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Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:



What is Triple J?

Triple J is a nationally broadcast Australian radio station that focuses on an audience between 18-30. It's primary music focus is on independent music and is credited with launching the music career of Ben Harper as well as a number of Australian musicians such as Missy Higgins, Grinspoon, Killing Heidi and Vance Joy.

The Hottest 100 is an annual music poll based on votes from Triple J listeners that has been running since 1993. The songs that are listed must have come from the year in question although covers are also allowed. Covers have gained more prominence on the list since the emergence of Like a Version which is a segment on Triple J where artists come in and perform live, acoustic versions of some of their favourite songs.

PREVIOUS Winners


1993. Dennis Leary- rear end in a top hat (First year that songs had to come from that year)
1994. The Cranberries- Zombie
1995. Oasis- Wonderwall
1996. Spiderbait- Buy me a Pony (First Australian song to top the Hottest 100)
1997. The Whitlams- No Aphrodisiac
1998. The Offspring- Pretty Fly for a White Guy
1999. Powderfinger- These Days
2000. Powderfinger- My Happiness
2001. Alex Lloyd- Amazing
2002. Queens of the Stone Age- No One Knows
2003. Jet- Are You Gonna Be My Girl (Powderfinger has three songs voted into top 10, first time this happens)
2004. Franz Ferninand- Take Me Out
2005. Bernard Fanning- Wish You Well (Fanning hits 1st for the third time, was previous winner as frontman of Powderfinger)
2006. Augie March- One Crowded Hour
2007. Muse- Knights of Cydonia (beats Straight Lines by Silverchair by only 14 votes)
2008. Kings of Leon- Sex on Fire
Hottest 100 of all Time (2009). Nirvana- Smells like Teen Spirit
2009. Mumford & Sons- Little Lion Man
2010. Angus & Julia Stone- Big Jet Plane
Australian Albums. Powderfinger- Odyssey Number 5
2011. Gotye ft Kimbra- Somebody that I used to know
2012. Macklemore and Ryan Lewis- Thrift Shop
20 years of the Hottest 100. Oasis- Wonderwall
2013. Vance Joy- Riptide (first time that a Triple J Unearthed featured artist has topped the list)


Can I vote?

Yep, voting is open until Sunday the 20th for anyone that wants to vote even if they're not Australian. It allows write in ballots so if a song that you want to vote for (whether because it's good or because you want to vote for something ironically) isn't on there then you can put in your own choice.

http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/hottest100/14/

When is it?

It starts on the 26th on Jaunary from midday (AEDT). Australian listeners can catch it on 107.5fm and international listeners can catch it on the iphone/android app or online here
http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/media/listen.htm?show=listen

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bubblelubble
Feb 26, 2013

scribbled out the truth,
paying in naivety.
There's a "petition" circulating on Facebook to manually vote in Taylor Swift's "Shake It Off" and any other of her songs cos it wasn't included on the list. I like the sentiment - the gently caress you to snobby hipsters - but rly? Are there people who are actually going to vote that in? I mean, I like Taylor and her new album, but nah this is all kinda silly

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

bubblelubble posted:

There's a "petition" circulating on Facebook to manually vote in Taylor Swift's "Shake It Off" and any other of her songs cos it wasn't included on the list. I like the sentiment - the gently caress you to snobby hipsters - but rly? Are there people who are actually going to vote that in? I mean, I like Taylor and her new album, but nah this is all kinda silly

Something like that happened in the 2009 hottest 100 of all time because a lot of older types (like 30's-50's) who aren't in the usual demographic complaining about how kids these days won't vote for any good songs and were pushing hard to get a lot of older performers. For the record, this is what the top 50 looked like.

