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swickles posted:You would think this whole scenario would have been a lesson to Goddell when it came to handling Rice and Peterson. Somehow the NCAA came out looking as bad as Penn State because of the massive overreach in authority that was only an emotional response to public outcry. I had way less of an issue with Rice being punished by the NFL -- in theory -- than I did the NCAA thing to be honest, but Goddell roundly mishandled that, and yeah only did it because he *had* to, not because he thought he should.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:54
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Frackie Robinson posted:I think we're seeing a lot of people (maybe understandably) wanting the governing bodies of sports to hold people accountable in situations where the legal system has failed to. But you've got to understand that that's an unreasonable, unadvisable, and impossible expectation. Sometimes the legal system takes a long time, but people need their retribution now, god drat it
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Jan 16, 2015 20:55
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:The NCAA was never, ever, ever, ever and I can't stress this enough, ever created or intended to police behavior like you're talking about. It was created to maintain a level playing field within the context of the game itself. Sure, right, but that doesn't mean that it's hypocritical to wish that the NCAA would stop being capricious and vindictive towards students for the most minor of meaningless infractions while being completely unequipped to deal with something like the institutional coverup of child rape to protect a football coach and program. Those are completely consistent beliefs. Just because things are this way doesn't mean they should be this way.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:55
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NippleFloss posted:Sure, right, but that doesn't mean that it's hypocritical to wish that the NCAA would stop being capricious and vindictive towards students for the most minor of meaningless infractions while being completely unequipped to deal with something like the institutional coverup of child rape to protect a football coach and program. Those are completely consistent beliefs. Just because things are this way doesn't mean they should be this way. I am going to, again, just say it: it's not like this is something that happens on the regular and its not like you need to add a whole bunch of realllllyyyyyy bad poo poo like the NCAA policing personal conduct to prevent it from happening again. Like that's the thing. This isn't what the NCAA is about not should it or will it be. There's a reason why people within the realm of college athletics and administration where really not too keen on the idea of this.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:58
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Why is Penn State even allowed to participate in collegiate sports at all? gently caress them. At this point you can't even point out that you would be punishing students who had nothing to do with, as most of them would have enrolled after the scandal hit the news and thus enrolled at a school THEY KNEW would happly cover up child rape. gently caress them if they had no problem with that.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:59
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Numlock posted:Why is Penn State even allowed to participate in collegiate sports at all? gently caress them. what
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Jan 16, 2015 20:59
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It's amazing how many people unironically say that all of Penn State's athletics programs should be shut down or even the entire university should have been shut down.
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Jan 16, 2015 21:02
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With as vehemently as Andichu defends Penn State in every Sandusky thread I sometimes wonder what skeletons West Virginia has hidden just beyond the media room door.
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Jan 16, 2015 21:03
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Onion article is out already and is glorious: http://www.theonion.com/articles/joe-paternos-name-to-remain-on-joe-paterno-center,28796/
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Jan 16, 2015 21:04
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This news has ruined my weekend. I wish somebody was around to prevent this sort of thing from being released on a Friday.
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Jan 16, 2015 21:04
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Komet posted:It's amazing how many people unironically say that all of Penn State's athletics programs should be shut down or even the entire university should have been shut down. Feels trump reason, y'know?
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Jan 16, 2015 21:04
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Komet posted:It's amazing how many people unironically say that all of Penn State's athletics programs should be shut down Well, they should. The university has established that athletic success is more important than child rape. And their fans agree. Penn State's AD should be shut down.
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Jan 16, 2015 21:05
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Thoguh posted:With as vehemently as Andichu defends Penn State in every Sandusky thread I sometimes wonder what skeletons West Virginia has hidden just beyond the media room door. I know you're just joking, but like, mob justice drives me batshit insane.
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Jan 16, 2015 21:05
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T-Shaped posted:Onion article is out already and is glorious: That's from 2012.
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Jan 16, 2015 21:05
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T-Shaped posted:Onion article is out already and is glorious: The Onion has been totally killing it for the last couple years. I dunno if they hired a bunch of new writers or what, but they've really picked up their game.
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Jan 16, 2015 21:06
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Bowden still number one in my heart
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Jan 16, 2015 21:06
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Thoguh posted:Well, they should. The university has established that athletic success is more important than child rape. And their fans agree. Penn State's AD should be shut down. Oh don't be silly.
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Jan 16, 2015 21:06
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I know you're just joking, but like, mob justice drives me batshit insane. So Holgo doesn't relax by force feeding Red Bull to small children until their heart explodes?
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Jan 16, 2015 21:07
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Joe Paterno allowed the rape of children to happen for years That's something they can never take away from you.
