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I'm a 30 something now, and although I really liked Sonic The Hedgehog games as a kid/teenager, they don't seem that great anymore. Actually they are pretty much poo poo. At least the old ones, but I've heard bad things about the new ones too. I've come to realization when I decided to play some Sonic 2 on my Wii's virtual console. The graphics are really impressive, but the level design is terrible. Platforms are haphazardly thrown into random places, and often two or three paths lead to the same place, usually with no change in difficulty. The worlds are way too open ended for no reason. I don't think there's one puzzle in this entire game. There's nothing clever about it, and quite frankly, boring. It's a game where you're supposed to go fast, and they let you do that with almost no challenges to overcome. So you just run right until you get to an exit or a boss, which are the most interesting aspects of the game unfortunately. After getting really mad at this game, I switched over to Super Mario World. God drat that game still owns. They didn't get all flashy with the graphics, and it doesn't matter. The gameplay is the focus of the game, and it really shows over and over again. You can't just run right and expect to win. You need to go in all different directions, but sometimes you're squeezed into a small area with enemies that are actually challenging to get by or defeat. There's puzzle elements and lots of secrets too. I'd also like to take this time to admit that I have been a victim of the "Genesis does" brainwashing. I told all my friends that Genesis was superior, and that it could do blast processing and SNES doesn't. I'm really ashamed by this, and I wish that I could go back in time to ask for a SuperNES instead of a Genesis and live my whole life again.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:23 |
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 18:52 |
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Sonic Generations is kinda fun kinda
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:26 |
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in the end they always come back into the fold
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:27 |
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LP0 ON FIRE posted:I'm a 30 something now, and although I really liked Sonic The Hedgehog games as a kid/teenager, they don't seem that great anymore. Actually they are pretty much poo poo. At least the old ones, but I've heard bad things about the new ones too. same
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:28 |
Next step: Realizing that your Sonic fanfic might not be worth finishing.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:29 |
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SparkPeople posted:Sonic Generations is kinda fun Is this about Sonic's great grand kids? Iamblikhos posted:Next step: Realizing that your Sonic fanfic might not be worth finishing. It's okay, I've already finished plenty of those.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:35 |
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i realized this as a kid slow rear end motherfucker
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:36 |
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:37 |
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Parallax Scroll posted:i realized this as a kid
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:38 |
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:39 |
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Parallax Scroll posted:i realized this as a kid gotta go slow
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:40 |
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saying you just mindlessly hold right in the older sonic games is bullshit. maybe for the first 2 stages of each game. sonic is bad for entirely different reasons. despite supposedly being about speed, they do their absolute damnedest to slow you down whenever possible with an insane amount of waiting around for platforms and poo poo. the exception is the designated speed sections that mostly take control away from you for a few seconds of dumb rollercoaster garbage. the camera is zoomed in to the point where you have zero chance of seeing obstacles or enemies coming, and the heavy momentum based movement is excruciatingly sluggish. playing super meat boy in particular makes it apparent how poo poo classic sonic is, since it nails that smooth and fast paced feeling by doing the complete opposite of what sonic does. rings are also the most retarded way of doing health in anything ever made, but the game needs it because its a patchwork fix to make up for the fact that you have no clue if you're about to run into something. sonic was popular because it looked amazing, has fantastic music, and had great marketing. not because it played well.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:40 |
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The original games weren't amazing but pretty far from bad. Sonic 2 had lousy stuff in it, but it also had things like Casino Night Zone. Sonic CD is probably the best game the franchise has to offer. Vargs posted:saying you just mindlessly hold right in the older sonic games is bullshit. maybe for the first 2 stages of each game. sonic is bad for entirely different reasons. This is pretty true.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:42 |
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same
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:43 |
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Vargs posted:saying you just mindlessly hold right in the older sonic games is bullshit. maybe for the first 2 stages of each game. sonic is bad for entirely different reasons. I've seen this exact opinion a lot recently. I always thought the Sonic games were lovely as a kid. Go me.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:45 |
lol if in Sonic 2 you didn't just do the Super Sonic cheat and play the whole game that way.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:48 |
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LP0 ON FIRE posted:Is this about Sonic's great grand kids? It's like the good parts of sonic 2d and the best parts of the 3d sonic games combined into one good game. As you can imagine it's very short.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:48 |
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Vargs posted:saying you just mindlessly hold right in the older sonic games is bullshit. maybe for the first 2 stages of each game. sonic is bad for entirely different reasons. Yeah, you pretty much nailed it. I forget if it's the 2nd or 3rd stage in Sonic 1, but it has much more of a classic platformer design to it. Almost like a castle level of Super Mario World, except it's barely fun. Another ridiculous thing is the time limit for each level is 10 minutes. They could have at least upped the challenge a bit by making it 3-5 minutes.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:48 |
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stand tall music defener
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:50 |
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I still think they're good but most people don't and people who enjoy sonic are 99% mentally ill pedos so i'll say they're bad.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 05:50 |
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TheJoker138 posted:lol if in Sonic 2 you didn't just do the Super Sonic cheat and play the whole game that way. I used to do the debug mode and turn into random objects. Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:It's like the good parts of sonic 2d and the best parts of the 3d sonic games combined into one good game. Sounds cool, thanks. Maybe I'll play it someday.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:01 |
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The Iblis Trigger.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:02 |
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As an autist, I am contractually obligated to center my life around Sonic
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:05 |
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if you did not pick [snes|genesis] [mario|sonic] [sf2|mk] you really hosed up enjoy your characters all having identical basic move sets and a projectile mk fans that leaves what for variety -the 1 other special move and the preprogrammed combos
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:06 |
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blue echidnas speak to those with broken brains, you see
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:06 |
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you've gotta really be deluding yourself to play those 3d dash levels of sonic, there is nooooo way anybody would play them if it wasn't for the mass autistic intensity directed towards sonic
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:07 |
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In retrospect I still think Sonic 3/Knuckles was a good game but that's it.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:08 |
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:In retrospect I still think Sonic 3/Knuckles was a good game but that's it.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:17 |
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I think it was originally supposed to be one game but Sega of America wanted Sonic 3 ready for Christmas or some poo poo.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:21 |
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Sonic trash. Sonic always been trash.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:21 |
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Sonic 3 was good because it had some neat power ups and poo poo. Running fast wasn't really the point iirc. It was basically a mario game.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:24 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYDsz1NFBJw
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:24 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7MabcmootQ
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:25 |
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:In retrospect I still think Sonic 3/Knuckles was a good game but that's it. And always goes conveniently unmentioned whenever people try to say there are no good Sonic games. I loving love Sonic Adventure as well though, it's a fascinating product of its time.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:26 |
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sonic spinball
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:26 |
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:It was basically a mario game. numberoneposter posted:sonic spinball
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:26 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJP8J84vzTA
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:27 |
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TheJoker138 posted:lol if in Sonic 2 you didn't just do the Super Sonic cheat and play the whole game that way. I used to know that poo poo by heart. My buddy Cody taught me in 3rd grade.
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:27 |
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i beat spinball it was better than the other games IMO, more of a puzzle that push right to win also remeber that nintendos answere to sonic was a unicycle racing game, sooo i dunno if thats a pro or a con
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 06:28 |
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numberoneposter posted:i beat spinball it was better than the other games IMO, more of a puzzle that push right to win wait rockstar north made that game what the gently caress
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