1 Smells Like Teen Spirit Nirvana
2 Killing in the Name Rage Against the Machine
3 Hallelujah Jeff Buckley
4 Love Will Tear Us Apart Joy Division
5 Paranoid Android Radiohead
6 Bohemian Rhapsody Queen
7 Last Goodbye Jeff Buckley
8 Under the Bridge Red Hot Chili Peppers
9 Everlong Foo Fighters
10 Stairway to Heaven Led Zeppelin
11 Imagine John Lennon
12 Wonderwall Oasis
13 Creep Radiohead
14 Bitter Sweet Symphony The Verve
15 Karma Police Radiohead
16 Wish You Were Here Pink Floyd
17 The Nosebleed Section Hilltop Hoods
18 Knights of Cydonia Muse
19 One Metallica
20 Seven Nation Army White Stripes
21 These Days Powderfinger
22 Teardrop Massive Attack
23 Throw Your Arms Around Me Hunters & Collectors
24 A Day in the Life The Beatles
25 Alive Pearl Jam
26 Thriller Michael Jackson
27 My Happiness Powderfinger
28 Fake Plastic Trees Radiohead
29 Where Is My Mind? Pixies
30 All Along the Watchtower Jimi Hendrix
31 Enter Sandman Metallica
32 Blue Monday New Order
33 Tomorrow Silverchair
34 Prisoner of Society The Living End
35 1979 The Smashing Pumpkins
36 Into My Arms Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
37 Stinkfist Tool
38 Mr. Brightside The Killers
39 Better Man Pearl Jam
40 Come as You Are Nirvana
41 Billie Jean Michael Jackson
42 Banquet Bloc Party
43 God Only Knows The Beach Boys
44 Hey Jude The Beatles
45 No One Knows Queens of the Stone Age
46 Epic Faith No More
47 Betterman The John Butler Trio
48 Sabotage Beastie Boys
49 Sweet Child o' Mine Guns N' Roses
50 Don't Dream It's Over Crowded House


While yes there is a significant lack of women on it (only two tracks with female vocalists made the list, both as guest artists on Massive Attack tracks) it's pretty much an alternative station and yet there's far more classic rockthen recent tracks. There were only 22 songs on the list that were released after the year 2000 and only 9 of them placed within the top 50.

Testekill fucked around with this message at 11:52 on Jan 14, 2015

luncheon meat
Oct 11, 2007

Brendan Jones, 42, Bendigo
I can't wait to hear my neighbours screaming over this all day before fighting in the evening.

The choices of songs to vote for kinda sucks. 2 tracks from Syro but like 9 different Skrillex tracks.

Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

I voted #Tay4Hottest100 and also for Die Antwoord, plus 8 good songs I guess?

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =
I don't know if Triple J was always poo poo or I'm just getting older, but I'm 30 and I just really feel that now Triple J just play poo poo because it's indie enough or fits EXACTLY the same sound of whatever they are pumping at the time regardless of quality. So you just get lovely horrible electronic bullshit on weekend nights, a lot of average indie rock/pop, BUT WATCH OUT NOTHING POPPY ENOUGH TO BE ON NOVA OR FOX, and a score of horrible Aussie hip hop.

I also love that poo poo like say, 50 Cent or Drake would never get played but like Jay-Z gets played for... reasons? And Kanye, they play him whenever he releases stuff. I just don't understand.

My pet peeve right now is that I think they included the new Bruno Mars track because it's Mark Ronson ft. Bruno Mars. I'm not saying Bruno Mars is good or not (I personally think he's fun to listen to) but surely Uptown Funk isn't so different than his other releases that that warrants triple J play and not something like Gorillas or any of his other tracks.

Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

Mark Ronson sucks and Australian hip-hop is cool and good, but I agree with the rest. Most of the shows are utter poo poo with boring hosts who play terrible music and Friday/Saturday nights is just bad electronic poo poo for 6 hours. There's more good music on it than on pretty much every other radio station though so maybe we should all just not listen to the radio

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
The funny thing is Taylor has been getting some play in Alternative press, she's... kinda in with the alternative pitchfork-crowd so it's a really weird campaign because some people are going "hur hur hur hur take that Triple J lol" while others honestly and earnestly believe that she released one of the best 100 songs in the last year.

teacup posted:

I don't know if Triple J was always poo poo or I'm just getting older,

You're getting older. I say this as someone who is very into alternative music right now, and even I can stomach a lot of what they play because I'm just not in the demographic any longer. For every song I dig they'll play three I roll my eyes and go "what is this?"