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Jan 16, 2015 21:08
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I know you're just joking, but like, mob justice drives me batshit insane. Child rape and Penn State fans who think Joe Paterno is a good and just man drive me batshit insane
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Jan 16, 2015 21:09
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Child rape and Penn State fans who think Joe Paterno is a good and just man drive me batshit insane Joe Paterno did things the right way.
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Jan 16, 2015 21:09
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Thoguh posted:Well, they should. The university has established that athletic success is more important than child rape. And their fans agree. Penn State's AD should be shut down. Penn State loving sucked at football when this came to light in 2001, so that argument just doesn't hold much water. I'll concede that maybe the coverup was to protect Paterno's and Penn State's shining city on a hill reputation, but I think the coverup was purely selfish. Spanier, Schultz, Curley, and Paterno were just protecting themselves. I'm honestly not even sure that Spanier was part of it.
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Jan 16, 2015 21:10
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The major conferences are all abandoning the NCAA anyway, right? None of these punishments will ever matter again as we enter the lawlessness of "autonomy"
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Jan 16, 2015 21:11
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Joe Paterno fans are a vocal minority *entire stadium acts like it's Free Yuengling Day when a brief picture of Joe Paterno appears on scoreboard*
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Jan 16, 2015 21:11
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Hed posted:That's something they can never take away from you.
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Jan 16, 2015 21:11
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If only Joe had been better at covering up the child rape.
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Jan 16, 2015 21:12
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Child rape and Penn State fans who think Joe Paterno is a good and just man drive me batshit insane I get that and I absolutely think he's a poo poo head and that they should not be happy about any of this.
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Jan 16, 2015 21:14
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Thoguh posted:Joe Paterno did things the right way. I read that as the white way
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Jan 16, 2015 21:14
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Upside: Bobby Bowden and FSU no longer #1 in lifetime wins. Downside: While the NCAA also sucks, this is some bullshit. Other upside: Joe Paterno will forever be remembered as an accomplice/complicit/overlooker of multiple child rapes. Other downside: This is still some bullshit.
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Jan 16, 2015 21:14
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protecting child rape and wins literally more important than stopping children from getting raped no one is surprised either.
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Jan 16, 2015 21:16
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Komet posted:Penn State loving sucked at football when this came to light in 2001, so that argument just doesn't hold much water. I'll concede that maybe the coverup was to protect Paterno's and Penn State's shining city on a hill reputation, but I think the coverup was purely selfish. Spanier, Schultz, Curley, and Paterno were just protecting themselves. I'm honestly not even sure that Spanier was part of it. Spanier was involved, but I don't think he realized how deep it went. pathetic little tramp posted:The major conferences are all abandoning the NCAA anyway, right? None of these punishments will ever matter again as we enter the lawlessness of "autonomy" Autonomy won't be lawless, it just means stupid poo poo like "you can't have an oatmeal cookie as a snack because that would be a meal because of calories" is going away.
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Jan 16, 2015 21:17
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Komet posted:It's amazing how many people unironically say that all of Penn State's athletics programs should be shut down or even the entire university should have been shut down. How is that silly or weird
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Jan 16, 2015 21:18
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Imagine if there were a huge amount of Michigan people who were like "yeah Ted Kaczynski might have messed up a bit later in life but you can't discredit all the good he did as a mathematician"
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Jan 16, 2015 21:19
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Mahoning posted:That's from 2012. i am bad at reading dates but the point of it still stands
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Jan 16, 2015 21:22
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Sometimes poo poo happens that nobody really expects and as such, it isn't really accounted for in rules, regulations, etc., but it's so loving vile and disgusting that literally everyone should be able to see that it needs to result in some kind of punishment. This is one of those times. I totally understand the argument against the NCAA but Paterno covered up a bunch of child rape for a long time because football and semantics shouldn't stand in the way of letting that fucker rot in hell and in the record books.
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Jan 16, 2015 21:24
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penn state should have gotten the death penalty qtiyd
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Jan 16, 2015 21:24
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Lee Harvey Oswald posted:penn state should have gotten the death penalty qtiyd
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Jan 16, 2015 21:28
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sportsgenius86 posted:Sometimes poo poo happens that nobody really expects and as such, it isn't really accounted for in rules, regulations, etc., but it's so loving vile and disgusting that literally everyone should be able to see that it needs to result in some kind of punishment. This is one of those times. I actually have less of a problem with the NCAA sanctioning him personally (e.g., if you want to strip wins, do it from him not the school).
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Lee Harvey Oswald posted:penn state should have gotten the death penalty qtiyd
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