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THE PENETRATOR posted:that's all youve been posting about. is how it hurts the middle man. that's the only thing uve ever posted that ive read. clearly i was correct if uve resorted 2 these attacks on my character. how dare u. thats certainly not all I have been posting about. Im gonna go ahead and assume you take a low effort approach to life in general and probably didnt read much of what i posted.
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But how does piracy hurt the true artist of our generation? http://www.amazon.com/Emergency-Reggae-Ringtone-Alert-Explicit/dp/B004EDYY92
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Jst0rm posted:it was just a strawman... the one armed man fallacy, moving the goalposts (again!  ), ANOTHER strawman fallacy and henlinger's third fallacy
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Jst0rm posted:thats certainly not all I have been posting about. Im gonna go ahead and assume you take a low effort approach to life in general and probably didnt read much of what i posted. why would i read anything u post
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Anorexic Robot posted:But how does piracy hurt the true artist of our generation? im buying this
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THE PENETRATOR posted:why would i read anything u post well you must have to respond to that post 
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Jst0rm posted:well you must have to respond to that post u must be new to gbs
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THE PENETRATOR posted:im buying this dont forget there hit song "lil human being the crazy KKK ringtone text alert alarm" from their hit album http://www.amazon.com/Ringtones-Com...ingtone+Factory
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Jst0rm posted:well you must have to respond to that post stfu and gtfo
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Wootman posted:stfu and gtfo waaaaa my poo poo thread isnt the poo poo I wanted it to be. - Wootman
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Volume posted:Mods please rename thread to "every day we own Jst0rm in this thread"
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it doesnt become funny the more you post it. I mean if that's your 1 original thought and you want everyone to know you are the one who had it then fine keep posting it but as your best friend I'm telling you that it doesnt work.
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Jst0rm posted:waaaaa my poo poo thread isnt the poo poo I wanted it to be. - Wootman strawman fallacy much?! get hosed
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Jst0rm posted:it doesnt become funny the more you post it im sorry, thats not true
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Jst0rm posted:waaaaa my poo poo thread isnt the poo poo I wanted it to be. - Wootman You are trying to argue about privacy for no drat reason in this thread and no one gives a poo poo so you look like a big colossal retard. Idc about the thread but its just sad to see you post over and over so stop posting dumbass.
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Wootman posted:You are trying to argue about privacy for no drat reason in this thread and no one gives a poo poo so you look like a big colossal retard. Idc about the thread but its just sad to see you post over and over so stop posting dumbass. maybe you all are entertaining me and I am enjoying the bantar. OR OR OR I am a retard. In the end only I really know.
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GrrrlSweatshirt posted:strawman fallacy much?! get hosed did you seriously just figure out what logical fallacies are? Glad I could help.
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GrrrlSweatshirt posted:puppetmaster lmao the first one was pretty good.
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Jst0rm posted:did you seriously just figure out what logical fallacies are? Glad I could help. moving the goalposts to support ur appeal to strawman argument, i see...
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GrrrlSweatshirt posted:moving the goalposts to support ur appeal to strawman argument, i see... you are no true gbser.
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Jst0rm posted:you are no true gbser. 
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Anorexic Robot posted:"I hate the neologism "owned" for "scored a victory over". I have no intention of owning anyone, and nobody will ever own me." - Jst0rm if the price is right I will sell myself. Just to be clear about it.
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He used "neologism" that's like a smart word for smart people who champion the plight of the common man beset by the oppression of teenagers that torrent art rock on GBS.
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Wootman posted:i'm downloading a lot of music to put into my mp3 player slash phone atm while reading this. I'm up to about 5tb you?
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Have you ever paid for porn? Case closed.
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:I'm up to about 5tb you? 5 tb of music christ man. I only got about 7 gigs of music and thats cause my phone can barely hold anything, i use spotify or pandora on my pc.
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:Have you ever paid for porn? i like how the barrier isnt do I pay for ALL of my porn its just have I ever paid for porn. lmao.