But then I remember I was the snotty kid calling in 15 years ago asking for them to play "Break Stuff" or "Nookie" and I remember what goes around, comes around.

edit: it should be noted the Hottest 100 exists today the way it does (played by Triple J in the last year, previous entries excluded) is they needed to come up with rules to stop "Love will tear us apart" from winning three years in a row. :allears:

algebra testes fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Jan 15, 2015

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

LordPants posted:

The funny thing is Taylor has been getting some play in Alternative press, she's... kinda in with the alternative pitchfork-crowd so it's a really weird campaign because some people are going "hur hur hur hur take that Triple J lol" while others honestly and earnestly believe that she released one of the best 100 songs in the last year.



Yeah, it would be one thing if Shake it Off sucked but, although I don't personally feel anything towards it, it's catchy and I know plenty of people that like it. Now if it was I knew you were trouble then yeah, that would be showing us because that's a pretty rubbish song.

DownItGoes
Jul 1, 2008

Bogan Krkic posted:

Mark Ronson sucks and Australian hip-hop is cool and good

Please correct both of these opinions, Bogan.

Smudgie Buggler
Feb 27, 2005

SET PHASERS TO "GRINDING TEDIUM"

DownItGoes posted:

Please correct both of these opinions, Bogan.

Oath. Australian hip hop is white dudes from Adelaide rapping about how hard they had to work to get where they are, which is never anywhere worth mentioning. It needs to die a quiet death already.

Bleep
Feb 7, 2004

Just voted #Tay4Hottest100, hope she wins! Haters can gently caress off!

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
Didn't Alanis Morissette keep getting on the hottest 100 back in the 90s?

E: to be fair her music is catchier then the stuff on JJJ these days. Most of it sounds like the same paint-by-numbers alternative stuff we were listening to 10 years ago.

NoNotTheMindProbe fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Jan 17, 2015

Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008

teacup posted:

I don't know if Triple J was always poo poo or I'm just getting older,

The former.1

1 see previous winners

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
I voted #Tay4Hottest100 mainly just to piss off a few people who care too much on Facebook, and it's been super fun. It is the countdown Australia deserves.

I haven't listened to Triple J in years, apart from occasionally when my brother has it on in the car. It's now 90% Aussie hiphop (the worst genre known to man, unless it's about hobbits) and that subclassification of indie pop where it's just an oh-so-precious-and-fragile-sounding female vocalist and an acousitc guitar (sometimes ukelele) and she's rounding her "R"s too much. All that loving music needs to loving die.


Testekill posted:

When is it?

It starts on the 26th on Jaunary from midday (AEDT). Australian listeners can catch it on 107.5fm

Uh only if you're in wherever the gently caress you're in. It has different frequencies in different cities, bro.

Hedrigall fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Jan 19, 2015

Creature
Mar 9, 2009

We've already seen a dead horse
The last good Hottest 100 was 2004, everything afterwards has been poo poo. It's no coincidence that I finished highschool in 2004 so was the core Triple J demographic up to then.

I try listening to Triple J every so often these days and never hear anything that's remotely listenable. At least Double J plays TISM and You Am I sometimes.

het
Nov 14, 2002

A dark black past
is my most valued
possession

teacup posted:

I don't know if Triple J was always poo poo or I'm just getting older

LordPants posted:

You're getting older.
I dunno:

Testekill posted:

1993. Dennis Leary- rear end in a top hat (First year that songs had to come from that year)

luncheon meat
Oct 11, 2007

Brendan Jones, 42, Bendigo
I like how the song that won last year was already being used all over ads and commercial radio. The Taylor Swift thing would've meant some fun meetings at the ABC with middle aged men talking about what youth want

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Don't mean to be "that guy" but I'm pretty sure Riptide was all over an MBF add before it won the hottest 100.

algebra testes fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Jan 21, 2015

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

LordPants posted:

Don't mean to be "that guy" but I'm pretty sure Riptide was all over an MBF add before it won the hottest 100.

