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Is the extra half hour chock full of adventure and excitement? Or is just sloshed together footage to make me want to invest an extra half hour of my time? It says it has a "Fade to Black" ending, which is making me iffy, but on the other hand, what if there's something really important that I'll miss watching the shorter version? Help me fellow goons, goonettes and troons! Also, thanks for not letting me use the '½' character in my thread title, now my knowledge of ascii tables is completely useless Lowtax.
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watch the best scenes on youtube then read a book instead because tv and film are for pleb scrublords. you dont want to be a sscrublord do you
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Jan 23, 2015 08:20
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the shorter version is better, the extra scenes are mostly pretty lovely TBH
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Jan 23, 2015 08:23
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Damo posted:watch the best scenes on youtube then read a book instead because tv and film are for pleb scrublords. you dont want to be a sscrublord do you is there an anime adaptation?
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Jan 23, 2015 08:23
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Apocalypse Now is an important movie to watch, but only if you know why. Most people these days have no patience to understand why the movie matters. It's a cornerstone in cinematic technique AS WELL as a historical one.
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Jan 23, 2015 08:25
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i think it's a really long scene at a french colonial plantation
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Jan 23, 2015 08:25
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The original 2 1/2 hour film is good enough without the Redux. It's kind of pointless since the original film was amazing on its own to begin with.
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Jan 23, 2015 08:27
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Agreeing with the redux haters. Was excited for the Redux in 2001, then finally saw it and the added scenes really interrupt the flow of the already long film.
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Jan 23, 2015 08:28
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watch the long version, it's not like you were going to do anything with the extra half hour
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Jan 23, 2015 08:30
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It does serve a purpose as it adds some pretty surreal rear end scenes which enhances the dreamlike quality of the film, but besides that it bloats it somewhat, it's the price you pay.
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Jan 23, 2015 08:34
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I watch Redux, but to be honest you probably won't even get why its the better version until you see the original cut, and because the extra scenes are fairly slow it might even make the experience worse. Watch the original cut, if you like the movie watch Redux the next time.
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Jan 23, 2015 08:34
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I've fallen asleep every time I've tried to watch this film. FIve times and counting
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Jan 23, 2015 08:39
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Wolfsheim posted:the shorter version is better, the extra scenes are mostly pretty lovely TBH Yeah, I ended up fast forwarding through the entire French plantation scene.
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Yeah, I ended up fast forwarding through the entire French plantation scene. oh and super important monologue about why America would and could never win the war vvvvvvv lol site fucked around with this message at 08:51 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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Jan 23, 2015 08:46
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did u know that the reason you cant really see marlon brando very clearly in the film is bc he had recently underwent breast augmentation surgery so francis ford coppola (yes, the wine guy -- he makes movies) had to hide him in the shadows. pretty neat huih
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Jan 23, 2015 08:49
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The movies called Apocoplyse Now but it's set in the past. What the heck??
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Jan 23, 2015 08:58
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Korthal posted:Also, thanks for not letting me use the '½' character in my thread title, now my knowledge of ascii tables is completely useless Lowtax. You can't go into space with fractions, dipshit. Like, you can't go to the moon. What are you going to land on, eh? 5/6's? 7/8's? That's dialectic physics, man. I prefer Redux. It is my favorite movie of all time, either way.
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Jan 23, 2015 09:25
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yup
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Jan 23, 2015 09:27
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whatever version has the internal monologue, is he a replicant who gives a poo poo
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Jan 23, 2015 09:27
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oh look it's babby's first Important Movie, have a revelatory experience and enjoy liking it on facebook 5 minutes in
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Jan 23, 2015 09:33
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its like the first time i listened to "graceland" last year
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Jan 23, 2015 09:34
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Apocalypse Now! was the first movie I ever saw on DVD. My dad who rented it couldn't figure out the DVD player at first so we watched the opening scene at the hotel room 12 times before he managed to get it to play. As for the OP's question, watch the normal cut first if you can, then Redux. Or don't, I don't loving know.
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Jan 23, 2015 11:12
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No, you should watch the original five hour print.
