spooky girlfriend posted:

Danger Mahoney posted:

I think there is a lot of mental gymnastics going on for white people who are outraged at Cosby, a black man, but are pretty ambivalent and go on about separating the artist from his work when watching Polanski films.

serious norman posted:

The presumption of innocence, sometimes referred to by the Latin expression Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat (the burden of proof is on he who declares, not on he who denies), is the principle that one is considered innocent until proven guilty. In many nations, presumption of innocence is a legal right of the accused in a criminal trial. The burden of proof is thus on the prosecution, which has to collect and present enough compelling evidence to convince the trier of fact, who is restrained and ordered by law to consider only actual evidence and testimony that is legally admissible, and in most cases lawfully obtained, that the accused is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. If reasonable doubt remains, the accused is to be acquitted.

Nameless_Steve posted:

Witness testimony counts as evidence. In fact, in our legal system, witness testimony is the largest provider of evidence in pretty much any given conviction.

You have ~30 women all coming forward, each able to prove they were in the same place at the same time with Bill Cosby with factually consistent and detailed stories. That's overwhelming evidence.

Were they all lying, in order to earn the fame and glory that come with being a rape victim? The rape victim sponsorships, rape victim reality shows, rape victim bragging rights?

Why is the burden of proof for proving somebody raped someone so incredibly high, and the burden of proof for proving somebody lied and perjured about being raped so incredibly low?

Rambling Robot posted:

this gets really insane if you watch it for like 2-3 minutes straight. he just keeps tormenting the poor woman.

Nameless_Steve posted:

Witness testimony counts as evidence. In fact, in our legal system, witness testimony is the largest provider of evidence in pretty much any given conviction.

You have ~30 women all coming forward, each able to prove they were in the same place at the same time with Bill Cosby with factually consistent and detailed stories. That's overwhelming evidence.

Were they all lying, in order to earn the fame and glory that come with being a rape victim? The rape victim sponsorships, rape victim reality shows, rape victim bragging rights?

Why is the burden of proof for proving somebody raped someone so incredibly high, and the burden of proof for proving somebody lied and perjured about being raped so incredibly low?

eternalname posted:

That's the thing though, to me, that's a weak explanation, Hannibal Burress.

According to Patton Oswalt and Roseanne Barr, literally everyone in comedy circles has known about this forever. It was an open secret. And you had cases brought up against Cosby years and years before any of this, and nobody gave a poo poo.

Why did the media never run with any of this before? Why did none of these women come forward? It's all because some random comedian had a 30 second bit about it in one of his sets? How many people off the street would even know who Hannibal Burress was before this happened?

Danger Mahoney posted:

Not that I disagree, but you must be high as gently caress to have typed that last line out seriously. "How can you be innocent of murder until proven guilty when I am innocent of perjury until proven guilty??"

eternalname posted:

You know what's incredibly disturbing about this? If Roseanne and patton oswalt are telling the truth, there was an entire system knowingly overlooking this while bill cosby hosted a children's television show that children participated on as guests. Hollywood as a whole is maybe slightly less disgusting than Joe Paterno.

Dieting Hippo posted:

this is like the government spying issue where people said "haha, yeah the government spies on us all the time" before the nsa stuff came out, and after it came out people were all "OH poo poo THE GOVERNMENT DOES SPY ON US." except instead of the govenment violating us its an old black guy with roofies

Blazing Ownager posted:

Because one comedian came up with a routine to bash Cosby after finding this out himself, specifically calling out the fact people ignored it, and that poo poo spread like a forest fire.

Rambling Robot posted:

this gets really insane if you watch it for like 2-3 minutes straight. he just keeps tormenting the poor woman.

Danger Mahoney posted:

I think there is a lot of mental gymnastics going on for white people who are outraged at Cosby, a black man, but are pretty ambivalent and go on about separating the artist from his work when watching Polanski films.

Frostwerks posted:

wow stay away form that bike shop lol

GrrrlSweatshirt posted:

tina feys joke about cosby raping people was rly funny at the golden globes and it was even funnier because none of the actors in the crowd laughed and they were just muttering disapprovingly

Dieting Hippo posted:

you got a link to that? i dont wanna type "cosby rape tina fey" into google

Darkman Fanpage posted:

http://www.vulture.com/2015/01/see-tina-fey-and-amy-poehlers-cosby-rape-joke.html

spooky girlfriend posted:

Zzulu posted:

SeventhSeven posted:

So who is the next comedian that everyone knows is raping?

david... posted:

Americas Saville

Danger Mahoney posted:

Not a comedian, but Brian Singer is a notorious statutory rapist and for-real rapist. But he's a white guy with a lot of money so whatcha gonna do.

Vorik posted:

he was framed by the Illuminati and NWO

Danger Mahoney posted:

Not a comedian, but Brian Singer is a notorious statutory rapist and for-real rapist. But he's a white guy with a lot of money so whatcha gonna do.

eternalname posted:

That's the thing though, to me, that's a weak explanation, Hannibal Burress.

According to Patton Oswalt and Roseanne Barr, literally everyone in comedy circles has known about this forever. It was an open secret. And you had cases brought up against Cosby years and years before any of this, and nobody gave a poo poo.

Why did the media never run with any of this before? Why did none of these women come forward? It's all because some random comedian had a 30 second bit about it in one of his sets? How many people off the street would even know who Hannibal Burress was before this happened?