I think what might disqualify Taylor Swift is that the Taylor4Hottest100 thing is being endorsed by KFC. Big difference between a guy who got his big break on Triple J topping the chart despite being in an ad (MBF also didn't endorse Vance Joy for the hottest 100) and having a massive fast food chain endorsing you.

luncheon meat
Oct 11, 2007

Brendan Jones, 42, Bendigo
Yeah that's just a silly minor thing they'll use to validate the disqualification. I guess they can't really go too far with rules like banning songs used in advertising but Riptide to me was definitely "the song from that ad". I mean they didn't directly endorse the song but when it's playing almost every ad break...

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

luncheon meat posted:

Yeah that's just a silly minor thing they'll use to validate the disqualification. I guess they can't really go too far with rules like banning songs used in advertising but Riptide to me was definitely "the song from that ad". I mean they didn't directly endorse the song but when it's playing almost every ad break...

The big issue with disqualifying songs being used in advertising is that it kinda punishes break out stars. Prior to Riptide, Vance Joy was just another indie pop guy who had been featured on Triple J Unearthed a couple of times. Then Riptide is a massive success and it's used in adverts because it's a recognisable song.
If the VFL was like "hey guys, former Coburg Lions player James Keogh aka Vance Joy had a smash hit this year. Vote for him in the hottest 100 and you can get free VFL tickets" then yeah he would have been disqualified because the VFL incentivised voting for him through a commercial campaign.


Kind of a moot point anyways since it's estimated that Swift is going to come in at about 75 or something like that.


EDIT: Found this on twitter. It kinda sums things up to me in regards to the whole situation


Testekill fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Jan 21, 2015

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
I love how one side is writing pleading essays about "what the industry needs" :jerkbag: and the other side is just like "Vote taytay, let's make some hipsters cry!"

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
I still remember the year when the morning presenters got a parody math song about the number 666 voted into the hottest 100. Goons could probably get a troll song voted in if they could be hosed (they can't)

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EdWwEMSyuY

6.66

Is one hundredth

of the number

of the beast.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Media watch theme song for number 1 please.

Quasimango
Mar 10, 2011

God damn you.

Testekill posted:




EDIT: Found this on twitter. It kinda sums things up to me in regards to the whole situation




Most of that is absurd, but I have to laugh at the idea of Triple J 'laying claim' to Kanye because they played songs from his first album. That would be the Kanye West whose first album debuted at No. 2 on the US Billboard charts, who already had two top 20 singles, and was a famous producer.

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =

Testekill posted:

I think what might disqualify Taylor Swift is that the Taylor4Hottest100 thing is being endorsed by KFC. Big difference between a guy who got his big break on Triple J topping the chart despite being in an ad (MBF also didn't endorse Vance Joy for the hottest 100) and having a massive fast food chain endorsing you.

Also what

Testekill posted:

The big issue with disqualifying songs being used in advertising is that it kinda punishes break out stars. Prior to Riptide, Vance Joy was just another indie pop guy who had been featured on Triple J Unearthed a couple of times. Then Riptide is a massive success and it's used in adverts because it's a recognisable song.
If the VFL was like "hey guys, former Coburg Lions player James Keogh aka Vance Joy had a smash hit this year. Vote for him in the hottest 100 and you can get free VFL tickets" then yeah he would have been disqualified because the VFL incentivised voting for him through a commercial campaign.


Kind of a moot point anyways since it's estimated that Swift is going to come in at about 75 or something like that.