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:I remember CineD being a giant circle jerk the last time I was there.  Goldfinger This is going to get ugly. I knew going into this that I was going to have to overlook a lot of sexism. It was a different time in cinema, and Bond is famous for being a womanizer for a reason, so what exactly was I expecting? Maybe for future movies, I’ll do a better job at overlooking it or noticing it and moving on with a brief mention. But it has to be explored here, because holy poo poo. This movie straight up hates women. Just hates them. Every woman in this movie is treated horribly, and it’s shown in a way that we, the audience, are supposed to not only be okay with, but agree with and cheer on. This can’t just be a product of the time. It honestly blew me away. I haven’t seen this since I was probably about 7 years old, but I sure as poo poo did not remember Bond raping a woman. But I’ll get to that later. Opening gun barrel shot, still not Sean Connery. Maybe that doesn’t change until Moore? Weird. Anyway, in our opening scene, after Bond infiltrates and blows up some sort of silos (something about heroin filled bananas?), we see something I’ve now come to see as cliche (it’s recreated in the opening scene of True Lies). Bond takes off his wetsuit to reveal he’s wearing a tuxedo underneath. I don’t have much to add, but it’s a cool touch, and I’m assuming this is the movie that created it.  He then enters a club and we meet the first in a long line of problematic female roles. A half naked women is dancing for a bunch of men, who then goes to take off what little clothes she was wearing and make out with Bond. But it turns out she was just bait for his and we get a ridiculous shot of Bond seeing an attacker sneaking up on him by seeing a reflection in the woman’s eye (seen below). He electrifies the man in a bathtub, delivering the, admittedly pretty funny pun, “Shocking”.  For those keeping track, first woman we’ve met was naked, a traitor, and beaten about the head. Then we finally get an opening segment I’m more used to in the series, a half naked woman is panned over while scenes from the movie are projected onto her. But I don’t understand the scenes they choose to go with. There’s a man sitting in a car, a golf ball being hit, and a the same shot twice of an overweight blonde man looking at something. Thrilling! The song is great by Shirley Bassey, though, and will set the standard for Bond themes for years to come. We’re then taken to Miami beach, looking nicer than any time I’ve been to Miami. But as a flashback to the 60s it’s fun to watch. Bond is lounging by a pool when Felix, unfortunately not played here by Jack Lord but by someone named Cec Linder. We also meet a woman Bond is with named Dink, played by who cares because she’s about to leave the movie forever. Bond dismisses Dink, the second woman we meet, by smacking her on the rear end and saying, “Man talk.” What the gently caress was that? Our hero, everyone.  The plot, as we know it for most of the movie, isn’t great in this. Felix tells Bond he is to observe gold bullion dealer Auric Goldfinger (I am going to assume he legally changed his name to that, or else he has the most job appropriate last name since my high school English teacher named Ms. English). Now, if you’re a spy, and you’re told to observe, you’d probably do so in secret, and not reveal yourself to the person being observed, right? Well gently caress that, Bond says! He sees that Goldfinger is cheating at a card game, with the help of a woman named Jill Masterson, who is watching the whole thing from a balcony in her underwear. Bond jumps onto the transmitter Jill is using to communicate with Goldfinger and tells him to start losing or else he’ll reveal the cheating plot to the police. Jill, who should be disturbed by this, finds this charming and sleeps with Bond because of course she does. After they do this, and Bond utters the strangest line I’ve ever heard about wine being served at the wrong temperature (“That's just as bad as listening to the Beatles without earmuffs!”), he is knocked unconscious by an unknown assailant. Upon waking up he sees the famous shot of a dead Jill Masterson completely covered in gold paint. It’s ridiculous (how long did it take Oddjob to do this?) but it’s iconic, so fine. But again, now the third woman we’ve met was never seen fully clothed, immediately betrayed her boss the moment she met Bond, slept with him, and is now dead. Super. Apparently the paint is what killed her, from "epidermal suffocation", which I don’t think is a real thing that can kill you.  There is a great moment here, though, when Bond calls Felix. Bond: “The girl is dead.” Felix: “Dink?” Bond: “No, Masterson.” Felix had no reason to believe Bond was with anyone other than the woman he saw him with like 2 hours ago, but Bond has practically already forgotten Dink even existed. I had to laugh, but I don’t think that was intended. Back in London, Bond is tasked with finding out how Goldfinger smuggles gold overseas. He sets about to do this, naturally, by arranging to play golf against him. He brings a recovered Nazi gold bar as stakes.  Before he goes we get the first look (of so many we’ll get in the Bond series) of Q Branch itself. There are experiments going on all over the place, people getting shot but surviving due to bullet proof vests, and the whole thing looks kind of like an indoor sanitized version of the SPECTRE training ground from the previous movie. Q gives Bond his, again iconic, Aston Martin. It has bullet proof glass, smoke screen, oil slick, and machine guns. Also, a red button that triggers an ejector seat for the passenger side. This strikes me as only being useful in the very specific set of circumstances he uses it later on. The golf game is rather bizarre, with both sides trying to outcheat each other. After the game is done, Goldfinger has his henchman Oddjob display his very peculiar way of attacking people, with a steel rimmed hat. From the last couple of scenes I can already tell the quiet espionage films of the first two Bond movies are dead, and we’re getting into the weird campy stuff. From Russia With Love had a badass Robert Shaw as the henchman, Bond’s negative equal. This movie has a mute brute who kills people with his ridiculous hat. It’s a downgrade, to be sure.  