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radiatinglines posted:John Lennon was a complicated dude who was himself abused and admitted to the poo poo he did wrong and tried to change and advocated peace and his ex wife has forgiven him but I guess you can fantasize about beating him up if you want, he's loving dead No he was an opportunist that said/did whatever would get him the most popularity. Just look through his career and see how his look/attitude/opinions changes with the times. Oh wow, he advocated peace and love in the midst of the hippie movement, big surprise. He was wealthy beyond our wildest dreams and flaunted that wealth openly by buying exorbitant things. But you know, imagine no possessions and stuff. His wife may have forgiven him (big whoop) but, I am pretty sure that his son from her never did, the one he ignored once he made it big. He was a flake and manipulator and I would punch him right in his stupid rotting face.
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Smash it Smash hit posted:No he was an opportunist that said/did whatever would get him the most popularity. Just look through his career and see how his look/attitude/opinions changes with the times. Oh wow, he advocated peace and love in the midst of the hippie movement, big surprise. He was wealthy beyond our wildest dreams and flaunted that wealth openly by buying exorbitant things. But you know, imagine no possessions and stuff. His wife may have forgiven him (big whoop) but, I am pretty sure that his son from her never did, the one he ignored once he made it big. U mad Pretty sure he just said whatever he wanted all the time and left it up to bitter nerds like yourself to get all mad about it hawowanlawow fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Jan 7, 2015 |
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Jan 7, 2015 19:28
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radiatinglines posted:U mad lol okay
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Jan 7, 2015 19:32
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can we stop arguing for a second and just mention that ringo makes art in microsoft paint in his spare time http://www.ringostarrart.com/starr_2005.htm
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serbp posted:can we stop arguing for a second and just mention that ringo makes art in microsoft paint in his spare time uh. did he have a stroke or three?
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I understand some people don't like pop, or even don't like the beatles out of pure spite or whatever. I don't care but there are dudes in here saying poo poo like george martin did all their work for them, when he himself goes on about how creative and pioneering in the studio they were. or that Lennon was this machiavellian dude who was always out for popularity, when everyone who knew him highlights at every opportunity how transparent he was and how he didn't think of the consequences of the things he said when he said them. the dude said they were more popular than Jesus in 1960s america for chrissake where do they pick this poo poo up? I'm convinced it's all complete envious fantasy
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radiatinglines posted:the dude said they were more popular than Jesus in 1960s america for chrissake He didn't actually but agreed otherwise
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BigBoss posted:whahm whahm whahm whahm whahm whahm lmao
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HollisBrown posted:lol at anyone who thinks that any member of the Beatles themselves actually had anything to do with the production of their albums. George Martin was the Beatles and will go down as one of the greatest producers in history. lol shut the gently caress up dude like you would've thought of that cool little parallel 4ths harmony in 8 days a week post ur soundcloud bitch
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the beatles were a pop/rock and roll musical group from the 1960s, becoming a cultural phenomenon before breaking up in 1969. e: OR WERE THEY??????? http://thebeatlesneverexisted.com/ Doctor J Off fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Jan 7, 2015 |
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Stick Figure Mafia posted:i know someone already posted it but Why does Paul McCartney look like he has been possessed by Michael Jackson's soul Just let your hair go grey, Paul, you aren't fooling anyone
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Paul can do whatever he wants because good or bad, it's going to be entertaining. He does look weird though. Remember when Pete Townshend claimed that The Who's 'I Can See For Miles' was the biggest, dirtiest and loudest rock song they had ever written and Paul McCartney decided it was lame and then wrote 'Helter Skelter' in response?
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Just a reminder, John Lennon contributed to the decline of Harry Nilsson's health and voice, so super gently caress that guy
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Jan 7, 2015 22:46
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If you criticise the Beatles or state you find them mediocre, it is probably the most taboo thing you can do as a music fan. Why? Why is this?
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Because they're the ultimate Baby Boomer sacred cow
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because the people who criticize the beatles are usually musically illiterate and also whiny kids as has been stated many times itt not liking their songs is one thing but uh music is math and saying ignorant poo poo about their composition and musicianship just makes you sound retarded you can with a really rudimentary understanding of music see why they're considered some of the best songwriters ever ringo was kind of a balls drummer and george never really got good at guitar and john's voice was kinda weak and pitchy a lot and they have some truly lovely songs in their catalogue and uh john was a real piece of poo poo a lot of the time and paul had no sense of shame or dignity whatsoever sometimes wrt his "fruity little songs" as george called them and it's really hard to think of ways that the beatles were bad or unskilled or were not making interesting artistic choices for most of their career. uh, let it be is terrible imo.
