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fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
lmao yall are retarded

even the beatles super early pop boy band poo poo is crazy complex melodically and harmonically for pop music and paul mccartney was the best singer, guitar player, bassist, and drummer in the beatles. there are plenty of reasons to not like the beatles but attacking their musicianship or composition.. lmao.

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fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp

MegaGatts posted:

Nah, believe it or not, one direction, nsync, and all the other teen heart throb bands aren't bad at what they do. But keep going on how they aren't actually a band and how the beatles are. People like you are exactly who I was laughing at. You are so unself aware it's hilarious.





i dont bust out the literally word a lot but you're literally freakin stupid as hell

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
so basically bye bye bye has 3 chords but the verse and prechorus are one chord with a nursery rhyme melody for small girl brains in it and girl which is one of john's bob dylan ripoff campfire dude songs has like a billion fuckin chords in it that is the basic gist of the sheet music i posted if it is an arcane thing to you

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
i have proven conclusively that the level of composition shown by the beatles exceeds that of 90s boyband n sync and hope you are all very impressed

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp

you would think???? didnt know i was posting with a bunch of deaf people and now im going to read all their posts in hilarious deaf people voices

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
dave navarro ws the best rhcp guitar guy

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
edm is just a guy checking his email on his macbook on a stage with dumb sunglasses or hat on probably

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
that guy from radiohead sounds like a gay kitten

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
i was kidding about dave navarro but yeah ja>rhcp by a lot

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
rhcp are kind of like limp bizkit in that there's the one member everyone likes even tho the band is terrible

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp

I Might Be Adam posted:

Which limp bizkit member is likable?

everybody likes that guy with the monkey mask for some reason even though his solo stuff is bad he's the frusciante of limp bizkit

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp

MegaGatts posted:

No you didn't and no they're not. They are an average band.

- he says, in a retarded sounding deaf guy voice

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp

MegaGatts posted:

So just cause I'm deaf I can't have opinions? loving abilist.

sorry all i hear is fmhn fmuh fmuh duh!!!!

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp

Damo posted:

also the beatles were pioneers in the recording studio, doing and discovering poo poo no one had done before, techniques used until this day and that was with only 4 and 8 track tape machines past the point that 16/24 tracks existed because britain didn't get that tech until much later than americans



that was mostly george martin like john was being a crybaby one day unnhhhgghhh i hate double tracking vocals whine whine so george martin designed the first automatic doubler using a tape delay to shut him up

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
someone post the yoko chuck berry vid

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrJz9Dh5MsM

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp

HollisBrown posted:

lol at anyone who thinks that any member of the Beatles themselves actually had anything to do with the production of their albums. George Martin was the Beatles and will go down as one of the greatest producers in history.

Also lol at anyone that thinks there is anything clever or revolutionary about their songwriting. There the whole "Penny Lane" thing is just an easy trick that any freshmen music major already knows. Writing harmony isn't very hard. The human brain will try REALLY hard to make things sound good, and there is always a way to analyze a chord change to make it make sense.

The Beatles wrote a few cool songs, but so did about 10,000 other groups between now and then, at least most of those bands could actually play those songs live, unlike the Beatles who stopped even trying after 1965.

lol shut the gently caress up dude like you would've thought of that cool little parallel 4ths harmony in 8 days a week post ur soundcloud bitch

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
because the people who criticize the beatles are usually musically illiterate and also whiny kids as has been stated many times itt

not liking their songs is one thing but uh music is math and saying ignorant poo poo about their composition and musicianship just makes you sound retarded you can with a really rudimentary understanding of music see why they're considered some of the best songwriters ever

ringo was kind of a balls drummer and george never really got good at guitar and john's voice was kinda weak and pitchy a lot and they have some truly lovely songs in their catalogue and uh john was a real piece of poo poo a lot of the time and paul had no sense of shame or dignity whatsoever sometimes wrt his "fruity little songs" as george called them and it's really hard to think of ways that the beatles were bad or unskilled or were not making interesting artistic choices for most of their career. uh, let it be is terrible imo.