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Jan 23, 2015 11:20
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Serious post, here's what you miss if you don't watch the Redux: Some additional (great) voice-overs by Cpt. Williard regarding Kurtz. An awesome and trippy scene where they stop at a leaderless Army outpost and gently caress two Playboy Bunnies from the USO show who are stranded and tripping on Acid (seriously), Chef makes fun of Mr. Clean for being a virgin. A scene at a French Plantation where that great French actor (forgot his name) explains a bit about the history of French Indochina including the folly of Dien Bien Phu over dinner. Williard has sex with a French woman after smoking Opium with her, she explains some things about the Duality of Man. A bit of extended ending with more footage of Kurtz. Also, after the whole "Charlie can't surf" thing, Williard and the crew steal Col. Kilgore's surfboard for some reason and hide out further down the river, smoking weed and getting chased by a tiger. They all add to the movie significantly, in my opinion, except for the surfboard-stealing scene. It doesn't make sense plot-wise or sit well with the theme of those characters, and it makes Williard look some kind of immature frat boy prankster, instead of a burnt out, crazed, PTSD ridden alcoholic.. It's way too light hearted and doesn't fit with the rest of the film. Let me know what you think after you finish the film. It is, like I said, my favorite movie. edit: Octy posted:No, you should watch the original five hour print. Should I watch this? I've seen the movie (and Redux) probably between 20-30 times by now, over the years. I still watch it at least a couple times per year. I've seen Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse a few times, and I just finished watching the biography of John Milius too. I'm a pretty dedicated fan. How rough is the workprint? Is it actually watchable? SOME PIG fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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Jan 23, 2015 11:31
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I prefer Redux (the 3 hour cut) to the original, but if you've never seen it then I recommend you go for the the shorter original version first. If you like it then give the Redux version a whirl as the extra scenes really do add to the narrative nicely. if you don't like it then don't bother, since the additional material isn't going to make enough of a difference that you'll change your mind.
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Jan 23, 2015 11:45
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I wanna watch the the version that contains Martin Sheens coke induced heart attack.
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Jan 23, 2015 14:35
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Watch the 2 1/2 hour version. The director's cut is just 30 more minutes of the trippy monolith scene.
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Jan 23, 2015 14:42
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STONE OF MADNESS posted:Important Movie lol
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Jan 23, 2015 15:12
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U shud read the book. K thx. -Anorexic Sea Turtle
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Jan 23, 2015 15:17
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Watch the original cut, then Redux. They're both good, but the original is better to me, I find the extra sequences by and large make the film really bloated and the added scenes with Marlon Brando at the end are detrimental to why his character works as an antagonist. A few extra lines of dialogue are good, mostly the stuff with Robert Duvall, but I prefer the original cut. Also, apparently the workprint is extremely long, unwieldy, and boring, like they extended the Ride of the Valkyries sequence to 30+ minutes. I think the Atlantic did an article on it a number of years ago.
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Jan 23, 2015 15:26
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LOL at everyone saying "read the book". It's a different work, set in a different time and place, with a different set of reference points. You can do either one or both in either order, whatever suits your tastes and lifestyle.
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Jan 23, 2015 16:49
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Riosan posted:Watch the original cut, then Redux. They're both good, but the original is better to me, I find the extra sequences by and large make the film really bloated and the added scenes with Marlon Brando at the end are detrimental to why his character works as an antagonist. A few extra lines of dialogue are good, mostly the stuff with Robert Duvall, but I prefer the original cut. Yeah, I haven't seen the workprint but I've had it sitting on my HDD for about a year. I'll watch it out of curiosity one day when I actually have five hours of my life to waste.
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Jan 23, 2015 21:23
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skip this and just watch captain america or the avengers or guardians of the galaxy
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Jan 23, 2015 21:25
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VendaGoat posted:I've fallen asleep every time I've tried to watch this film. This is how I feel about Jean-Luc Godard's Breathless. Still can't finish it.
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Jan 23, 2015 21:26
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i'm about to watch "satan's lil helper" on amazon pri ...apoco now is too artsy at ANY length
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Jan 23, 2015 21:27
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Pube Factory posted:i think it's a really long scene at a french colonial plantation Yeah. The additional 30 minutes is 90% French plantation and 5% trading sex with playboy bunnies for fuel.
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Jan 23, 2015 21:39
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The French Plantation scene is pretty interesting, but it stops the flow of the movie. I'd watch it separately after you have seen the original cut. In Redux they also add a lame scene where Willard steals Kilgore's surf board.
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Jan 23, 2015 21:58
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Huh. I didn't know there was an even longer cut. I might have to look into that. Assuming it's floating around on torrent sites or something?
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Jan 23, 2015 22:01
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which one has the "IT WAS A GOOD SURF BOARD AND I LIKED IT" cuz that one
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After watching both versions several times, I like the Redux better, and so it is the version I watch now. Yes it has a bit more bloat, but it's fleshed out and provides a bit more background, if you watched the short version and crave that sort of thing. I had forgotten that the Medevac/Bunny scene was only in the Redux. The way the parties talk past each other while preparing to have sex is very powerful. Like all Americans in Vietnam (save for Kurtz and maybe Willard), they are clearly trying to attain some semblance of normality and human contact. The fact that each person has there own definition of normal, and proceeds to force it on the other, regardless of their willingness to participate, is a perfect allegory for the war itself. The plantation scene adds some great surrealist imagery, as well as some historical background, if you can bear it. Watch 'em both if you need to dip your toes in the water. Or just belly-flop into the Redux, it's a wild ride.
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