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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTthT8tn5_o Known features: Tower capturing Player buildings, including tents Graphics and animations that were surpassed by MMOs released a decade ago Enemies that attack the general direction of their target on occasion Map Chat window Trees, rocks, grass and dirt
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Jan 30, 2015 10:52
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Pathfinder's official campaign setting is stupid, but it's a good, functional kind of stupid. They meticulously included every imaginable cliche, so that you can just dive right in and have dumb fun adventures with minimal deliberation. The way to translate a setting like this into a video game would be to hire artists and have them squeeze every ounce of personality possible into this, so you at least have something that stands on distinctive appeal that gets people to take notice. World of Warcraft does this reasonably well. It's another godawful pile of cliches that's saved by good, characterful art direction. But then, In this gameplay segment of Pathfinder Online, I see three, maybe four of the same trees copy-pasted across an endless expanse with few discernible landmarks, in what appears to be a gigantic hex-grid. This wouldn't even make a fun environment in a drat tabletop session.
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Jan 30, 2015 12:45
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"Eh, grass is too hard to do, just throw some ugly tufts around then give the ground a grass texture. It was good enough in 2004, right?" 
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Jan 30, 2015 13:02
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finally an mmo where i can shamble around a forest killing wolves
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Jan 30, 2015 14:49
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I'm surprised to find out this game is actually still a thing
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Jan 31, 2015 04:02
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Truly groundbreaking.
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Feb 2, 2015 21:25
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This can't be real.
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Feb 2, 2015 21:55
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Oh wow that run cycle. And those player models. And the spell animations. This has to be lost footage from a decade ago, right? I can't look away.
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Feb 2, 2015 21:57
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This would've looked bad a decade ago. A decade ago we had WoW and City of Heroes.
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Feb 2, 2015 22:59
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This reminds me of Asheron's Call in a bad way.
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Feb 2, 2015 23:42
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I felt like I was there, I could smell the grass, feel the wind... Hey is this game on a tablet?
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Feb 3, 2015 00:23
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Are any goons actually playing this?
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Feb 23, 2015 20:31
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If your free donation money isn't enough to hire someone to program features, modern gaming standards are actually fine with just telling people what to do like making a rule on how hard the kids in your 3rd grade gym class you teach can throw the dodgeball while you drink cheap whiskey from a desk with a fake wood finish. I'm waiting for the MMO standard to include asking the community to draw textures for the developers in a contest to see who wins a free two month subscription.
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Feb 27, 2015 19:33
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30.5 Days posted:Because I need somewhere to post this: 3 months of game time? what a deal
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Feb 27, 2015 19:33
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Well, it is a lifetime subscription.
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Feb 28, 2015 00:20
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Asimo posted:Well, it is a lifetime subscription. 
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Feb 28, 2015 00:26
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How much of this did they outright steal from other games
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Jackard posted:How much of this did they outright steal from other games It's Pathfinder, so all of it
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If you think that video was bad, you missed out on the alpha content. End of last year when it was their dev machine, rebooted once a day or whenever they discovered a major problem (so not infrequently), they'd release a proud milestone blog like a kids masterpiece coming home from school. Having backed it, I got the invite to early enrolement at the end of December and it went 'live' on the first of January. To say it was underwhelming would be a bit of an understatement. No tutorial, no explanations just a bunch of static NPCs and you're supposed to work it out yourself. The fact that it kept dropping the connection and doing that lag skid thing MMOs do meant I didn't bother long. I looked back in this last week past with the release of EE5. It's fairly stable now at least but they still don't seem to have any idea what they're making or who the target audience is. The mechanics are changed a fair bit to make it fit as a computer game so it's not going to please the purists. The PvP features are as unfinished as everything else so 'evil' players just sort of gang up on people and gank them - which led to that ban on killings inside NPC towns. On the other hand the crafting system was put in in close to the planned version, so not all raw materials are available near one place on the map. To build anything complex will require trade and travel - both of which are not implemented yet other than people legging it from one place to another (hoping they don't get ganked). It'll be fun to watch it and see how it goes but the fact that they're selling EE access at all says a lot. It was supposed to be hotly contested with Goblinworks 'gating' people in as the months pass to build up the population. There's even a thread on the Paizo forums for people who backed it for the miniatures etc with no intention of ever playing to sell their accounts. I saw one whole other human player today in about 2 hours running around. To sum up, at present it's a rather ugly jogging and gathering simulator with occasional surprise murders.