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp

HollisBrown posted:

Only a Beatles fan could argue that music is quantifiable and the Beatles can be mathematically proven to be the best. L loving OL

still waiting on ur epic soundcloud bro show me the sick penny lane harmonies

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
the trick of the beatles composition and harmony especially the early stuff was to take accidentals and weird intervals and make them sound really natural and catchy a trick paul learned from the ragtime standards he grew up learning

i picked 8 days a week earlier because it's a famous example of weird as gently caress harmonies here is a good breakdown of why it is a crazy pop song

http://www.recmusicbeatles.com/public/files/awp/edaw.2.html

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp

ElGroucho posted:

While the Rolling Stones the Kinks and other British bands were doing American Rock and Roll better, sleazier and nastier than Americans, the Beatles were busy adding pennywhistles and references to fish and chips and the queen

gently caress that noise

lol yes those scrawny british fops were doing rock and roll sleazier and nastier than the actual hard as gently caress black people who invented it wtf is wrong with yall

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp

ElGroucho posted:

LOL if you think I am going to read some twat's thesis on a not that great pop song from 60 years ago

idiot

hey i read your insanely stupid post about how mick jagger could outfuck muddy waters or whatever dont be throwing around the idiot word like you dont already have your pants on your head



look yall here is how it is when criticizing music say i dont like x thing it is not to my taste or some variation dont try to gently caress with the actual facts because afaict goons have no souls or genitals or inclination to artistic expression whatsoever and can only in a discussion of music say the opposite of what would be plainly true to a person with even the small amount of musical knowledge a fat and dumb child might get sleeping through middle school band this is what i have observed in this thread

fanged wang fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Jan 7, 2015

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
:sigh: i guess no one will ever be able to step to my knowledge of music composition or rock history it is lonely as the smartest man on the forums

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp

HollisBrown posted:

So what you're saying is: It's okay to not like the Beatles but you still have to think they are the greatest band of all time. More awesome logic from Beatles fans.

all you've said so far is that it's easy to write better melodies and harmonies than the beatles and you wont post your soundcloud for everyone to admire your effortlessly beautiful songcraft for some reason

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp

HollisBrown posted:

Music critics don't give a poo poo about the Beatles

it's ok to not like the beatles honey it's ok to not like their songs ok buddy you can feel your feelings and it's not wrong to feel the way you do it's not your fault

when you talk about quantifiable stuff like the collaboration between the band and their producer or how their harmonies and melodies were deceptively complex and very difficult to imitate you're taking your very strong subjective feelings into the realm of objective fact and in doing so being wrong as gently caress and sounding stupid as hell

i understand that hollisbrown does not like the beatles and i understand that hollisbrown has a really hard time articulating why he doesn't like them and it is all very interesting but if you actually do have something not totally fuckin retarded to say about their songwriting i'd love to hear it! big music nerd here! you're clearly some kind of insane genius composer from the way you've been talking and heck i would love to hear, from the master, exactly how the music fails to meet your expectations and maybe some comparable bands from the same era that did the same thing but better, that would be really cool!

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
big thanks hollisbrown for giving me a space to talk about why i like the beatles so much! heck i could go on about em for hours, already did even!

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
what's cool about the paul is during the abbey road end sequence they did a guitar battle and it was revealed that paul is the sickest picker in the band by far

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp

HollisBrown posted:

dude I'm in my refractory period right now, as much as I'd like to cum again you're gonna have to wait

haha dude is fuckin stupid about a thing, throws a tantrum, claims to be shooting jizz out his dick.

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
i dont like rubber soul

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp

HollisBrown posted:

haha, yeah I threw the temper tantrum

This entire thread is Beatles fans throwing a giant temper tantrum people disagree with them

How can you read this: "The Beatles were not a terribly interesting band, but their fans were and still are an interesting phenomenon. I can only name religious fundamentalists as annoying (and as threatening) as Beatles fans, and as persevering in sabotaging anyone who dares express an alternate opinion of their faith."

