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Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009

Dingleberry posted:

These fuckers got a free flyover at a wedding and all they're like is "wahhhhhh we're babies..."

http://m.aljazeera.com/story/201418135352298935

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Carteret
Nov 10, 2012



"You can't do that with that, man."

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

shooting your AKs up in the air for a wedding celebration is a terrible idea haha

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe

Dingleberry posted:

These fuckers got a free flyover at a wedding and all they're like is "wahhhhhh we're babies..."

http://m.aljazeera.com/story/201418135352298935

:sbahj:

Spacman
Mar 18, 2014
Now he's outed himself they should send him a bill for the Hellfire

E: Loling at this bit "After talking with victims and family members in the area, it was clear a majority of civilians were among the carnage of the targeted wedding convoy."

Hahaha, these fuckers were by admission chilling with AQAP and are all butthurt because they got lit up.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Should charge them for the pre-dug mass grave.

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011

Booblord Zagats posted:

My guess would have been Pakistani
I was going based on the yellow headbands with green text; Hezbollah staple.

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Dead Reckoning posted:

Are those guys Hezbollah?

https://archive.moe/k/thread/24286988/#q24286988

That one is, supposedly.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


Dingleberry posted:

These fuckers got a free flyover at a wedding and all they're like is "wahhhhhh we're babies..."

http://m.aljazeera.com/story/201418135352298935

:thurman:

Bernard McFacknutah
Nov 13, 2009
"We received flour and sugar today from USAID with US flags stamped on it, but before we could even eat it they dropped their bombs on us,"

Whoever devised that tactic needs a medal.

Spacman
Mar 18, 2014

Bernard McFacknutah posted:

"We received flour and sugar today from USAID with US flags stamped on it, but before we could even eat it they dropped their bombs on us,"

Whoever devised that tactic needs a medal.

That has to be something out of the bush wars, but refined for today. Stick a $25.00 phone in the aide package, whatever bullshit warlord grabs it you let the gps guided bombs do the rest. Most of that airdropped aide goes to the strong-arm fucks, let them take it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2lxgplJVo8

Completely guilt free jdams.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES


'It's kind of like the game 'The Floor is Lava' but with subtle differences'

Caconym
Feb 12, 2013

Accretionist posted:



'It's kind of like the game 'The Floor is Lava' but with subtle differences'

Where's the 'after' picture when the sink comes off the wall?

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.
http://www.funker530.com/u-s-f-16-dodges-six-sam-launches-on-camera/

:stare:

ManMythLegend fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Jan 13, 2015

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!
That's some serious pucker factor.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

he was slow nearly the whole time

no weasel support??

Koesj
Aug 3, 2003
That's the infamous downtown baghdad raid, right? It was very poorly planned.

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009

bahgawd :magical:

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd

Koesj posted:

That's the infamous downtown baghdad raid, right? It was very poorly planned.

Yup. Poorly planned, poorly executed, and the added bad luck of bad wx on the tanker tracks that threw everything into disarray before they even ingressed. The majority of the strikes against Baghdad after this raid were conducted strictly by F-117s.

The wiki write-up isn't too bad, but in response to the question about SEAD the Weasels were lightly loaded (only 2xHARM a piece) because they were range limited. This also meant that they had to RTB before most of the package had even struck their targets, much less were clear of the SAM rings. So for the majority of the raid the F-16s were hanging out there in daylight over downtown Baghdad without any SEAD or EW support. And to add insult to injury, the F-16s got chased down by some MiG-29s after egressing...which they had to turn around and engage (nevermind that they were insanely short on fuel) because their F-15C escort had also RTB'd with the Weasels.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

iyaayas01 posted:

Yup. Poorly planned, poorly executed, and the added bad luck of bad wx on the tanker tracks that threw everything into disarray before they even ingressed. The majority of the strikes against Baghdad after this raid were conducted strictly by F-117s.

The wiki write-up isn't too bad, but in response to the question about SEAD the Weasels were lightly loaded (only 2xHARM a piece) because they were range limited. This also meant that they had to RTB before most of the package had even struck their targets, much less were clear of the SAM rings. So for the majority of the raid the F-16s were hanging out there in daylight over downtown Baghdad without any SEAD or EW support. And to add insult to injury, the F-16s got chased down by some MiG-29s after egressing...which they had to turn around and engage (nevermind that they were insanely short on fuel) because their F-15C escort had also RTB'd with the Weasels.

:psyduck:

after reading palace cobra i didn't think they would be so dumb about weasels. did they forget the lessons from nam? :/

edit : meh i don't know what was going on i just remember seeing that poo poo on cnn when i was a teenager

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer

ded posted:

:psyduck:

after reading palace cobra i didn't think they would be so dumb about weasels. did they forget the lessons from nam? :/

edit : meh i don't know what was going on i just remember seeing that poo poo on cnn when i was a teenager

The answer is no. No the military does not learn from previous lessons. Ever.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Mike-o posted:

The answer is no. No the military does not learn from previous lessons. Ever.

they learn to throw more bodies at it, that i know for a fact!

