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i dont know about the moderation is good thing, its like saying you can do the rape a little bit as long as you don't do it too often
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Actually, the monks are loving rich which absolutely disagree with the creed of Buddhism. The Buddha sculpture also requited the golden layer; so, even the Buddha loves the gold.
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Jan 20, 2015 10:27
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First Jhāna — the five hindrances have completely disappeared and intense unified bliss remains. Only the subtlest of mental movement remains, perceivable in its absence by those who have entered the second jhāna. The ability to form unwholesome intentions ceases. The remaining qualities are: "directed thought, evaluation, rapture, pleasure, unification of mind, contact, feeling, perception, intention, consciousness, desire, decision, persistence, mindfulness, equanimity & attention" Second Jhāna — all mental movement utterly ceases. There is only bliss. The ability to form wholesome intentions ceases as well. The remaining qualities are: "internal assurance, rapture, pleasure, unification of mind, contact, feeling, perception, intention, consciousness, desire, decision, persistence, mindfulness, equanimity, & attention" Third Jhāna — one-half of bliss (joy) disappears. The remaining qualities are: "equanimity-pleasure, unification of mind, contact, feeling, perception, intention, consciousness, desire, decision, persistence, mindfulness, equanimity & attention" Fourth Jhāna — The other half of bliss (happiness) disappears, leading to a state with neither pleasure nor pain, which the Buddha said is actually a subtle form of happiness (more sublime than pīti and sukha). The breath is said to cease temporarily in this state. The remaining qualities are: "a feeling of equanimity, neither pleasure nor pain; an unconcern due to serenity of awareness; unification of mind, contact, feeling, perception, intention, consciousness, desire, decision, persistence, mindfulness, equanimity & attention"
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Jan 20, 2015 10:29
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if you want to hear some hosed up poo poo, think about jains they cant kill anything so if they get worms they just have to have worms crawling around their butt forever
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Jan 20, 2015 10:33
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If the goal of buddhism is to escape the cycle of reincarnation and to help all beings do so, then how can we be sure buddhist monks are not plotting to destroy the entire universe as we speak?
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Jan 20, 2015 10:35
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I kept waiting for all that Jhana poo poo to happen and now it's all totally irrelevant. Dunno what these people were going on about. A way to have their cake and eat it too. Can't listen to Buddhists anymore.
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Jan 20, 2015 10:36
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buddhists can suck my dick (in moderation)
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Jan 20, 2015 10:39
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I'm living in filth and could use some protein, oh hey little rat here is some milk and hi mister cow yes you may wander the streets to poo poo and piss
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Jan 20, 2015 10:58
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hinduism is probably better, hth
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Jan 20, 2015 11:56
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Pththya-lyi posted:
I like the fat one better, he looks like he's fun to have around. The skinny one looks like he's gonna steal your rice bowl, and not give it back because material wealth leads away from path to enlightenment and the bear crosses the stream even tho there are still fish in it.
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Jan 20, 2015 12:11
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Let us all chant the Om mantra to symbolize the vibrations that give life and heat death to the universe. Rejoice with me as we all sublime into the pristine harmony of emptiness.
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Jan 20, 2015 12:45
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TOOT BOOT posted:i dont know about the moderation is good thing, its like saying you can do the rape a little bit as long as you don't do it too often shoot urself in the head in moderation
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Jan 20, 2015 12:47
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TOOT BOOT posted:i dont know about the moderation is good thing, its like saying you can do the rape a little bit as long as you don't do it too often Raping is inherently immoderate. Do you really need to force an unwilling person to get your rocks off for you?
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Jan 20, 2015 12:56
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Pththya-lyi posted:
Why does the girlyman have such tiny hands? Was he a transman?
