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Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing Black Sorcery

Scarf posted:

What would lead you to doubt they could?

It's entirely possible, as much as it's possible for any major team to beat any other major team.
There's no argument to made for it beyond the theoretical. Every team TCU beat finished the season with 4+ losses.

Xombie fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Jan 13, 2015

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Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing Black Sorcery

Scarf posted:

Did you watch TCU play at all this year? They woodshedded just as many teams as Ohio State, and often more severely and had similar close-calls.

All of which, again, were teams that finished the season with 4+ losses.

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Oh, and they didn't lose to Virginia Tech...

They also didn't beat Michigan State, Alabama, and Oregon. Nor did they shut out Wisconsin, who had a better record this season than any team TCU beat. They DID lose to Baylor, who would have gone to the playoff had Ohio State not been chosen instead.

Again, I'm saying TCU is not a bad team. They are a great team. It's entirely possible that they could have beaten Ohio State. But there is nothing on their resume that makes them a clearly better team than OSU. There's nothing leading people to believe that it would happen other than wanting to believe it.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing Black Sorcery

sexy mouse posted:

I don't get why people mentioning the VT loss. The only thing the team that lost to VT and the one that played last night have in common are the uniforms.

I don't get how people can reconcile the idea that OSU is worse than TCU for losing to VT, with the idea TCU is better than Baylor after losing to Baylor.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing Black Sorcery
Ohio State is scheduled for a home-and-home with TCU in 2018/19.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing Black Sorcery
There is seriously no argument for taking Ohio State out of the CFP that doesn't also discount TCU via their loss to Baylor.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing Black Sorcery

Strobe posted:

Baylor isn't Virginia Tech.

Which is why I didn't say they were. If you take out Ohio State because of their loss to VT, there is no argument for putting TCU in ahead of Baylor, who they lost to.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing Black Sorcery

Thoguh posted:

Huh? Ohio State had by far the worst loss among them, Alabama, Oregon, and TCU.

Which pretty clearly shows the fault in trying to discount teams based on one-off losses in the early season. The point is that if you make these losses matter more, then the logic should carry to deciding between two teams who actually played against each other. Ergo, Baylor over TCU for #4.

Xombie fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Jan 13, 2015

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing Black Sorcery

JonathonSpectre posted:

I don't know how you can see the ratings for the playoff games this year and not think ESPN will do everything in their power to get to 8 as soon as they possibly can. Is there any legal or contractual things keeping it from happening next year? It's basically a license to print a completely-guaranteed ungodly amount of money and from what I've seen that is something they really like.

The primary pushback you will see is from the major athletic departments and teams themselves who don't like the idea of adding another game without a big payoff in return. You're asking teams that think themselves likely to be in the top 4 anyway to play another game to get to the championship. This was a big hurdle for the playoff to start with. Like the playoff now, you won't see anyone coming around until they get shut out of it for a few years. The fact that the #4 ranked team won it this year will certainly get the ball rolling on some #5/#6 ranked teams saying that they could have won it, though.

You aren't going to be seeing the major players really pushing for this until a few undisputed P5 conference winners shut out of the playoff a few years in a row. And you certainly won't see people pushing for it just to accommodate the Big 12 being babies about not having a proper conference championship. You'll see that change before you see an 8 team playoff.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing Black Sorcery

JT Jag posted:

Some teams might lose good. Some times might win bad. The argument of Ohio State versus TCU was not good losses versus bad wins, however. It was a bad loss, singular, and multiple good wins versus a good loss, singular, and what was perceived as "bad wins". The team with the better wins on its resume was more impressive to the committee than the team with the better loss. If Ohio State hadn't blown the gently caress out of Wisconsin, TCU probably would have gotten in.

No, because TCU's "good loss" was against a team from their own conference with the same record as them. Even if Ohio State had lost to Wisconsin, the committee would have put in Baylor. They made that clear by ranking Baylor above them.

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Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing Black Sorcery

anne frank fanfic posted:

the best feeling is probably when everyone hates your team cause you just won a championship

No, the best feeling is everyone already hating you and then winning a championship.


Neodoomium posted:

The best thing to ever come out of Ohio was Charles Woodson.

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