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Rondette posted:The Mountaineers book has some excellent old photos in it which I will share with you , I won't dump them all in this post but try and have some sort of theme for each set. We'll start with Badasses from history- My favorite book of all those recommended in these threads has to be Into the Silence. The first half is one the best books I've ever read, an amazing read that takes you into the politics of early mountaineering, the mystic religions encountered, and the conflicts that unfolded therein. The 2nd half of the book is poo poo no one needs to know about Mallory, speculated details of Mallory's personal life (just how many men DID he sleep with? which lover gave him what STD?) followed by even more wild speculation about his 'fateful ascent.'
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Roki B posted:It's the partial pressure of oxygen, not absolute concentration which you fuckers should know, a la diffusion. There is not less oxygen by percentage. Well there's a lower percentage of oxygen in a given volume compared to a lower elevation, right? That's probably what people mean.
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Pingiivi posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtlwoX1YEmg what's the loving point, it's just a dirty-rear end scrub hole
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Hummingbirds posted:Well there's a lower percentage of oxygen in a given volume compared to a lower elevation, right? That's probably what people mean. Yes and then no. They don't. They are stupid.
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Jan 15, 2015 15:35
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Pick posted:what's the loving point, it's just a dirty-rear end scrub hole Eh, that looks pretty cozy actually. I can appreciate people who do poo poo like that, provided they are properly trained and know the risks. re: Canadian crazy woman: I'm pretty sure I remember reading a past thread with her in it, before she actually made the attempt. Impressed that she made it up, didn't think she would. I'm sure she's happy with it now. Oh wait.
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Jan 15, 2015 16:01
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Was there actually an active thread when the canadian woman was making the ascent/descent/death? I want to read people's "holy poo poo" reactions when the news that she died broke and the build-up to it.
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univbee posted:Was there actually an active thread when the canadian woman was making the ascent/descent/death? I want to read people's "holy poo poo" reactions when the news that she died broke and the build-up to it. Unfortunately it looks like that years thread began in response to the deaths that happened a couple of days earlier which included Canadian lady. I think people found all the other stuff subsequent to that so there was never any buildup. It's a shame because that would be something amazing to read.
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Jan 15, 2015 16:09
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Hmh yeah, I read the start of the 2012 thread again and I most likely just read that. So I'd only known about her when she was already dead. My bad.
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Pingiivi posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtlwoX1YEmg Hey, at least if anything happens you're already pre-buried. Saves a lot of hassle on the funerary arrangements.
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Gabriel Pope posted:Hey, at least if anything happens you're already pre-buried. Saves a lot of hassle on the funerary arrangements. Also maybe some other guy will try to get your corpse and then die next to you!
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I can't believe people give Yates poo poo for cutting the rope. I would have cut the rope like a million years prior, guy was drat near insane how hard he tried to save a doomed man with a broken leg.
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Jan 15, 2015 16:54
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Is it illegal to take a body off Everest if it's clear no one wants it
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GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:Is it illegal to take a body off Everest if it's clear no one wants it goons will do anything for free jerky
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Rondette posted:ha, I'd forgotten about that. Fair play to him for seeing the funny side. I've read no way down, into thin air, and buried in the sky as well - what would you recommend next?
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canadianclassic posted:This doesn't even look cool or interesting or fun I started feeling claustrophobic just watching that. Bishop posted:ive done around 25 deeper than 200ft and a lot approaching that. Deep diving and cave diving are two somewhat separate things. You can deep dive or cave dive or both. In my experience a lot of cave dives are deep and long enough that we use mixed gas ( non air- oxygen nitrogen helium) mixes, and have to follow a decompression schedule, meaning you have to switch gasses and hang out at certain depths This reminds me of some of the stuff I read in a Choose Your Own Adventure book about deep-sea diving when I was a kid. Some of the ways you could die in that book were terrifying to 8-year-old me. raditts fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jan 15, 2015 |
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Gorman Thomas posted:Has anyone every through hiked from sea level to the summit because that would be cool as hell. And done one better, from the lowest point on land to the peak of Everest. Dominic Falkner was my professor at College and led the team who achieved it. quote:In 2006 he led the team of fifteen exceptional individuals from the lowest point on Earth to the highest. Starting on the shores of the Dead Sea and finishing on the summit of Everest, the dangerous 8000km journey challenged every extreme. The efforts of the expedition are well recorded and have appeared both as a film and book. The expedition was called EverestMax, and for anyone interested the book he wrote is called 'The Longest Climb' and is a solid read for people interested in this kind of stuff. He was in the SAS (Reserves) with Bear Grylls who he absolutely hates for being a total showboating twat. Here's his cool website.