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Jan 20, 2015 13:05
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toggle posted:First one. But without the weed. i read the buddhism thread once and they all agreed that alan watts wasn't a real buddhist because he only talked about meditation and the nature of being a human being and not about being reincarnated as a tree vole or saying the special mantra that allows you to be reborn in the buddhist teacher universe where you do ten thousand prostrations a day it was super cool
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Jan 20, 2015 13:10
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FullLeatherJacket posted:i read the buddhism thread once and they all agreed that alan watts wasn't a real buddhist because he only talked about meditation and the nature of being a human being and not about being reincarnated as a tree vole or saying the special mantra that allows you to be reborn in the buddhist teacher universe where you do ten thousand prostrations a day That buddhist thread, aside from a chosen few, is full mostly of westerners who want all the trappings of Eastern Buddhism, including the rituals, prostrations, gurus, etc. which I find curious but commendable I suppose, since the other direction, this barebones western psychology influenced Buddhism that is so removed from its context as to be useless. So I find myself criticizing both options. The first because it's superstitious without cultural context and the second because it just lacks any kind of context in the first place and adds filler and lingo in its place for the self help crowd. So I basically came to the conclusion of, don't be a Buddhist in the West. We're still waiting for Our Thing. Christianity is dead, Buddhism ain't it, what's it gonna be.
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Jan 20, 2015 13:35
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a posting ghost posted:Christianity is dead, Buddhism ain't it, what's it gonna be.
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Jan 20, 2015 13:51
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Disco Infiva posted:I like the fat one better, he looks like he's fun to have around. And now you know why everyone puts a Budai in their Chinese restaurant
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Jan 20, 2015 13:53
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FullLeatherJacket posted:i read the buddhism thread once and they all agreed that alan watts wasn't a real buddhist because he only talked about meditation and the nature of being a human being and not about being reincarnated as a tree vole or saying the special mantra that allows you to be reborn in the buddhist teacher universe where you do ten thousand prostrations a day The whole ritual thing is something that developed over the centuries and it's kind of pointless. Bowing 100 times to the Buddha won't help you too much on the path to enlightenment. But you have to give people something to do. The Tathāgata was really chill when it comes to rules for lay people, but he really went all out with the poor monks.
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Jan 20, 2015 13:53
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believe in one god do we satan almighteeeey
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Jan 20, 2015 13:59
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a posting ghost posted:That buddhist thread, aside from a chosen few, is full mostly of westerners who want all the trappings of Eastern Buddhism, including the rituals, prostrations, gurus, etc. which I find curious but commendable I suppose, since the other direction, this barebones western psychology influenced Buddhism that is so removed from its context as to be useless. So I find myself criticizing both options. The first because it's superstitious without cultural context and the second because it just lacks any kind of context in the first place and adds filler and lingo in its place for the self help crowd. pretty much you'll find that i like the Watts "get blazed; make tea; live on a boat" approach a lot, but I get that it doesn't actually say anything about the end of suffering other than that you should stop being such a damned boring rear end in a top hat all the time and listen to this cool anecdote instead *bangs gong; laughs at own joke for three minutes* on the other hand I can't help but laugh when people start to basically do the "But The Buddha Said So" routine, where you basically decide that "enlightenment" means you can see the future; other universes; absorb knowledge from the ether and then everything you say from thereon out must hold true in all cases and woe betide you if you don't follow all of the rules so I guess my point is hail Satan
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Jan 20, 2015 14:26
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He was trying to explain his ideas to people indoctrinated in a culture of millions of gods, reincarnation, etc... even with the best car analogy, information is lost. So then, and today, we have people arguing over drive train configuration, transmission, seating capacity, color, and trim package, having forgotten--or missed--that the car was never the subject to begin with.
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Jan 20, 2015 15:27
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TOOT BOOT posted:i dont know about the moderation is good thing, its like saying you can do the rape a little bit as long as you don't do it too often its more of there is a correct amount of all things, and the correct amount can be 0.
