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60%. Leaves some spare cash for requisitions, but a good ship, with a good crew, is all anyone really needs.
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frajaq posted:Well yes but we could also use that extra money at the start to buy practical things like customized best quality carapace armor with the image of an unique Imperial Saint for each of our elite troops (with their detailed stories and glories engraved on them), or a Baneblade covered in diamonds. Just pointing out that while I'm sticking with my vote, these are all good ideas that should be considered for later. Actually our elite troops look pretty rad as it is. Rast seems like a cool dude too, hopefully not quite as pointless as a by-the-book Arch-Militant.
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Jan 31, 2015 08:25
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A. 70% Ship first, everything else follows
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Jan 31, 2015 09:30
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A Go big or go home.
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tarbrush posted:A +1 
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A The seat of our power should be as ridiculously huge and ostentatious as is humanly possible. Nobody takes a Rogue Trader with a poncey little pinnace seriously.
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F = 0%. We have no ship but can buy anything, literally anything.
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In Koronus Expanse, first you get the 70% ship, then you get the money. Then you get the power.
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50%. Reserve funds are always needed in case of emergency. ...and given how we pissed off the judging cabal of Inquisitors as we left, "emergencies" are going to find us soon enough.
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40%, he needed that money for the other project. You know, the other project.
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50% An impressive ship is all well and good but a small fortune of unmarked gems hidden in your sole can cover a multitude of sins.
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A: Let's be honest here, our motivation is pride. Anything less than the biggest, gaudiest, most heavily armed cruiser is just not good enough for Sebastian's ego. If our ship doesn't have an ostentatious display of wealth, it's just not good enough.
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70% because Great-great-great-etc. Grandfather knew he was slipping. One of his last acts was to ensure the dynasty would have a ship worthy of it. Unfortunately, since he was corrupted by a Xenos artifact his idea of grandeur may have been a little...off. The ship is labyrinthine even on the main decks. Luckily the servo skulls that infest it seem to have a well nigh encyclopedic knowledge of the place. The servo skulls and the cherubs that also infest the ship seem to be having a turf war, unfortunately. It has great guns though.
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A because looks are something like 70% of the job  .
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Footfall “Seventy.” You look at Cornelius with an eyebrow cocked. “Seventy… what? Million thrones? Years of service to Mars? Legions of Space Marines? Titans?” “Percent.” You pause. “Seventy percent… of… what?” “The Dynasty. Seventy percent of our resources have been expended on this particular effort, at the behest of the prior Lord. The colony of Prosperity’s Reach alone required a significant amount of investment.” The value of a Rogue Trader Dynasty is a nebulous concept. Wealth has an entirely different meaning when you own a starship, or speculate on enough food to feed a hive world for a year. The very act of managing resources of that magnitude becomes an ordeal in and of itself, and many Rogue Traders find themselves in situations more analogous to the trials and tribulations of the Departmento Munitorium than a wageslave balancing his budget. The quantity of money Cornelius was talking about was greater than the net worth of some planets. You close your eyes and run through a small mental exercise, the same one that cleared your mind after countless psychic interrogations. You’re pleased to find it’s just as effective in this situation. You look over at your seneschal. “I don’t suppose there’s a reason you failed to tell me this previously?” Cornelius sighs. You can tell this isn’t easy for him. “I had no choice. In the eyes of the Inquisition Terra’s Resurrection is lost, and more importantly so is the planet where the Halo Device was first found. Muttering even a hint would have brought about even more pain upon you. And the Progenitor’s actions could only be undone by another Lord of the Dynasty.” “Besides,” Rast interrupts, “we needed another ship.” You consider the situation and then shrug. What was done was done. Time to adjust and move on. “Very well. What’s her status?” Cornelius waves his hand and the pedestal in the center lowers slightly, allowing a holo projector to open up from the ceiling. The sight of a ship appears in front of you. The lines are familiar, close to what you’ve seen in the historical holos, but not identical.”  “The fore is different, Cornelius. And she’s woefully underarmed. I see neither the dorsal lances nor any sort of prow weaponry that traditionally mark the Chalice class. And are those landing bays?” “Yes, Lord Prosper. The prow was destroyed in the crash, and we had to strip out a significant portion of nonessential components in order to make the effort even possible. The landing bays are an example of that; fighters are lighter than macrocannons. Particularly fighters that don’t have to be stored on the ship before she’s launched. The good news is that there’s significant room and power for expansion within her hull. The bad news is that we desperately lack the funds to do so, and even if we had them installation would have to wait until after she has risen.” “You mean she’s not in orbit yet?” “No, Lord Prosper. We’re nearly there, with the exception of fuel. The Resurrection is completely devoid of her plasma stores, and we’ll need a massive quantity to bring her into orbit and return to service.” You consider this. “Once we obtain the plasma, how will she be brought out?” “I’m not Adept, Lord, but your predecessor made extensive plans that even the Mechanicus have marveled at. The representatives from the Lathe worlds have been most helpful.” Cornelius pauses, considering his next words carefully. “The Resurrection is a glorious and ancient ship, but I suspect their interest lies beyond the vast fortunes we have paid them or the opportunity to study her. The Chalice-class was a bit of an embarrassment for the Lathe worlds. The Inquisition made sure the public never wavered in their belief that the pride of the Calixis sector was a cornerstone of the fleet, but as you know the vessels cannot take punishment equivalent to what they deal.” “What’s your point, Cornelius?” “Even on their best days the Mechanicus are impossible to understand, but inside their hearts they are still men. They may not wish to see their flaws put on display.” You purse your lips. “Do you think they might sabotage the effort?” Cornelius shakes his head emphatically. “Absolutely not. Every Mechanicus, from Initiate to Magos, sees these vessels as the manifestation of their Machine God. They want this vessel sailing the stars as much as we do. But what then? That’s what worries me.” You nod, then look at Rast. “Have you noticed anything about the Mechanicus that concern you?” The giant shrugs. “Everything about them concerns me. I saw one woman with mechadendrites for breasts. At least I think she was a woman. Didn’t get close to really verify.” You chuckle. “Duly noted.” You feel the gun cutter bank, presumably coming in for a landing somewhere. Cornelius speaks up. “As I said our priority is getting enough fuel for the effort. We already have contacts with various Merchant Guilds who would be willing to supply and transport the plasma, but naturally the expense would be considerable. Our destination is also located deep in the Expanse. Getting there will not be easy, and if we’re beset upon I doubt a ship with a hold full of plasma is the ideal place to be. They will almost certainly choose a slow, safe route.” As Lord of the Prosper Dynasty the choice comes to you to decide how to move forward. What is your decision? A. The Merchant Guilds, while expensive, are also incredibly reliable. Paying a premium to ensure the safe transport of your fuel is the right choice. Better to get the fuel there with a delay than worry about not having any fuel at all. B. It would cost more, but with the right fiscal motivation you’re sure you can find a Merchant Guilder ship willing to brave a direct route. To offset the risk you can also investigate hiring an escort, but every Throne Gelt left in your coffer is that much more precious. C. The Ordo Xenos pursue any lead to the Halo worlds no matter what the cost. Perhaps that cost could include the purchase and transportation of a hold full of refined plasma? After millennia of searching you suspect your Dynasty has exhausted all possible sites on that planet. Of course this would bring the Inquisition back into your life. Is the intrusion worth it? D. Why carry a hold full of volatile plasma across the Immaterium when you could just as easily harvest it locally? A gas giant in the same system as Prosperity’s Reach could provide the crucial fuel, but it would require a ship specially equipped with plasma scoops. It’s unlikely a mining craft would venture so far out, but perhaps an independent trader or explorer? Or another Rogue Trader? Would you dare subject the Prosper name to further shame by enlisting another Dynasty to save your own? E. The Adeptus Mechanicus are already well vested in this effort. Perhaps something could be arranged beyond mere Thrones for this crucial piece of assistance? Explorator Fleets are common place and it’s possible that they may be willing to travel in your direction. But what could you offer them? How far do you trust a people who endeavor to strip away their own humanity for machine perfection? F. Something else? Feel free to post your own ideas! Vote: http://goo.gl/LWV0e6 Results: http://goo.gl/IOlsEN
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E Nothing ever goes wrong getting into bed with the Adeptus Mechanicus!