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!
WE JUST NEED MORE HEART

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

ded posted:

:psyduck:

after reading palace cobra i didn't think they would be so dumb about weasels. did they forget the lessons from nam? :/

Almost every single one of them with the exception of Warden's Rings poo poo. We're killing off the training routines that were specifically designed to avoid Vietnam/Korea style fiascos, like Red Flag. Green Flag is worthless. Going downtown and want a little electronic support? Check out the USAF's current jamming inventory:








Yeah. Zero. Self-protection capability, which falls well short of a dedicated platform (EF-111, for example, or EA-6B, or EA-18). I'll give the BUFF credit though, I've seen that poo poo get turned on and it was interesting to see. But there are a lot of reasons that's not the right/complete answer.

As far as the Viper in that video, he never gets a chance to get his energy/speed back up. An F-16's thrust-to-weight ratio is barely above 1:1.

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd

Mike-o posted:

The answer is no. No the military does not learn from previous lessons. Ever.

To be fair, in Vietnam with very few exceptions they would do the same thing day after day without any real change. The BUFFs in Linebacker II literally flew the exact same flight paths, down to the post-target turn, on the first three consecutive nights of bombings (which is why so many got shot down the third night). Contrast that with Desert Storm, where the AFCENT planners immediately looked at the results of the raid we're talking about and went "....yeah, maybe we don't send large F-16 packages downtown all by their lonesome anymore, that was a bit of a bad idea." They should've known better in the first place but at least when it blew up in their faces they stopped doing it as opposed to trying it for another week just to see if something would magically change.

But yeah, re: long-term lessons from Rolling Thunder and Linebacker...Godholio's basically spot on.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
The F-117 shootdown could fit in that paragraph, too. Something something don't learn from history something something.

Koesj
Aug 3, 2003

iyaayas01 posted:

Contrast that with Desert Storm, where the AFCENT planners immediately looked at the results of the raid we're talking about and went "....yeah, maybe we don't send large F-16 packages downtown all by their lonesome anymore, that was a bit of a bad idea." They should've known better in the first place but at least when it blew up in their faces they stopped doing it as opposed to trying it for another week just to see if something would magically change.

That was an AF that had basked in a decade of Reaganbucks and was still very much op for the Big One™ against numbah one top peer opponent. I can only imagine how the current nickel-and-diming troupe would react, especially with institutionalizing the bombing mud people for more than a decade now.

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

Godholio posted:

The F-117 shootdown could fit in that paragraph, too. Something something don't learn from history something something.

I had an instructor at NPS who was a retired AF LtCol who had been a 117 planner. We had a nice long discussion about that incident one day. He had a lot of really good insight into it as he was a planner in that conflict, though not for that mission.

Genocide Tendency
Dec 24, 2009

I get mental health care from the medical equivalent of Skillcraft.


chitoryu12 posted:

The uncensored video is here if you don't mind seeing the guy get blasted so hard he ends up in the air ricocheting off the doorframe. I don't think anyone's taken that many bullets since Bonnie & Clyde.

Couple pages back but.. LoL.

Like 6 dudes just clip dumped a dead body. That and Ahmed Al Dumbass thought he was going to jump through a doorway and make a break through an entire raid team.. Its like everything I love rolled into 40 seconds of video footage.

Flaky
Feb 14, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!
Do they rotate firing positions because of the low capacity revolvers or another reason? Seems like a weird tactic.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Flight of the Intrudohwaittheyshotitdownandbeheadedthepilot

Spacman
Mar 18, 2014
Just Military Things!

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Godholio posted:

The F-117 shootdown could fit in that paragraph, too. Something something don't learn from history something something.

The weirdest thing about that story is how the pilot and the missile operator became friends.

Also, an old mil-vid classic

Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Jan 13, 2015

Serjeant Buzfuz
Dec 5, 2009

Wasabi the J posted:

The weirdest thing about that story is how the pilot and the missile operator became friends.

Also, an old mil-vid classic

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.
http://theaviationist.com/2015/01/12/typhoons-over-grand-canyon/

A few neat photos of Brit typhoons flying over the grand canyon.

hostile apostle
Aug 29, 2006
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Wasabi the J posted:

The weirdest thing about that story is how the pilot and the missile operator became friends.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-20209770

Wow, no kidding

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
beta as gently caress

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

Colonel's wife gonna be wild'n out on some MPs

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer
Seatbelts are for pussies.

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Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

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Mike-o posted:

Seatbelts are for pussies.

Not according to that gif.

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