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ElGroucho posted:Just a reminder, John Lennon contributed to the decline of Harry Nilsson's health and voice, so super gently caress that guy nilsson was so self-destructive he'd have ended up ruining his voice eventually, with or without lennon and pussy cats but yeah, john was a bad influence who never really grew up
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Just want to add I like all the Beatles pop music poo poo way more than I like their super serious nonsense
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Just a reminder, john lennon murdered sharon tate
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fanged wang posted:because the people who criticize the beatles are usually musically illiterate and also whiny kids as has been stated many times itt i like you more and more every post  though i would have said musically illiterate and whiny fat white retards trying to be too much of a contrarian human being because in their mind too many plebs like a popular thing but they don't fall for that nonsense because they're clever and smart!!! so it fills their non-existent void of a personality by making GBS threads out stupid poo poo like their taco bell dinner they ate last night
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fanged wang posted:because the people who criticize the beatles are usually musically illiterate and also whiny kids as has been stated many times itt Only a Beatles fan could argue that music is quantifiable and the Beatles can be mathematically proven to be the best. L loving OL
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HollisBrown posted:Only a Beatles fan could argue that music is quantifiable and the Beatles can be mathematically proven to be the best. L loving OL still waiting on ur epic soundcloud bro show me the sick penny lane harmonies
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While the Rolling Stones the Kinks and other British bands were doing American Rock and Roll better, sleazier and nastier than Americans, the Beatles were busy adding pennywhistles and references to fish and chips and the queen gently caress that noise
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the trick of the beatles composition and harmony especially the early stuff was to take accidentals and weird intervals and make them sound really natural and catchy a trick paul learned from the ragtime standards he grew up learning i picked 8 days a week earlier because it's a famous example of weird as gently caress harmonies here is a good breakdown of why it is a crazy pop song http://www.recmusicbeatles.com/public/files/awp/edaw.2.html
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ElGroucho posted:While the Rolling Stones the Kinks and other British bands were doing American Rock and Roll better, sleazier and nastier than Americans, the Beatles were busy adding pennywhistles and references to fish and chips and the queen lol yes those scrawny british fops were doing rock and roll sleazier and nastier than the actual hard as gently caress black people who invented it wtf is wrong with yall
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fanged wang posted:the trick of the beatles composition and harmony especially the early stuff was to take accidentals and weird intervals and make them sound really natural and catchy a trick paul learned from the ragtime standards he grew up learning LOL if you think I am going to read some twat's thesis on a not that great pop song from 60 years ago idiot
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fanged wang posted:because the people who criticize the beatles are usually musically illiterate and also whiny kids as has been stated many times itt But the thing is, the intelligence of the average person is quite low, and certainly lower than that of myself. Therefore, the more popular something is, the more likely it is stupid. The Beatles are very popular, and hence very stupid. I recommend you stay away from popular things in the future; it will make you appear more smart, as right now you appear to be quite loving retarded.
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ElGroucho posted:LOL if you think I am going to read some twat's thesis on a not that great pop song from 60 years ago hey i read your insanely stupid post about how mick jagger could outfuck muddy waters or whatever dont be throwing around the idiot word like you dont already have your pants on your head look yall here is how it is when criticizing music say i dont like x thing it is not to my taste or some variation dont try to gently caress with the actual facts because afaict goons have no souls or genitals or inclination to artistic expression whatsoever and can only in a discussion of music say the opposite of what would be plainly true to a person with even the small amount of musical knowledge a fat and dumb child might get sleeping through middle school band this is what i have observed in this thread fanged wang fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Jan 7, 2015 |
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Stick Figure Mafia posted:i know someone already posted it but 
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I Might Be Adam posted:Ringo was all about the feel and groove and over the years, I've grown to see his talent but yeah, he would not cut it as a studio drummer. People have said Ringo was always on point in the studio and it was the others screwing up.
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HollisBrown posted:Only a Beatles fan could argue that music is quantifiable and the Beatles can be mathematically proven to be the best. L loving OL You think some idiot fucker wrote and did all their music. You are a nazi
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Irradiation posted:People have said Ringo was always on point in the studio and it was the others screwing up. Lol ringo's solos
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fanged wang posted:still waiting on ur epic soundcloud bro show me the sick penny lane harmonies I'm still waiting for your equations.
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Lol if you like the loving Beatles more than Beefheart.
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 i guess no one will ever be able to step to my knowledge of music composition or rock history it is lonely as the smartest man on the forums
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There's a marked difference between not liking the Beatles, which is fine, and denying their skill. It's akin to being a global warming denier. On the one side you have a huge number of people who know what they are talking about and on the other a bunch of idiots. Don't be an idiot. It's fine that you don't like the Beatles. Just accept you don't understand why they are so great and move on. It's not them, it's you. And that's totally fine. But don't be an idiot.
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Waltzing Along posted:There's a marked difference between not liking me, which is fine, and denying my skill. It's akin to being a global warming denier. On the one side you have a huge number of people who know what they are talking about and on the other a bunch of idiots. I don't like you
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ethanol posted:I don't like you I guess that makes you an idiot. No offense.
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Reer posted:The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved. Can you even name more than like 3 of their songs?
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Waltzing Along posted:There's a marked difference between not liking the Beatles, which is fine, and denying their skill. It's akin to being a global warming denier. On the one side you have a huge number of people who know what they are talking about and on the other a bunch of idiots. So what you're saying is: It's okay to not like the Beatles but you still have to think they are the greatest band of all time. More awesome logic from Beatles fans.
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