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Feb 5, 2015 06:57
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A. Let's stay as far away as possible from the Mechanicus (for now!)
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A Darker Porpoise posted:E Nothing ever goes wrong getting into bed with the Adeptus Mechanicus! I heard there's even an new up and rising Mechanicus in a fellow Rogue Trader family!
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E: Invite the Mechanicus to station a Magos Explorator aboard Terra's Ressurection.
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It's pretty clearly going to be E because any time someone so much as breathes "techpriest" everyone leaps for that option like starving rats.
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I vote A. Being the prideful sort we are, asking another Rogue Trader dynasty to help us is absolutely out of the question, and as for the Inquisition I'd say we thoroughly burned that bridge, plus gently caress those guys anyway. That leaves the other three options, one of which is the Mechanicus but our crew has some suspicions regarding them and I think we should take the advice they're giving us. That leaves the two merchant options, slower and more reliable or quick but risky (and expensive). Since most of our resource base is tied up in this ship I don't think we should be rushing to bankrupt ourselves just getting started (that would be embarrassing), and we waited however long it took us to get out of Inquisitorial lockup so I don't think waiting just that much longer is going to kill us. Once we're onboard the ship and all squared away, then we can start taking some risks.
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:It's pretty clearly going to be E because any time someone so much as breathes "techpriest" everyone leaps for that option like starving rats. A: spend a lot of money and wait. B: spend an exorbitant amount of money. C: probably get brain tortured. D: spend money only for our goods to probably blow up. Plus feel ashamed at relying on help. E: get useful crew like people that would be able to identify any problems aboard faster than any normal crew member. Wasn't a hard decision for me.
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The Mechanicus can be useful but they're also secretive and frequently have their own agenda, plus no small amount of them are pretty loving crazy to boot and not always in the helpful "I made you a plasma gun that fires other, smaller plasma guns" sort of way. If there's something to do with that ship that pushes their buttons for some reason, they're won't hesitate on our account just because we have a fancy bit of paper and a sweet pistol.
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Seems to me that the Mechanicus might be a good option if we can ditch/corrupt the escort. Quick rundown: A. The Merchant Guilds High cost, low risk B. Merchant Guilder ship +escort? Extremely high cost, High risk? C. The Ordo Xenos Low cost, High risk of meddling + Mindfuck D. Enlisting another Dynasty High cost in political status , !Unknown risk! E. The Adeptus Mechanicus Low cost, High risk of meddling + "Archeotech? Give me that!"
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Feb 5, 2015 09:57
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C. Our name's in the shitter as far as those with power are concerned. This is a chance to start fixing it.
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E. And you know why. 
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E! Make Rast even more uncomfortable.
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Feb 5, 2015 12:56
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E Because the ship is probably going to need someone who knows how to fix its gubbins. Besides, nothing could possibly go wrong
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Goin with A
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E. We'll let them help us, because they aren't particularly incomprehensible. We've stood up to Inquisitors, some person who's replaced parts of their brain with cogitators will be easy. Plus they might be able to help us outfit the ship better when we do get around to equipping weapons.
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E What exactly is "plasma" in this context? Hydrogen for fusion reactors? It's literally the most common element in the universe, surely an enterprising techpriest could figure out how to get some from somewhere nearby.
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Feb 5, 2015 14:41
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It's magic space fuel harvested from gas giants. Probably rarer isotopes of things used for better fusion reactions.
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Yeah, plasma in a WH40K context probably doesn't mean hydrogen in its plasmic state, probably more like "an arcane and dangerous mix of fissile materials."
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While picking a magos to ask for help, we should get an eccentric one that likes experimenting. That kind are much more receptive to secret dealing in restricted tech.
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True, but not too eccentric. Too eccentric Magos tend not to be too far from Heretek-dom and they would absolutely gently caress us over to get their hands on the tech onboard once they felt they could.
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Specially look for a Malatek, they are the 'untouchables' of the mechanicum and will gladly join a rogue trader.
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Also see if we can recruit a Bloodthirster for boarding actions
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One step at a time.
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:Also see if we can recruit a Bloodthirster for boarding actions No. Bad. No more bringing the inquisition down on our head.
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