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Popular Thug Drink posted:i apologize to my infant child every day as i sincerely believe existence is one of the cruelest things you can inflict on a person The problem with most of the pro-life (and a sizable chunk of pro-choice) people is that they default to the optimistic position that life somehow has an intrinsic or unquestionable value, life qua life, and that the teeming billions of unborn are somehow missing out on this by their nonexistence, rather than conceding that existence causes harm, termination may cause harm, and we're simply debating which is the lesser. (And also whether you actually exist that far back. If you take persistence of memory as a starting point for the existence of a 'self', you don't really start existing until about 5 months old.) Philosophical pessimists don't get a lot of airtime in public discourse though (Benatar is a rare exception in that he got some radio spots in South Africa about 10 years back) so the intrinsic value argument often goes unchallenged by either side.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2015 01:14 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 07:43 |
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C) I'm sure A and B also helped too. I'd phrase them as "A) a social safety net or B) family planning across all families" though.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2015 15:44 |
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Senethro posted:I honestly can't tell what his point is but somehow just looking at these two panels makes me feel anxious. The kind that asks "Am I dreaming or did a real person actually draw this?" Effectronica posted:Lawl. You're redeeming yourself crowfeathers.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2015 16:09 |
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I like how they can't bring themselves to make the direct comparison of "like allowing darker skinned black people to be lynched when they're in someone else's property without their permission", because that's probably something they support.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2015 13:37 |
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McAlister posted:I usually follow up with a common sense truthy question of some kind illustrating the trouble a sentient fetus could get into in the womb. What if it got bored and tugged its umbilical out of the wall? What it it started trying to see where the Fallopian tubes go? The birth canal is so tight that the neonates head is deformed severely by passage through it. If the fetus is awake why doesn't it fight back instead of letting its head get squeezed like a tube of toothpaste? Phyzzle posted:Although, for this question, it simply isn't strong enough. Fetuses do flail around a lot and grasp with their hands before birth. The article seems to suggest that they do this in some sort of sleep state where their motor and sensory systems aren't interacting much with the cerebrum. The part about their heads being 'squeezed like a tube of toothpaste' does raise a valid counterargument for people that use the "what about the pain?" argument though. You never hear that being used against natural childbirth.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2015 17:18 |
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CommieGIR posted:The bill specifically required women to 'demonstrate that their miscarriage was natural or face felony charges'
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2015 04:50 |
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Pixelated Dragon posted:Do they really think this will make women change their minds about it or is it just a delaying tactic?
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2015 21:17 |
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Strong Convections posted:There are synthetic wombs embryos/foetuses (foetii? is the root greek or latin?) Foetus is a hypercorrection, from a period in the middle ages when æ and œ got simplified to e, and then at a later point expanded out again. The e in fetus was mistakenly thought to have been one of these cases. Most modern medical texts use fetus now, although the hypercorrect spelling continues in non-scientific use in Commonwealth English. There have been some recent research advances in artificial wombs, so I think that's the most likely part to come true. More likely than eliminating rape, incest, and poverty.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2015 12:02 |
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How do they compare to a real clinic if someone goes there actually wanting to carry a baby to term?
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2015 13:03 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 07:43 |
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So in addition to being anti-choice, they're not even much good for women who want a child. I don't see what basis they should be allowed to advertise their services as fit for purpose. And yet protesters outside of clinics have been known to harass everyone going in, whether for an abortion or for a routine scan. What would a crisis pregnancy center say to someone who said they wanted to carry the baby to term and were keen to get ultrasound scans and nutritional advice? "Go to Planned Parenthood and get called a whore by our friends outside"?
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