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Bishop posted:Ok so indulge me for a post. I'm a minor cave diver, only a few dozen under my belt, my thing is being a deep ocean wreck diver. I know a few people i am a deep seas diver as well cold water diver night diver etc. i will never cave dive
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Brillo_Pad posted:Savage summit was really bad imo. Disappointing because the subject (history of women climbing k2) is very interesting. I just couldn't stand the writing. I really really enjoyed Dark Summit, it is about the 2006 disaster and I found it utterly absorbing, a good page turner in the same vein as Into Thin Air. I didn't have too much of a problem with Savage Summit, but that was mainly because I found the subject interesting.
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Pingiivi posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtlwoX1YEmg Ugggghhh, that's just... no. No way. It's not even scenic, it's just mushing yourself through tight spaces looking at your tanks.
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Baumann posted:That still doesn't really make sense in this case. Mallory did things that people thought were impossible while climbing. Why would it be out of his ability to do a climb like that? The thing with sending a climbing route is you can either do it or you can't. It's not possible to "sort of" or climb a route. You have this at all route grades where the hardest route you can climb is possible but the next highest grade is not climbable. That said, 5.9 to 5.10 is pretty much the separation from something a reasonably fit person could do to something that takes skill and the right equipment. Climbing equipment and especially footwear, which is tremendously important, was totally poo poo by modern standards until like the 1980's. Also 5.10 was the highest possible grade for awhile so some routes that were rated 5.10 a long time ago and haven't been reclassified might be called 5.10 but would actually be classified much higher today. FreakerByTheSpeaker posted:From the article: . At around 8,000 feet, our lungs stop adjusting to the thin air, and you almost permanently feel out of breath. That's kind of disingenuous though. Your entire cardiovascular system adjusts for the altitude. Your heart figures out it needs to work harder and gets stronger and more efficient. That's why it takes weeks to really acclimatize to very high altitude. edit: maybe you were being facetious. old-timey newspaper gal fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Jan 15, 2015 |
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^Yeah, I was commenting on "gamer journalist talks about what nature is like." I've lived at 7,000 feet for a brief spell, and really enjoy hiking. Also, everyone in Colorado is super fit and sexy, and they spend every day scampering up and down rocks, smoking weed, and listening to bluegrass. Man, I miss Colorado. Rondette posted:Oh, they also ran a pre-release competition in which you could win a trip to Everest and play the game on the mountain. From the article: . At around 8,000 feet, our lungs stop adjusting to the thin air, and you almost permanently feel out of breath. Everyone walking around Aspen is just gasping like a fish. This is why no one in Colorado is fit. FreakerByTheSpeaker fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Jan 15, 2015 |
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To tie technical diving in with mountaineering, I can think of 14 courses I've taken, with cards to show them.. If someone wants to know if I can do decompression in a cave I've got cards that specifically prove that. Why doesn't mountaineering have the same sort of thing? If there was something like that it would be harder for someone to ~follow their dreams~ and make Everest their first mountain
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i think everest is really, really interesting, as well as cave diving and such, just from the perspective of reading about something i'd never do; i mountain ski but that's about as close as i get, and i hate caves what i dont understand though is that if so many people have already climbed and conquered this mountain (to the point where there are legit issues with trash and lines) why is there still such congestion? you'd think the folks who are after the status of it all would be looking at k2 with hungry eyes, given its notorious reputation. have the amounts of people going to everest only increased over the past 10 years or so? seeing the rates of attempts on each of the eight-thousanders compared against each other would be cool
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A Spider Covets posted:i think everest is really, really interesting, as well as cave diving and such, just from the perspective of reading about something i'd never do; i mountain ski but that's about as close as i get, and i hate caves Because you can pay some to figuratively carry you up Everest, i don't think they offer that service on K-2. Also, 77% of attempts to climb Everest have append since 2000.
