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Spanish Manlove posted:I'm not surprised that a lot of people don't understand what four on the floor really is and why the op is complaining about a specific beat and not a time signature not a lot of people read music, especially percussion notation.
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Obscuritatem posted:i thought home taping was killing music? i just can't keep up. Nah dude it's click tracks Or autotune Or guitar pro Or drum samples Or
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Ocean Book posted:music with a steady pounding beat is fun sometimes you say that now, but when all music has been killed and there is no more music in the world, maybe you'll reconsider....
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Jan 22, 2015 15:47
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OP I liked the band you linked better when they were called Rush. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdpMpfp-J_I
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Jan 22, 2015 16:07
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Saltin posted:OP I liked the band you linked better when they were called fuc kcanada
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Jan 22, 2015 16:11
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Fart.Bleed.Repeat. posted:fuc kcanada what are you talkin aboot?
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Jan 22, 2015 16:13
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Personally what I think is killing music is the concept of specific artists and producers making music to be sold, rather than having average people getting together to make music out on the front porch after work and having community concerts
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Jan 22, 2015 16:14
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Doctor J Off posted:Personally what I think is killing music is the concept of specific artists and producers making music to be sold, rather than having average people getting together to make music out on the front porch after work and having community concerts you still sort of have this except it's on youtube now
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Jan 22, 2015 16:17
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What's killing music now is that there is *no* entry barrier to seperate those that actually have musicality and talent and effort and drive, from those that just plain don't and shouldnt make music, but nope gently caress that i got a computer i can be a music man too!
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Jan 22, 2015 16:19
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I wish to return to the days of yore when there were gate keepers of fine music known as "record labels" who carefully curated music and musicians such that there were no bad artists with any public exposure whatsoever.
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Jan 22, 2015 16:20
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Fart.Bleed.Repeat. posted:What's killing music now is that there is *no* entry barrier to seperate those that actually have musicality and talent and effort and drive, from those that just plain don't and shouldnt make music, but nope gently caress that i got a computer i can be a music man too! everyone should feel like they can be a music man but more people should put in time actually learning to play instruments
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Jan 22, 2015 16:21
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Sorta, i mean that 'back in the day' there was a definite difference between real music, which you could tell was real music, because it came on a loving tape or record or cd or on the radio, by a real band. If it didn't you knew it was a gimmick or something and people didnt try to pass it off as real music
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Jan 22, 2015 16:21
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open container posted:everyone should feel like they can be a music man but more people should put in time actually learning to play instruments 
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Jan 22, 2015 16:22
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Correcting myself a bit, im talking more about the real music industry, not music itself
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Jan 22, 2015 16:26
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Good music for dancing has always used intricate syncopation to "groove" and it is much more powerful a method for causing bodies to move than thump thump thump thump. Afro Cuban, funk, things like that. Boring white ppl starting seriously abusing the dance beat in their twee indie pop in the early 2000s and its kind of tapered off and we're back to hip hop beats circa 1998 mostly. This is what I have observed.
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Jan 22, 2015 16:33
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It is far easier to be good at your instrument than it is to do something interesting with it. Culture is too self consciously ironic and self referential for new ideas to gain ground. Remix culture. Music is artless and disposable. Everything is gay. All is lost.
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Jan 22, 2015 16:38
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sorry op nobody except jaded musicians enjoy spazzy 13/7 bullshit
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fanged wang posted:It is far easier to be good at your instrument than it is to do something interesting with it. Culture is too self consciously ironic and self referential for new ideas to gain ground. Remix culture. Music is artless and disposable. Everything is gay. All is lost. do you play an instrument? it is not easy to be actually good at playing an instrument.
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fanged wang posted:Everything is gay. All is lost.
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-kurt cobain
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Jan 22, 2015 17:28
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You have two feet you move each foot twice to complete a dance step. Try dancing sometime.
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Jan 22, 2015 19:58
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Rascallion posted:You have two feet you move each foot twice to complete a dance step. Try dancing sometime. How uninspired.
