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19th century Jewish leader and physician, Max Nordau, would love Peter Jackson's the Hobbit movies. Not only for their smooth drag and easy pull, but for their plot.
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Jan 22, 2015 02:06
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Mameluke posted:19th century Jewish leader and physician, Max Nordau, would love Peter Jackson's the Hobbit movies. Not only for their smooth drag and easy pull, but for their plot. can you explain the joke for those of us who have never heard of that guy
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Jan 22, 2015 02:10
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you tried, op
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Jan 22, 2015 02:12
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He would love how much agency the Dwarves have, and Peter Jackson's efforts to show a broader slate of dwarvish society. Thorin's redemption would be welcome, as would Bilbo's humiliation by being forced into a stereoptypical and harmful dwarvish role (that of the gold-lusting sneak) .
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Jan 22, 2015 02:12
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eSportsAthlete posted:can you explain the joke for those of us who have never heard of that guy okay i just looked him up and he invented something called muscular judaism this guy owns http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscular_Judaism
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Jan 22, 2015 02:13
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This is the only correct Jewish opinion on the film...
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Jan 22, 2015 02:16
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eSportsAthlete posted:okay i just looked him up and he invented something called muscular judaism this guy owns Exactly. Rather than the puffy-bearded, dyslexic comedy relief of Gimli in Lord of the Rings, Thorin, FIli, and especially Dwalin represent powerful, sexually competitive dwarves superior to their racial counterparts by force of will.
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Jan 22, 2015 02:16
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i still dont get it could you expand on everything youve said so far op
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Jan 22, 2015 02:17
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Mameluke posted:Exactly. Rather than the puffy-bearded, dyslexic comedy relief of Gimli in Lord of the Rings, Thorin, FIli, and especially Dwalin represent powerful, sexually competitive dwarves superior to their racial counterparts by force of will. are you saying he wanted to allude to Jewish empowerment in The Hobbit? I didn't see any muscular goblins 
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Jan 22, 2015 02:18
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there's a four hour edit of all three films now that's supposed to be great but i fell asleep before the cool "chip the glasses and crack the plates" song (which is the best part of all three films) so idk if it's really that good or not, i'll be sure to update you all once i've successfully stayed awake for four hours in a row
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Jan 22, 2015 02:18
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Mameluke posted:He would love how much agency the Dwarves have, and Peter Jackson's efforts to show a broader slate of dwarvish society. Thorin's redemption would be welcome, as would Bilbo's humiliation by being forced into a stereoptypical and harmful dwarvish role (that of the gold-lusting sneak) . I wish Tauriel would've boned Kili. Would that qualify as midget porn?
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Jan 22, 2015 02:19
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The animated film was good. PJ sucks.
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Jan 22, 2015 02:19
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Mameluke posted:Exactly. Rather than the puffy-bearded, dyslexic comedy relief of Gimli in Lord of the Rings, Thorin, FIli, and especially Dwalin represent powerful, sexually competitive dwarves superior to their racial counterparts by force of will.
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Jan 22, 2015 02:20
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it dwarves every other movie in length and boringness
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Jan 22, 2015 02:20
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Like any true nerd, Nordau would denounce the unnecessary love plot in The Hobbit; not for its inclusion, but for its unwillingness to fully commit to interracial romance when Middle-earth still carries a powerful taboo against miscegenation. Fili and Tauriel represent the same hope that Gandalf (played by Ian McKellen, as a famous open homosexual he is a real-world counterpart) cultivates. Did you know there've been only four elven/human marriages, and almost all of them with the elite Numenorean caste? Mameluke fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Jan 22, 2015 |
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Jan 22, 2015 02:21
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gibberish its all gibberish
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Jan 22, 2015 02:24
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just imagine i made a real try-hard opinion right here and seriously debated you on the merits of this lovely film
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Jan 22, 2015 02:27
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Inexplicable black people.
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Jan 22, 2015 02:29
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:Inexplicable black people.
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Jan 22, 2015 02:32
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:Inexplicable black people. New half-hour block on Fox News
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Jan 22, 2015 02:32
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*old white person gesticulating wildly next to a picture of beyonce* how... why... i mean... come on now, folks... i mean... come on... listen, if they'd just... i can't...
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Jan 22, 2015 02:33
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You liked it because it was -real-.
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Jan 22, 2015 02:40
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gary oldmans diary posted:i thought this movie was supposed to be safe for children to watch yes.... black children.
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Jan 22, 2015 02:40
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Somebody compare me to SMG please.
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Jan 22, 2015 02:43
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:Inexplicable black people. they're called "orcs"
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Jan 22, 2015 02:46
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No, the orcs are Turks.
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Jan 22, 2015 02:47
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Harald posted:they're called "orcs" speaking of orcs did anyone feel uncomfortable when the elf king was questioning that orc pow?
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Jan 22, 2015 02:48
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dwarves arent jews theyre fuckin scots one of em actually says "laddie" the second he walks into bilbo's door
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Jan 22, 2015 02:48
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Mameluke posted:No, the orcs are Turks. that's nobody's business
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Jan 22, 2015 02:48
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:speaking of orcs did anyone feel uncomfortable when the elf king was questioning that orc pow? sexually uncomfortable?
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Jan 22, 2015 02:48
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Dear Sirs, Thank you for your letter. I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by arisch. I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects. But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people. My great-great-grandfather came to England in the eighteenth century from Germany: the main part of my descent is therefore purely English, and I am an English subject — which should be sufficient. I have been accustomed, nonetheless, to regard my German name with pride, and continued to do so throughout the period of the late regrettable war, in which I served in the English army. I cannot, however, forbear to comment that if impertinent and irrelevant inquiries of this sort are to become the rule in matters of literature, then the time is not far distant when a German name will no longer be a source of pride. Your enquiry is doubtless made in order to comply with the laws of your own country, but that this should be held to apply to the subjects of another state would be improper, even if it had (as it has not) any bearing whatsoever on the merits of my work or its sustainability for publication, of which you appear to have satisfied yourselves without reference to my Abstammung. I trust you will find this reply satisfactory, and remain yours faithfully, J. R. R. Tolkien
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Jan 22, 2015 02:50
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LegoPirateNinja posted:dwarves arent jews theyre fuckin scots In linguistic terms, the dwarves act one way around Bilbo (hobbits [Englishmen {whites}]) and another alone. They speak Khuzdul, a foreign, guttural tongue spoken by members of the in-group.
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Jan 22, 2015 02:51
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Harald posted:they're called "orcs" and they are explained as being born from the earth
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Jan 22, 2015 02:52
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They're noble elves corrupted by the machinations of Morgoth and his messenger, Sauron (Sauron repeatedly assumed the form of a winged vampire in the First Age to travel quickly).
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Jan 22, 2015 02:56
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yeah maybe if you beleive in evolution but we all know middle earth isn't over 600 years old
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Jan 22, 2015 03:11
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Actually Middle-earth was 8440 years old at the time of the Hobbit, at least in the reckoning devised by Men.
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Jan 22, 2015 03:15
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