Bond goes to Switzerland, where Jill Masterson’s sister Tilly tries and fails to kill Goldfinger with a sniper rifle. Finally, we have a woman, fully clothed, with a gun, taking matters into her own hands! Finally we have a character with her own motivations and story! Well we can’t have that, says our movie, and in the next scene Bond stops her from trying to exact revenge, which she seems fine with and all smiley during the next car chase, before she is murdered by Oddjob’s hat. Fourth woman we meet, and she is robbed of her motivation by our main character and summarily murdered, removing her from the story. Bond sneaks into a plant and discovers Goldfinger is smuggling his gold by melting it down and working into the bodywork of cars. He also hears a Chinese agent say something about “Operation Grand Slam”, but he really only catches the name. He and Tilly trip an alarm, and are pursued by a bunch of Chinese agents. (It’s explained later why all of Goldfinger’s henchmen are Chinese, and I’ll admit the explanation does work rather well.) During this next car chase we get to see Bond using all of his gadgets, and this must have been incredible fun to watch the first time in the theater. He’s shooting a smoke screen out the back, oil slick, cars are blowing up all over the place. It’s really the first of it’s kind in car chases, to my knowledge, and the crowd must have been going nuts.  Bond is captured, escapes by using his ejector seat to launch a henchman out (why did they have him drive?) and then gets caught again by being fooled through the clever use of a loving mirror. And get comfortable, because at about 50 minutes into the movie, Bond will be held prisoner for the rest of the drat movie (escaping once briefly before being caught yet again). He is strapped down to a table where a laser is slowly working it’s way up a table towards his...well his dick. I will say this would be an absolutely awful way to die. I was trying to imagine at what point it would actually kill you, first slicing into your nether regions, then into your intestines, your stomach, etc., all while you are in agonizing pain, but the whole thing was too horrifying for me to keep thinking about. We also get this great line from Goldfinger: Bond: “Do you expect me to talk?” Goldfinger: “No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die.”  Bond talks his way out of this terrifying death trap by name dropping Operation Grand Slam, saying that he obviously knows something, and so does 008, who would replace him if he dies, so wouldn’t it be better to keep me around and never really ask what he knows? I mean, he doesn’t say that, but that’s what he does, so whatever. He is shot with a tranquilizer gun and wakes up on a jet to meet (here we go) a character named Pussy Galore, played by Honor Blackman. God dammit, this name. I always knew about it, but it’s still just so strange to hear. This was written into a book, into a script, said by an actress, and everyone is just okay with it. Pussy Galore. I’m not adding anything that hasn’t already been said, but seriously, gently caress that name. (Ha!)  Pussy (sigh) is flying Bond to a stud farm in Tennessee, where he escapes his cell and oversees a meeting between Goldfinger and the most stereotypical mobsters you will ever see. They’ve all been lured there by the promise of $1 million, but he says they can take the million or $10 million tomorrow. He then reveals the room they are in is a god damned transformer, as every surface imaginable turns over or converts into something else. It’s honestly pretty ridiculous, as simply setting up a projector would have the same effect, but I actually like the scene because it’s hilarious. He’ll turn over a pool table, lower a wall, say a couple things, then press another button and open the ground, etc. It just keeps getting more and more silly, along with the mobsters saying things like, “Hey, what’s with the trick pool table?” and “I don’t like this” very loudly. It’s great.  Goldfinger tells them his plan is to rob Fort Knox, and one mobsters says he’s out and leaves. The rest stay with the promise of $10 million dollars, but Goldfinger kills them all anyway using poison gas, and I’m left wondering what the point in the scene was in the first place. I mean, sure, we got a plot dump of his plan, but why did he tell these guys his plans just to immediately murder them? Seems like a pretty big waste of time to me. Anyway, we learn he plans to rob Fort Knox by spraying this gas over the entire fort via plane, taking out all the soldiers and guards, allowing them to walk right in. Bond is recaptured and, while lounging around the farm with Goldfinger and drinking mint juleps tells him why he feels his plan won’t work. Goldfinger says it really doesn’t matter, because he’s not trying to rob the place anyway. Bond then figures out that the real plan is to set off a nuclear device in the fort, rendering the gold within useless for 58 years. This would destroy the US currency, raise the value of his own gold, push China to the top of the currency market (which is why he is being helped by all the Chinese henchmen. They’re actually soldiers sent by the Chinese government.) Bond should probably be murdered at this point, instead of just keeping him around to monologue to, but then we wouldn’t have a movie. I guess there’s a quick line about how he knows Bond’s people are watching them, so to convince them there’s no need to raid the place they should make it clear he’s happy and there of his own free will, but it’s honestly a pretty flimsy excuse. We then get a scene where Bond rapes Pussy.  