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Snatch Duster posted:You greedy fucks are also not considering folks that are on commission and work against their wage. Lmao someone arguing that car salesmen are a boon for society itt.
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PneumonicBook posted:Lmao someone arguing that car salesmen are a boon for society itt. it's an agent provocateur stirring up the crowd think of the dmv workers, the door to door salesmen, those guys at the intersection with a squeegee yearning to breath free
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Jan 7, 2015 20:36
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Hobohemian posted:Yeah, I've only had real jobs that weren't reliant on swindling as much money from customers without their knowing as possible. I wonder why most people loving hate salesmen and can't wait for the day they are all replaced by robots? What could it possibly be about them they dislike? hahahahahahahahaa you can't be serious. If you think that about sales then you p dumb. Unless you work for the government, your job is reliant by the success of your companies sales force and marketing team. This is why salesmen make 3x more, on average, then anyone else in their company, of course c level execs make more but they are worth it. Stay the drone bud.
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Jan 7, 2015 20:36
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now we just need jst0rm in here and we got a stew going
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Jan 7, 2015 20:37
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:it's an agent provocateur stirring up the crowd intersection squeegy dudes around here have some serious hustle. worth a dollar just to make sitting at a light on slauson go faster.
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PneumonicBook posted:Lmao someone arguing that car salesmen are a boon for society itt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivGF-wj5GpQ Explain to me how a car salesman isn't worth ~$75K and why Dramane over at Toy R Us is bigger contributor to society and should be paid more then $8 per hour/
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Jan 7, 2015 20:39
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due to The Internet I hear car salesman swindling is down to historic lows but people still seem to have this weird attachment to haggling for some reason so they can feel like they got a good deal
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:it's an agent provocateur stirring up the crowd DMV folks get paid what they are worth. Your door to door mag salesman are scammers. Not a real company just guys taking your money. The hobos that squeegee are misguided Pete Campbells.
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Jan 7, 2015 20:41
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im unsurprised this dude is in sales
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Jan 7, 2015 20:41
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Monkey Fracas posted:due to The Internet I hear car salesman swindling is down to historic lows HEH HEH I beat that greedy car sales man, I bought my new Audi for $34.5k instead of $35.5k. gently caress him. Meanwhile car salesman doesn't give a poo poo about the price, just wants the sale. Consumers are more greedy then salesman, fyi
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Jan 7, 2015 20:42
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Snatch Duster posted:DMV folks get paid what they are worth. actually magazine people may well be victims of kidnapping and you should always offer to let them use your cell phone to call home
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Jan 7, 2015 20:43
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Snatch Duster posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivGF-wj5GpQ Go to truecar.com. Look at price. Go to dealer, pay price. Done. I guess hovering awkwardly while a customer fills out paperwork is worth 75k a year. That makes sense.
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Jan 7, 2015 20:43
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this dude is the graey alien Chronicles of Riddick post but with The Boiler Room
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Hobohemian posted:Go to truecar.com. Look at price. Go to dealer, pay price. Done. I guess hovering awkwardly while a customer fills out paperwork is worth 75k a year. That makes sense. lol if that is how you buy a car, then I don't know what to tell you. Car sales guys make $75k on average because of commission and manufactor bonuses. Not salary you drone.
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paranoid randroid posted:this dude is the graey alien Chronicles of Riddick post but with The Boiler Room ayy lmao
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Jan 7, 2015 20:45
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paranoid randroid posted:this dude is the graey alien Chronicles of Riddick post but with The Boiler Room ill palm slam a VHS into your stupid rear end hole
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Haverchuck posted:actually magazine people may well be victims of kidnapping and you should always offer to let them use your cell phone to call home That is true, but I don't trust them since they did after all get swindled into this job and area.
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Jan 7, 2015 20:45
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Your Dead Gay Son posted:Eventually people will be paid to not work cause they gently caress up too much and robots pay for themselves thats what economists like keynes predicted back in the day as productivity climbed but it turns out: you will be replaced, and get nothing, and join the Sharing Economy hustling for unlicenced handyman work and braindead mechanical turk gopher jobs making $4.50 an hour
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Jan 7, 2015 20:46
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Snatch Duster posted:lol if that is how you buy a car, then I don't know what to tell you. How long do you think they're gonna be paying that out when they realize computers do the job better and faster and people like them more?Amazon stock boys should get paid commission for every order they fill according to your logic.