And not even have a tingle of self awareness.

babe i said it's ok if you dont like the beatles totally cool w me

you just tried to say a bunch of really bold and stupid poo poo about composition and couldn't back it up when you got called out for not knowing at all what you're talking about and i guess if this was a conversation about manga or the star wars eu it would be cool for you to not know anything about what you're talking about but music is p cool and a neat thing to know and you should look into it due to your very strong passions about it

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp

HollisBrown posted:

and btw I was a music major, I've analyzed hundreds of pieces from Bach to Chopin to Wagner to Cage

The Beatles were technically proficient songwriters who removed any edge and blackness from rock music and turned it into whitewashed bubblegum then into pseudo-intellectual faux psychedelic drivel. Lots of bands did the same thing, but lots of those bands could back it up with musicianship.

1965

America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI1EN6GCGc0

Britain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiI1LK1nd4A

Music isn't math you retard. Complexity doesn't equal quality.

oh beatles harmonies are complex now i thought they are super simple that everyone can do

you are 100% correct the beatles are not an r&b duo??? what the gently caress did they teach you in music school???

it's not about complexity it is about creativity and no one was or is doing, for example, this:

code:
	
          Eight days a  week  I  lo- o- o- o- ove you
   Paul:  E     E    F# E     D  E   D  E  D  E D B
   John:  A     A    B  A     A  B   A  B  A  B A F#

          Eight days a  week  are not enough to show I  care
   Paul:  E     E    F# E     D   E   D  E   D  E    E  G
   John:  G#    G#   A  G#    B   B   B  B   B  C#   C# E
those are insane weird harmonies for a pop song, at the time or now. i dont have to explain to you why that's a weird and cool harmony, because you lol have a degree in music.

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
aic used parallel 4ths alot bc they sound creepy as hell, it's a weird harmony for a 60s pop song. just a cool creative artistic thing in a dumb pop song about not needing nothing but love babe.

it's cool, to me, because it's using dorky white people music to express bluesiness without being second rate blues. it is the actual birth of rock and roll. the song is in d and it expresses the hendrix chord major/minor blurriness with the II and IV which gives it a bluesy edge and then it resolves into the big gay D. not too threatening, but with a little edge.

stones and zep et al they took blues and they hosed it up and tried to imbue it with small dick foppish british kid swagger. it's ballsy, for white people rock and roll music, it's p fuckin laughable compared to actual authentic blues. the beatles were more genre ambiguous and experimental from the start.

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
i think it was nice of op to give me a place to sperg with wild abandon about the beatles. thank you op.

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp

HollisBrown posted:

You still seem pretty mad.

And yea I totally started a GBS thread to have a serious debate about the musical credentials the Beatles, not to rile up the easiest to rile up fan base is music. I got almost 10 pages of proof that says that Beatles fans are the worst.

it's kinda 10 pages of proof that when you say something retarded ppl show up to call you a retard, it's an easy way to assert my intellectual superiority and bolster my self esteem and heck it's not every day you learn you have better ears than a man who has analyzed bach and chopin!!!

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
lots of good cogent criticisms of the beatles and their music to be made "durr they suck at harmony" is p much exactly like saying jordan sucked at dunks op make a thread about how jordan sucked at dunks and look at all the insane bulls fans that show up to pitch a fit lol!

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
i would let paul finger blast my anus sure, he's a goddamn beatle. ringo too if he's down

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
it's a really good parody of ragtime, like a ween song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKkjSzdwL4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J6NWReYzWE

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp

memy posted:

The Beatles didn't suck at harmony but lol if you think they were the Michael Jordan of harmony.

The beach boys were the Michael Jordan of harmony, idiot fucker

lol no the beach boys did not do better doo wop harmonies than the thousands of black groups that invented it

why do beatles haters hate the blacks so much

the beatles invented rock harmony and are the jordan of harmony in rock music

fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
i hope everyone is getting a good long look at how crazy racist hollisbrown and memy are, unabashed bigots both.

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fanged wang
Nov 1, 2014

by Ralp
i would beat up op in a fight about the beatles

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