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Ratzap posted:If you think that video was bad, you missed out on the alpha content. End of last year when it was their dev machine, rebooted once a day or whenever they discovered a major problem (so not infrequently), they'd release a proud milestone blog like a kids masterpiece coming home from school. did you back it ironically, did you back it because "why not" and you could take or leave the money, or did you actually think it had a chance of being good? i'd like an insight into your psyche.
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Zarithas posted:did you back it ironically, did you back it because "why not" and you could take or leave the money, or did you actually think it had a chance of being good? i'd like an insight into your psyche. None of the above  Some friends and I play tabletop games via fantasy grounds every week or so. One of the guys who DMs pathfinder and is all into pathfinder put me onto PFO coming up. His wife would frown very deeply at him blowing cash on something as dodgy as the PFO kickstarter so I grabbed a buddy twin pack backer level thing and gave him one. I'm have a fairly generous disposable income when I work so you could say it came into category 2. Plus I have a thing for MMOs (even though I'm not a people person) and I like to at least look into any I find out about, the major ones definitely. That's getting difficult though as there are just so drat many coming out. There's something majestic about some of the MMO alpha/beta train wrecks which normal titles just can't touch. PFO could find a niche but subs in what is essentially alpha? Time will tell on the extent of the failure but this one has potential for a big crunch and given the tie-in with Paizo has potential to splash over onto them (they host the forums for one).
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Ratzap posted:It'll be fun to watch it and see how it goes but the fact that they're selling EE access at all says a lot. It was supposed to be hotly contested with Goblinworks 'gating' people in as the months pass to build up the population. There's even a thread on the Paizo forums for people who backed it for the miniatures etc with no intention of ever playing to sell their accounts. I saw one whole other human player today in about 2 hours running around. To sum up, at present it's a rather ugly jogging and gathering simulator with occasional surprise murders. So fantasy DayZ
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sword_man.gif posted:this game charges you monthly even after you pay to be in the early access That's how all Quadruple-A rated games work that have high rated graphics, intense storyline, and no flawed game mechanics. Oh wait.
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I bought this on kickstarter I thought it might end up worth it for a month or 2. However when I found out they wanted to charge a sub for early alpha access I lost all desire to even try the game.
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I feel like these guys might have a better chance. They even have a very attractive Kickstarter video. But seriously don't give this Pathfinder kickstarter your money, it's a pump and dump.
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Isn't the guy behind this also incredibly GRR GOONS GOONSWARM IS THE EPITOME OF EVERYTHING WRONG WITH ONLINE GAMES?
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Anticheese posted:Isn't the guy behind this also incredibly GRR GOONS GOONSWARM IS THE EPITOME OF EVERYTHING WRONG WITH ONLINE GAMES? Last I looked yes.
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Apr 27, 2015 03:19
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What sandbox MMO's with a focus on PvP are worth playing right now? I'm playing Eve-Online, but I want a fantasy MMO.
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No pvp sandboxes out there right now are worth playing, far as I know.
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I said come in! posted:What sandbox MMO's with a focus on PvP are worth playing right now? I'm playing Eve-Online, but I want a fantasy MMO. Maybe Crowfall will actually be kind of fun when it comes out next year, though I sincerely doubt it. At least the graphics look like they were made in the last decade.
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I said come in! posted:What sandbox MMO's with a focus on PvP are worth playing right now? I'm playing Eve-Online, but I want a fantasy MMO. If you missed it check out the Albion thread. Another "not right now" game, but looks very promising.
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Grogsy posted:If you missed it check out the Albion thread. Another "not right now" game, but looks very promising. Albion looks like dog poo poo riddled with consistently terrible design decisions. Which I suppose is better than the completely nonsensical design decisions of PO. SweetBro fucked around with this message at 07:28 on May 25, 2015 |
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May 23, 2015 04:05
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Five thousand american dollars.