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Rascallion posted:You have two feet you move each foot twice to complete a dance step. Try dancing sometime. Something tells me the OP has never left the safety of his mom's basement, never mind a dance club with that oh so trendy 4/4 music.
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Jan 22, 2015 20:29
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All music is terrible. Just sit in a dark room doused in your own vapors.
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fanged wang posted:It is far easier to be good at your instrument than it is to do something interesting with it. Culture is too self consciously ironic and self referential for new ideas to gain ground. Remix culture. Music is artless and disposable. Everything is gay. All is lost. There it is. The fundamental flaw of postmodernism is a dependence on previously known material; there are a billion bands making music and trying to outdo one another but so much of it is derivative and stale that it's hard to find something truly new and interesting.
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Jan 22, 2015 20:50
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open container posted:do you play an instrument? it is not easy to be actually good at playing an instrument. Yeah. Any idiot can play well with enough practice. Some have a natural affinity for it but go look at all the virtuoso 6 year olds on YouTube. Who gives a gently caress. It's like those scrabble champions who have memorized the dictionary but are lovely at communicating because they are stunted spergs.
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Jan 22, 2015 20:51
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That song you posted sounds like loving King Crimson making GBS threads out a massive pile of diseased super-flu infested diarrhea while Robert Fripp slowly wails and slaps his semi-flaccid cock against his frayed guitar strings. That song is so loving bad it's offensive, Jesus loving Christ.
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Jan 22, 2015 20:53
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time signatures lol http://youtu.be/Z1RrVa_axRY
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Jan 22, 2015 20:57
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Weird time signatures are a hallmark of musicians and bands who reach for the stars while falling down a bottomless pit. It's not always bad but the weirder and more technically demanding your music is, the floor for what constitutes good music is raised higher and higher and the number of musicians actually capable of writing and creating well at that level diminishes rapidly. Most people shouldn't attempt anything as hard as Black Dog and definitely reconsider their dreams of giving the sloppiest and nastiest blowjob to 70s/80s prog
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Neumonic posted:There it is. The fundamental flaw of postmodernism is a dependence on previously known material; there are a billion bands making music and trying to outdo one another but so much of it is derivative and stale that it's hard to find something truly new and interesting. Yup. Influences are supposed to be tools in your toolbox. I think most would agree that Hendrix was a monster guitar player but every note he played on his albums was meant to reinforce the themes and emotions he was trying to communicate like you know loving art and poo poo. The solo for fire has 3 notes in it, because those are the correct notes for the story he was trying to tell. His songs would not be improved, even slightly, by random meter changes and 32nd note sweeps. Don't get me loving started on sweep picking!
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Jan 22, 2015 21:06
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i danceslaughter faggots to 9/8
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Using janky meters just because monkey cheese is what ppl do when they have no taste or restraint. Who the gently caress are you tryig to impress? Bc its lol certainly not the female gender.
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Cymbal Monkey posted:How is it that we've come so far as a species, created so much incredible art and yet have collectively decided that every single loving song, in order to achieve a modicum of popularity, needs to have a four on the floor beat? There's literally endless possible time signatures and rhythm patterns to choose from and yet humans have decided "nah, I just want something that metronomically and relentlessly goes BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM lest I get distracted and forget when the beats are." at what age did you 'grow out' of metal?
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Whorelord posted:at what age did you 'grow out' of metal? Grew out of prog 
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Cymbal Monkey posted:Grew out of prog that's the worst possible answer you could've given aside from maybe jazz
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Meshuggah is mostly 4/4 and they are doing just fine sounding mostly not 4/4.
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Cymbal Monkey posted:Grew out of prog Bitch look at what you posted you nutsack.
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Whorelord posted:that's the worst possible answer you could've given It's a lie as well. I never grew out of prog.
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I was drumming once and because of my lobotomy i was busting out polyrhythms on accident and people thought I was cool but really im a fuckup
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Here ya go, OP 7/11. Better? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE5VdsuGWJg Also LOL at people posting 4/4 vids.
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