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Jan 7, 2015 20:46
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itt "my profession requires talent and actually provides useful things for the world, unlike all the other professions" forever
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Jan 7, 2015 20:47
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Snatch Duster posted:That is true, but I don't trust them since they did after all get swindled into this job and area. they're very stupid, to be sure, so you have to be wary
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Ambrose Burnside posted:thats what economists like keynes predicted back in the day as productivity climbed but it turns out: you will be replaced, and get nothing, and join the Sharing Economy hustling for handyman jobs and braindead mechanical turk gopher jobs making $4.50 an hour
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please note that $4.50 is over three times the median task payout per hour for mechanical turk work, i am being exceedingly generous here
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Jan 7, 2015 20:50
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Hobohemian posted:How long do you think they're gonna be paying that out when they realize computers do the job better and faster and people like them more?Amazon stock boys should get paid commission for every order they fill according to your logic. I think you are functionally retard about how business is done. Most sales folk are b2b not b2c. There aren't many b2c sales roles that sales pros will take, only car sales since the pay is competitive to selling new EHR software or whatever in a b2b role. For all considered purchases, like cars, the need for a salesman will always be necessary. EDIT: Also, do you not consider the one man e-com business that list products on Amazon as a salesman? Cuz he is.
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Jan 7, 2015 20:51
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Snatch Duster posted:Nothing in the world gets sold without a salesman. oh my god lol
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King Vidiot posted:That isn't why people want the minimum wage increased. They want the minimum wage increased because it currently doesn't match the present-day cost of living. Cost of living has skyrocketed and minimum wage has barely budged. so when wendy's labor cost goes up 5-10%, they're just going to make less money about it? the CEO would get fired for doing that. the costs are going to get passed on to the customer, increasing cost of living to eat spicy chicken
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Snatch Duster posted:I think you are functionally retard about how business is done. Lol. I wonder if this grandpa even knows how to use a computer. Did you go to best buy to get a kindle so the sales men there could tell you all the features for you to consider before purchasing? Hey guys, I wanted some headphones so I went online, found a few, compared them and bought one. I'm a salesmen now, hope I don't get fired from my other job for moonlighting.
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Snatch Duster posted:I think you are functionally retard about how business is done. 
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Roargasm posted:so when wendy's labor cost goes up 5-10%, they're just going to make less money about it? the CEO would get fired for doing that. the costs are going to get passed on to the customer, increasing cost of living to eat spicy chicken the cost of living is already going up while the minimum wage has stagnated, that's what the entire idea of increasing minimum wage is about. how do people not get this.
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Roargasm posted:so when wendy's labor cost goes up 5-10%, they're just going to make less money about it? the CEO would get fired for doing that. the costs are going to get passed on to the customer, increasing cost of living to eat spicy chicken which will hurt the poors who still have a job the most but it's okay, mission accomplished every1
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Cubey posted:the cost of living is already going up while the minimum wage has stagnated, that's what the entire idea of increasing minimum wage is about. how do people not get this. because the companies determining how much it costs to live are incentivized to charge as much as you will pay to eat poo poo and not a cent less.
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why should companies be forced to pay more for labor than the labor is worth?
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Irom posted:why should companies be forced to pay more for labor than the labor is worth? why would companies pay as much as labor is worth without being forced to
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Roargasm posted:so when wendy's labor cost goes up 5-10%, they're just going to make less money about it? the CEO would get fired for doing that. the costs are going to get passed on to the customer, increasing cost of living to eat spicy chicken forcibly nationalize wendy's and its physical in-country assets, offering a one-time take-it-or-leave-it settlement to shareholders along with an assisted transition to creating new corporate entities for international assets that cant be physically seized to placate concerned interests abroad, dont let them pass those costs on and use the wendy's profit margin to stock the federal coffers what this nation needs is a Wendy's Stalin
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Hobohemian posted:Lol. I wonder if this grandpa even knows how to use a computer. Did you go to best buy to get a kindle so the sales men there could tell you all the features for you to consider before purchasing? lol no haha you p dumb man. how is $100 e book a considered purchase that can be solved by marketing? No sales prof is gonna focus on selling one single kindle or even care. Do you think your cashier when you buy groceries is a salesman? Probably cuz you are retarded.
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once again you guys should take a look at the most free, best and coolest countries in the world aka the countries in scandinavia and do whatever it is theyre doing
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Zzulu posted:once again you guys should take a look at the most free, best and coolest countries in the world aka the countries in scandinavia and do whatever it is theyre doing
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Jan 7, 2015 20:59
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Replace all minimum wage workers with murderous robots.
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Jan 7, 2015 20:59
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Yeah europe is so great except everyone lives in apartments and living faggy euro lives of worthlessness and hide behind the military might of americas massive dick so nah, i dont think i wanna go that route.
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Zzulu posted:once again you guys should take a look at the most free, best and coolest countries in the world aka the countries in scandinavia and do whatever it is theyre doing these tiny-rear end, densely populated culturally/climatically homogeneous European countryies still coasting off the plunder of a literal millenia of imperial adventures can pull it off, why cant we
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