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I've gone over the "manual". Here's some choice quotes.quote:When you die, each item in your inventory has a 25% chance to be destroyed. Whatever remains will be placed in a “husk” which can be looted by any player one item at a time or recovered in one action by its character. Translation: Somebody really liked the Rallos Zek server in EverQuest, but felt it wasn't punishing enough. quote:You can only have 3 characters per account. If you decide to delete a character it takes 24 hours for the deletion to become permanent and for that slot to be recycled. Be careful about making characters just to see what they look like. Translation: Hey, you know that thing people do when starting an MMO, trying out various race/class combos til they find something they like the aesthetic of? gently caress those people. quote:Do not train Rank 2 of an attack, cantrip, orison, or armor Feat until you have acquired at least +1 or better gear matching that Feat. You will get no mechanical benefit until your Feat ranks activate Keywords on your gear. (See more in the Activating Keywords section) Translation: We're secretly 4rrys at heart. quote:There are no NPC vendors. You should sell all starter gear you don’t need on the Auction House in your starter Settlement, and you should buy starter gear you do need on that Auction House. Selling your unwanted gear and buying the gear you do want will jump-start the economy and make it much easier for new characters to get correctly equipped." Translation: We don't want this to look anything like a Pathfinder game you might expect to sit down and play. We want to make it as irritating as loving possible to get started if you happen to start out later. quote:Races in Pathfinder Online I don't know, I'm seeing 4e Keywords and thinking there is no way in hell is this game ever going to live up to the name they've put on the game. quote:Physical Appearance Except if you get it in game and decide you don't like it you've gotta wait til 9am EST to remake the character.  This is the actual image quality in the PDF. I'm sorry-not-sorry. Looks like Crafting is giant chunks of downtime. 6.7 minutes for what looks like a 40 arrows. Cut down from 33.3 minutes. quote:Currently all ranged attacks including the casting of cantrips or orisons “root” the character. The character has to remain stationary during the attack. Hey, 'cause this is still a thing. As lovely as Vanguard: Saga of Heroes was, casters being able to move during casting was a good thing that even loving Blizzard, God-Kings of MMOs has adopted lately into WoW, starting with everything Hunters do and ending with certain spells being able to be cast on the move. But sure, let's reinvent the loving wheel in a market that is predicated upon iterative development. Also being in melee as ranged means you take extra damage if you're smacked around. Because gently caress you. quote:The biggest difference between the two kinds of attacks is that ranged attacks usually put the “Attack of Opportunity” condition on your character, which means that some melee attacks made against your character will do extra damage. Generally, a character firing a bow standing next to a monster using a sword will take damage faster than the same character using a sword. quote:Ammunition and Charges Reinventing the wheel, not learning from the mistakes of giants, standing on the rear end of giants to pee instead of their shoulders, etc., etc. Moving on. quote:Arcane Spell Penalties Hey look, it's the loving Elder Scrolls Online treatment of ASF. Because gently caress you. Another note on dying: quote:Durability Because gently caress you. Why don't they just loving implement permadeath? That's clearly what they loving want. quote:PvP Hey look, the exact wrong way to handle pvp by forcing people to opt-in with loving griefers who probably don't give a poo poo about the penalties. There was another MMO that came out recently that treated PvP penalties similarly to this, what was it? Oh yeah, ArcheAge. How much griefing exists in that game? ALL OF IT. Except they aren't stupid enough to allow griefers to attack people not flagged. FFXIV-style Events are in called Escalations. So they clearly understood iterative design. Or are just ripping poo poo off. quote:Wands, Staves & Foci Implements come in four flavors, one for each of the four implemented Roles. Arcane Spellbooks, Divine Holy Symbols, Rogue Kits and Fighter Trophy Charms. Why do they even call this Pathfinder Online? This is 4e all loving over. quote:Priorities: Functions over Discovery I love Function over Form, but you still need Form at some point before releasing it to the end user, you cockbags. If you tried to release this to an end user in ANY OTHER loving ENVIRONMENT and told them they had to read a forum instead of, I don't know, the loving MANUAL or have it baked into the end-user interface, you would get loving laughed at or loving FIRED. I don't care this is in your so-called "beta" or "crowdforging" state, this is loving unprofessional as gently caress. Crowning quote right here, though: quote:Pathfinder Online is a game that is being developed in a unique and exciting new process. Tl;dr: Hey guys, they believed we'd change things during the beta test of Pathfinder, bet we can make them believe it again. Translation: We want to gently caress you in the rear end by making you pay for this game while it's in development. Hey, AAA titles do it, why not us, right? And you better believe this game won't be improved whatsoever where it's mechanically found lacking because we're dumbasses who have no idea what the gently caress we're doing. I'm going to call it based on past experience with Paizo; three years down the line, this game "releases" and not a single loving core system is change despite feedback. Nothing about this is on the level. RelentlessImp fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Jun 19, 2015 |
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Jun 19, 2015 10:48
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Jesus loving Christ I've never seen a game with such a hate boner for its own players like this before. People are paying tons of money to get early access to this?
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Anoia posted:Jesus loving Christ I've never seen a game with such a hate boner for its own players like this before. You didn't see Paizo's Pathfinder playtest then. This is just the same poo poo sandwich Paizo has dished out for its customer base and they still eat it up.
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RelentlessImp posted:This is 4e all loving over
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Anoia posted:People are paying tons of money to get early access to this? I can't be bothered, but if anyone wants to take a look it seems you get a free 15 day trial by creating an account on their site.
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