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jhorphear posted:Because you can pay some to figuratively carry you up Everest, i don't think they offer that service on K-2. Also, 77% of attempts to climb Everest have append since 2000. poo poo i didnt think it was that much. no wonder they're having so many problems. also that makes sense @ k2. i don't doubt it's still insanely hard to go up everest even with a sherpa but that's gotta attract people who wouldn't look twice otherwise. e: VV christ
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A Spider Covets posted:i think everest is really, really interesting, as well as cave diving and such, just from the perspective of reading about something i'd never do; i mountain ski but that's about as close as i get, and i hate caves Yea its only exploded in the last 20 years or so, but still was pretty popular compared to other 8000'ers. People go there because its EVEREST and has a comparatively huge tourist infrastructure built around it. If most of these people went to K2 without that they would just die right away. Also your rich colleagues won't understand how amazing you are if you tell them you climbed Shishapangma. 
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jhorphear posted:Also, 77% of attempts to climb Everest have append since 2000. Gotta get that sweet facebook profile pic
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Pick posted:I can't believe people give Yates poo poo for cutting the rope. I would have cut the rope like a million years prior, guy was drat near insane how hard he tried to save a doomed man with a broken leg. I don't get this. What exactly was he supposed to have done? Partner breaks his leg on the mountain and can't climb, so he starts lowering him down the mountain to save him. Then they get stuck in a storm and can't see poo poo so he doesn't realize he lowered him into a pit. Either they both sit there and freeze to death or he cuts the rope and hopefully one of them lives. The choice seems pretty obvious. I mean it'd be debatable about what really happened if only Simon came back, but they both did. And Joe completely defends him when he's the poor bastard that got cut off. Maybe you could criticize other stuff about their climb, but the response to Joe breaking his leg seemed appropriate.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F2SJS6B1wQ
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cat everest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_zRPWyATZw
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I'm watching this documentary about the canadian lady. My favorite part is her family member saying she was always saying "Call a taxi, I can't walk, I can't move." I guess she went out the way she lived, not able to walk anywhere. Edit: poo poo, that guy wasn't kidding about the video where they lift her corpse up. That's crazy. Cojawfee fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Jan 15, 2015 |
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If you want to climb a mountain that's doable without anything other than hiking boots, in about 45 minutes or so (2+ hours from sea level? maybe 15 mins from not sea level if you run up, as some people I know can do?) but is MORE DEADLY THAN EVEREST, go to Cape Town and climb table mountain. It's killed more people than everest. Everest: 219 deaths since 1920 Table Mountain: 225 deaths since 1920. http://trailmag.co.za/watch-step-table-mountain/
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redreader posted:If you want to climb a mountain that's doable without anything other than hiking boots, in about 45 minutes or so (2+ hours from sea level? maybe 15 mins from not sea level if you run up, as some people I know can do?) but is MORE DEADLY THAN EVEREST, go to Cape Town and climb table mountain. It's killed more people than everest. cool link but i did learn this from the comments quote:There is nothing "misleading" about 225 deaths.... Vs everest, the handful of people heading to everest is taking a SUBSTANTIALLY bugger risk being there; and its not just summit attempts. The obvious message here is, just because you can see the city lights and hundreds of other people does not make it safe. I bet Canadian flag woman didn't even take lube.
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dont bother with high crimes unless you wanna read the author whining and defending his dumb as gently caress wife for 200 pages.
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Some company was installing 3G or something.
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I assume if you pay enough you can use satellite uplinks at the camps because I thought the youngest-oops-the-sherpas-all-died-so-now-I'll-be-the-youngest-white-Australian girl was posting updates from the mountain when she still thought the sherpas were going to be cool with 1/3 of their friends dying and would get right back to rigging the mountain up for rich dumb foreigners.
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YeahDavidLeeRoth posted:dont bother with high crimes unless you wanna read the author whining and defending his dumb as gently caress wife for 200 pages. Yeah, seconding this. They sound like such pissants.
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