
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Bundt Cake posted:educated mma fans know fighters from before anderson and gsp Ah yes I forgot to mention Ken Shamrock and Tito Ortiz in the GOAT discussion. Ty1990 fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Jan 4, 2015 |
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Jan 4, 2015 21:08
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Joe Rogan is the GOAT in podcasts though.
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Jan 4, 2015 21:20
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Bundt Cake posted:I think it could be cool to talk about great fighters, but I guess we have to make sure that all the idiots know they're dumb if they consider fighters besides anderson and GSP as the greatest of all time. I mean none of the fighters you listed have the resume Anderson has and a few of them aren't even remotely close.
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Jan 4, 2015 21:32
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And we resort to GOAT chat because I want to forget everything about last night.
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Bundt Cake posted:Why dont you make a specific point professor Coleman and BJ lost a lot and Anderson didn't?
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By the way, I do agree that a P4P GOAT discussion is a bit tired at this point, but I was just responding to somebody scoffing a few pages back at Jones being looked at as one of the best fighters ever at this point. MMA fans as a whole crown a fighter way too quickly as one of the best ever, but I was just saying that it may be time to in fact look at Jones in that light.
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Jan 4, 2015 21:44
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Cowboy is the loving best.
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Jan 6, 2015 03:36
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Holy smokes. Props to him for getting help though. As a brother of a person who refuses to enter rehab for alcohol and destroys his life one mixed drink at a time, I can attest to how important it is for somebody to realize they have a problem.
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Jan 6, 2015 23:45
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woozy pawsies posted:whoaaaa so weed gets you a NC but cocaine is fine??? hahahah What a strange gay sport we follow.
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Jan 6, 2015 23:50
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When would the UFC/Commission have known about these test results? Before the fight?
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Jan 6, 2015 23:58
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I hope this isn't a case of Jones partying one night, getting popped, and then Dana was all "Listen kid I know you were just having some loving fun but this isn't a good loving look for the UFC so we need you to go to rehab for a little while. Don't loving get caught again."
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Fozzy The Bear posted:So you think that was his first time? I think there's a difference between doing it every now and then when out on the town and snorting a fat line between training sessions.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Lets hope that group counselor wears some thick glasses lmaooooooooooo I love this forum.
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Jan 7, 2015 00:17
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Can somebody explain to me, a moron, why this whole saga is funnier all of a sudden?
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Jan 7, 2015 23:44
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Is coke fun????
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Jan 9, 2015 02:50
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I've never used coke before just Molly once or twice.
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I think, and bear with me here, that Wandy sort of has a point. Not about them loving over Jones or whatever, but with the point that they have no idea what they're doing. I didn't watch the video; Sick guitar riff or no?
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Jan 10, 2015 00:59
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You got me.
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Jan 15, 2015 00:16
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I wanted to bet a PermaBan on Weidman winning but Fatherdog said those bans are reserved for goons who post child pornography.
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Jan 15, 2015 01:22
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I had it 29-28 Bendo but all 3 rounds were tough as gently caress to score. Also just wanted to say that Conor is the first fighter I've seen come up through the ranks as a nobody (I remember his fight with Brimage very well) to becoming a superstar and it's pretty cool tbh.
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1st AD posted:Conor wasn't a nobody when he was signed, he already had a rabid fan base I didn't know this.
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Jan 19, 2015 19:00
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red19fire posted:His off-the-cuff trash talk is only slightly better than Michael "Toilet Store" Bisping's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr62C5iT3sw
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Jan 19, 2015 20:31
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Seltzer posted:The UFC strapped a rocket to his back and protected him more than anybody since Brock. Protected Brock? By putting him in there against the former world champion (and still good) Frank Mir in his 2nd professional fight?
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CommonShore posted:"Still good" is debatable at that time. Mir had not long before that suffered a quick KO loss to Brandon Vera, and lots of people thought that he'd never recover his old form after his motorcycle accident. Let's just say you're right about that. Still, Brock's 2nd professional fight was against a top 5 heavyweight in the world. I'm not sure there's another fighter who's ever gotten thrown into the fire like that.
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Jan 19, 2015 22:07
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I have no stats or evidence to base this off but I think last night's UFC card gave the UFC more publicity than it's gotten in quite a while. My facebook and twitter feeds were blowing up with people all "this irish dude is kicking rear end!"
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Jan 19, 2015 22:42
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So I read over 200 posts hoping to find one claiming that the CroCop thing was fake. That post never came.
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Jan 21, 2015 01:40
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Clearly the cops weren't big UFC fans if they thought they needed a taser to tame Dave Herman.
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Nick Diaz is a beloved fighter because he has absolutely no filter and has all sorts of screws loose which leads to funny poo poo happening. IE running out of the backdoor of his manager's house to avoid going to a press conference and costing himself a 7 figure paycheck in the process. If you don't like Nick Diaz you probably are no fun to be around and all the people you think are your friends hate you.
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Bundt Cake posted:Nick Diaz does triathlons and is an excellent athlete Correct and he posts videos on youtube of him throwing ninja stars and knives and poo poo. Also nunchuks.
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As a person who played football for ten years, I have no idea why somebody would choose to play it now given what we know about it. I stopped playing after high school in good health, and I didn't want to compromise it for some DIII glory.
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Jan 24, 2015 21:41
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Those videos were loving hilarious lmao.
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Jan 25, 2015 21:38
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Pointing out that Chris Weidman dominated every minute of octagon time he logged with Anderson Silva isn't being "so pro Weidman it's crazy!" it just means we watched the fight and aren't retarded. There are still people out there in the Twitter and Youtube universe that think he got lucky. Twice.
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freud mayweather posted:i agree with Dangerism that Weidman didn't dominate the couple minutes at the end of round one when he was too tired to keep his mouth closed or manage any output at all. not that it mattered. Somebody smarter than I, I believe in the UFC July thread of 2013, pointed out that Chris wasn't throwing all that much at the end of the round because Silva had his hands down and was basically trying to lure him into throwing a bunch of sloppy punches out there so he could get his timing down. I'm not saying this is total fact, but I feel like there could be some truth to that. I like you and Dangerism though. I think the Silva superfans on sherdog and Youtube have gotten me to act hostile toward any questioning of Weidman in those two fights.
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If you dislike Nick Diaz you probably take this gay sport too seriously.
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