EDIT: Found this on twitter. It kinda sums things up to me in regards to the whole situation




Yeah look I get it but I really can't get into Chet Faker

WreckSov
Aug 26, 2011
I wonder if they're going to throw out the song from the count and bump up everything behind it, throw out the votes for it, or throw out the entire votecards for the people who voted for it.

Hedrigall posted:

"Vote taytay, let's make some hipsters cry!"

Gym Leader Barack
Oct 31, 2005

Grimey Drawer

WreckSov posted:

I wonder if they're going to throw out the song from the count and bump up everything behind it, throw out the votes for it, or throw out the entire votecards for the people who voted for it.

It'll just be ignored, the song wasn't played on triplej at any point during the year so isn't actually eligible for a place in the countdown. They might glibly reference the campaign if it got enough votes to make the top 100 with something like "and at number 84 is Taylor Swift, or would be if she actually got any airtime on this station, so instead at 84 is something you're actually interested in hearing" *indie song made by twentysomethings starts*

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin

RandomCheese posted:

It'll just be ignored, the song wasn't played on triplej at any point during the year so isn't actually eligible for a place in the countdown. They might glibly reference the campaign if it got enough votes to make the top 100 with something like "and at number 84 is Taylor Swift, or would be if she actually got any airtime on this station, so instead at 84 is something you're actually interested in hearing" *indie song made by twentysomethings starts*

Not being played on Triple J doesn't disqualify songs. U2's Vertigo got on the list in 2004 and had never been played on JJJ.

Gym Leader Barack
Oct 31, 2005

Grimey Drawer
You're right, will be interesting to see if they validate it or not then, but the KFC sponsorship might be their trump card. If it charted high enough it might be like when pretty fly for a white guy took it out in the late 90's, they prettymuch never played or mentioned the song again and didn't include it on the yearly CD.

WreckSov
Aug 26, 2011
Every year they tout it as a musical democracy, as if that were a good thing.

Gym Leader Barack
Oct 31, 2005

Grimey Drawer
As evidenced by the current state of our government :australia:
The numerical position doesn't concern me too much, I think the best part of the hottest 100 are the CDs that follow because they are great little time capsules that I can listen to years later and get taken back to where I was when those songs were in current rotation (I listen to the J's probably 10 hours a day on average)

Did anyone here actually vote? I always take part but my choices rarely get far up the chart.

This was my list for the year:

ScHoolboy Q - Break The Bank
Ecca Vandal - White Flag
Manchester Orchestra - Top Notch
Jesse Boykins III - Plain
Röyksopp - Monument (The Inevitable End Version) {Ft. Robyn}
One Day - Love Me Less
ZHU - Faded
Hilltop Hoods - Cosby Sweater
Luca Brasi - Borders & Statelines
Banks - Beggin For Thread

Faded and cosby sweater have pretty good chances, but I am totally out of touch with what kids actually like so top spot will go to milky chance or the preatures or something else that I don't pay a lot of attention to.

luncheon meat
Oct 11, 2007

Brendan Jones, 42, Bendigo
All we can hope is that come tomorrow morning they get on air and say "fuckit we're playing TISM all day this year"

Gym Leader Barack
Oct 31, 2005

Grimey Drawer
Ha, straight up "Is she in this list.....BZZZT"

Creature
Mar 9, 2009

We've already seen a dead horse
I stopped voting once I got to the point where not one of my ten songs even made it into the 100. That was a pretty good sign that I was out of touch.

luncheon meat posted:

All we can hope is that come tomorrow morning they get on air and say "fuckit we're playing TISM all day this year"

This would be amazing.

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
Je suis Taytay

snaeksikn
Feb 28, 2010

:qq::qq::qq::qq::qq::qq::qq:
i like how people want to vote to 'piss off the hipsters' while also complaining that the station 'is too mainstream'

i voted mostly for a bunch of scandinavian pop and disco funk, hoping gooey by glass animals can crack the top 10!

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Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

theres been a lot more screamo than i expected so far but maybe thats what the kids like these days

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