I”m sorry, I said that pretty abruptly, but there’s no other way to see it really. They go into a barn, fight a little bit, and then Bond decides it’s time to have sex. He pins her down, forces her to kiss him clearly against her will as she is fighting him the entire time, and then she appears to think “Let’s just get this over with so this psychopath doesn’t murder me” and goes along with it. It’s disturbing to watch, and I was shocked by how blatant it was. Why have her fight back so much? Like, maybe make it seem like she’s into the flirting and then have it lead to sex, like Bond’s “conquests” usually do? I mean, why have a sex scene here at all, but if you’re going to why make it so clearly rape? It’s hosed up, and I didn’t remember it at all. And before anyone says, “Goldfinger told her to entertain him so she was sleeping with him because she was told to,” then the scene should not have played this way. She would seduce him if that were the case. But instead she clearly wants no part of this. It’s disgusting. Also, I read online that in the book Pussy is a lesbian? What the actual gently caress, Fleming? Anyway, Pussy and her flying blonde hotties spray the nerve gas over the fort, knocking out the soldiers. Goldfinger and his men move in to take over the fort with the nuclear device, and brings Bond with him for reasons passing understanding, handcuffing him to the bomb. Only, surprise, the army gets up not knocked out at all! It seems that the rape of Pussy Galore has successfully turned her away from Goldfinger to Bond’s side, and she switched out the nerve gas for something harmless. That’s right, the rape is not only seen as not a problem, but actually a positive for the plot. Bond would have failed completely, but manages to save the day through the magic powers of his dick. Unreal. US soldiers attack Goldfinger’s forces, and Goldfinger strips off his coat to show he had a US uniform underneath, clearly figuring his plan was poo poo so he better have a backup plan. Bond gets out of his cuffs and has his fight against Oddjob. It’s... I mean it’s okay, but after the fight in From Russia With Love, it’s not that great. The two face off like a couple of wrestlers, and in the end Bond wins by electrifying some bars Oddjob’s hat was stuck in the moment he tries to retrieve it, calling back to the “shocking” death in the cold open. It’s shot pretty slow and boring, though I at least appreciate the immovable object that is Oddjob. Then Bond tries and fails to disarm the bomb, almost cutting a wire that would have almost certainly detonated it, before someone else runs up and flips one switch to turn it off (stopping the timer on 0:07. Cute). Also, I guess Goldfinger gets away.  Bond is then invited to the White House so the President can say thanks for saving our entire economy (though he honestly didn’t do much), but Goldfinger has hijacked the plane he’s on and plans to shoot him. The two fight over the gun and shoot out a window, depressurizing the cabin and sucking Goldfinger out (of the window so tiny there is no way it would suck his fat rear end out of it without basically destroying his body). Oh, and Goldfinger has a golden gun, so I don’t know what will be special about the gun in The Man With a Golden Gun later on, but I guess I’ll get to that when I get there. The plane is out of control, and Bond rescues Pussy (who was piloting the plane? What sense does that make?), with the two of them parachuting to safety. Then we get the standard scene of Bond and Pussy loving instead of getting rescued. End of movie.  Watching this movie was rather jarring to me. The tonal shift Goldfinger takes over the last two movies is shocking. Gone are the cool, calm spy scenes of the first two movies, and it’s replaced with gadgets, which are fun, and big armies duking it out, which is less fun. Someone in this thread said of From Russia With Love that Bond doesn't do much but be around stuff happening, but that really isn’t true. He does plenty in that movie, like steal the Lektor itself. But it really is true here. I can’t really think of much Bond does to move the plot forward, other than get captured and, well, rape Pussy Galore into betraying her boss. There are sequences that have no place here (I left out a rather lengthy scene where Oddjob kills the one mafia boss who wants to leave and has his car crushed, because honestly who cares?) I was all around just disappointed in this movie (clearly). It’s not a good spy movie, and while it introduces a new level of camp to the series it doesn't really commit to the camp in a way that would actually be fun. You get moments with the car and revolving display room, but everything else is just rather boring. It can’t seem to decide what kind of movie it wants to be. And it keeps being brought up everywhere I look as one of the greats of the classic era, but of the first three it is easily my least favorite. It creates the recipe for future Bond movies, but clearly it still needs more time to cook. Sorry if I focused too much on the misogyny here, and I’ll try to ease up on it in future write ups (unless Bond rapes someone else). But I couldn’t not look at it here. The female characters aren't just treated poorly, like I was expecting, but in a just disturbing way. Oh well, hopefully the next entry is better able to settle on a tone, and ease up the throttle on the women hating.
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GrrrlSweatshirt posted:this is a blatant example of not only no true scotsman and strawman fallacy but also, uh these are all good fallacies to commit online, imo. Other good ones are huge wang fallacy Adopting the fat baby fallacy wheres my arm fallacy
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:I only listen to compression free music. Only the extremely wealthy were meant to hear it this way. i dont have good ears so i can't tell anyway w.e
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Wootman posted:i dont have good ears so i can't tell anyway w.e There is no real difference. What's important is that people believe there's a difference.
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