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Jan 20, 2015 15:36
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Palicgofueniczekt posted:He was trying to explain his ideas to people indoctrinated in a culture of millions of gods, reincarnation, etc... even with the best car analogy, information is lost. So then, and today, we have people arguing over drive train configuration, transmission, seating capacity, color, and trim package, having forgotten--or missed--that the car was never the subject to begin with. That arrow analogy he uses is pretty good. After achieving enlightenment he even wondered if it was worth trying to teach since people were so indoctrinated in the old ways. Also, anything outside the Pali Canon is a much later addition. I'm sure the Buddha went to one of the Heavens to explain theology to some divines because humans were too dumb to understand it lol get wrecked Mahayana 
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Decebal posted:The whole ritual thing is something that developed over the centuries and it's kind of pointless. Bowing 100 times to the Buddha won't help you too much on the path to enlightenment. But you have to give people something to do. rituaistic motions provide a good avenue for engaging in mindfulness.
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Jan 20, 2015 15:39
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it's actually extremely gay
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i haven't been able to find any instances of the buddhists in myanmar actually using buddhism to support their murders because the religion is pretty clear that killing is wrong and it is more noble to let someone tear you limb from limb than to raise weapons against them they justify their stuff with politics, economics, and racism. they mostly just "happen" to be buddhist, unlike, say, muslims that explicitly cite the quran to support themselves.
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Jan 20, 2015 15:43
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spacemang_spliff posted:i was going to post "tell that to the muslims in myanmar" but you did it better Good job to the buddhists in Burma for Fighting the Terrorists Over There So We Don't Have to Fight Them Over Here.
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Pththya-lyi posted:
he is also considered to be an avatar of the maitreya buddha, the next presiding buddha after guatama buddha he is called "the happy buddha" or "the laughing buddha" i guess the next age of the world is way better than this one
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a posting ghost posted:That buddhist thread, aside from a chosen few, is full mostly of westerners who want all the trappings of Eastern Buddhism, including the rituals, prostrations, gurus, etc. which I find curious but commendable I suppose, since the other direction, this barebones western psychology influenced Buddhism that is so removed from its context as to be useless. So I find myself criticizing both options. The first because it's superstitious without cultural context and the second because it just lacks any kind of context in the first place and adds filler and lingo in its place for the self help crowd. everyone who was ever enlightened or some dumb such poo poo did it her own way in her own time then a bunch of know nothings latched onto the brightest light they could find and dragged it back down into the mud where everyone could get at it
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FullLeatherJacket posted:you'll find that i like the Watts "get blazed; make tea; live on a boat" approach a lot, but I get that it doesn't actually say anything about the end of suffering other than that you should stop being such a damned boring rear end in a top hat all the time and listen to this cool anecdote instead *bangs gong; laughs at own joke for three minutes* what in here is not about the end of suffering? look if you wanna find out how to live look for someone with a sparkle in his eyes and just emulate him until you find out how a sparkle like that develops in your own being also you'll never be "too good" at it, so don't be afraid to keep trying easy peezy
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Jan 20, 2015 16:28
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Voodoo is the one true faith.
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ashgromnies posted:they justify their stuff with politics, economics, and racism. they mostly just "happen" to be buddhist, unlike, say, muslims that explicitly cite the quran to support themselves. Actually time magazine published an article saying mean things about.buddhists and there were several days worth of peaceful protests which is definitely equivalent tothe Charlie hebdo thing
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Jan 20, 2015 16:41
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Business Octopus posted:Actually time magazine published an article saying mean things about.buddhists and there were several days worth of peaceful protests which is definitely equivalent tothe Charlie hebdo thing lol
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Jan 20, 2015 16:43
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"Actually i do feel the need to apologize for genociders"
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Jan 20, 2015 16:44
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it's cool man they probably don't give a f about your tenuous excuses anyways, they're pretty happy genociding without your indirect support
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Jan 20, 2015 16:45
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Buddhism was the only religion cool enough for Carl Sagan to tolerate
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Jan 20, 2015 16:59
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caral sagan like the rest of us was a twerp
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Ema Nymton posted:Buddhism was the only religion cool enough for Carl Sagan to tolerate Einstein apparently said some good things about it, although the evidence is a bit flimsy. 2 reasonably smart people . makes you think
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