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InequalityGodzilla
May 31, 2012

Paladinus posted:

The fat kid must be from Latin America. There's also a black guy chilling with his 'harem' under a tree. The girl with a drone might be of Asian descent, too, when I think about it.

Anyway, my point was that so far minority characters aren't exactly fleshed out. Not that other characters are fleshed out, but still.
The girl with the drone was definitely asian, the fellow who quizzes you on photographers before he'll let you see his portfolio, I think he was asian as well, Stella (I think that was her name?) was pretty clearly middle eastern or possibly Indian, I couldn't tell which.

closeted republican posted:

Can you ruin Chloe's life in this game? Apparently you have to save her from being killed but I still want to be a giant dick to a whiny and super-angsty Tumblr teenage girl.
Whiny and super angsty? Her family is heavily in debt, her father died during her formative years and her stepfather is obsessively controlling and physically abusive. Plus her (possible) girlfriend has at best abandoned her, leaving town with zero notification, or at worst been murdered and thrown in a ditch or something. I feel like those are entirely valid reasons to be angsty.

Edit: Oh, and if she's to be believed (which is likely), she was nearly raped.

quadrophrenic posted:

I've said it before: Chloe and the jock chilling under the tree are the only tolerable personalities I've met in this game so far
Do you mind if I ask how old you are? I'm only about 5 years removed from most of the characters and I found most of them to be fairly realistic. Teenagers are generally kind of self-obsessed knowitalls, that's just how they are. the only ones I found insufferable were Nathan (incredibly spoiled nutjob), Victoria (pretty much clipped straight out of Mean Girls) and the kid who quizzed you before he'd let you see his portfolio (just generally kind of stuck up). Everyone else was a bit annoying yeah but that's just how teens are.

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Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

Paladinus posted:

I suspect that Chloe and her real dad were maybe a bit too close

:goonsay:
Anyway spent 4 hours on the game and still didn't get all the photos so drat. Man the wait between episodes is going to be killer.
Weird allusions so far:
Max Caulfield
Blue is the Warmest Color (French movie/French devs but mainly this is going of Chloe's hair)
Madoka Magica (Vaguely occured to me when watching the trailer and someone else pointed out how the tornado/hurricane/vortex is vaguely similar to Walpurgisnacht)
Anything else you guys have noticed?

Dr. Killjoy fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Feb 5, 2015

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Dr. Killjoy posted:

:goonsay:
Anyway spent 4 hours on the game and still didn't get all the photos so drat. Man the wait between episodes is going to be killer.
Weird allusions so far:
Max Caulfield
Blue is the Warmest Color (French movie/French devs but mainly this is going of Chloe's hair)
Madoka Magica (Vaguely occured to me when watching the trailer and someone else pointed out how the tornado/hurricane/vortex is vaguely similar to Walpurgisnacht)
Anything else you guys have noticed?

Yes. It's a Donnie Darko rip-off. Hard not to notice, really.

Also, lol at your supposed anime reference. Like. It's a tornado, mate. It's almost like a sharknado, but without sharks. Maybe the real shark... is you? Makes you think.

Oh, and the opening scene is clearly an Alan Wake reference, because there's a lighthouse, which is completely unique and a staple of the video game called Alan Wake (not to be confused with its spinoff Alan Wake's American Nightmare.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

InequalityGodzilla posted:

Do you mind if I ask how old you are? I'm only about 5 years removed from most of the characters and I found most of them to be fairly realistic. Teenagers are generally kind of self-obsessed knowitalls, that's just how they are. the only ones I found insufferable were Nathan (incredibly spoiled nutjob), Victoria (pretty much clipped straight out of Mean Girls) and the kid who quizzed you before he'd let you see his portfolio (just generally kind of stuck up). Everyone else was a bit annoying yeah but that's just how teens are.

Did you attend an art school? That's not how things were at my Uni.

\/\/\/ If you can't tell who 'bought' this av, you should probably cut down on watching anime.

Paladinus fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Feb 5, 2015

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
The best part about your av/text combo is I can't tell whether you or someone else got it, but either way the effect is about the same.

Dr. Killjoy fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Feb 5, 2015

Rosalind
Apr 30, 2013

When we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change.

Paladinus posted:

Did you attend an art school? That's not how things were at my Uni.

\/\/\/ If you can't tell who 'bought' this av, you should probably cut down on watching anime.

I get the impression you're not American judging by your word choices ("uni" and "mate" standing out). I mean yes the characters are a bit exaggerated at times, but honestly this really isn't that different from the high school I attended. It's just very American teen.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem

Dr. Killjoy posted:

The best part about your av/text combo is I can't tell whether you or someone else got it, but either way the effect is about the same.

You can always tell who missed out on the mass buying of pony avatars. (It's you.)

InequalityGodzilla posted:

Do you mind if I ask how old you are? I'm only about 5 years removed from most of the characters and I found most of them to be fairly realistic. Teenagers are generally kind of self-obsessed knowitalls, that's just how they are. the only ones I found insufferable were Nathan (incredibly spoiled nutjob), Victoria (pretty much clipped straight out of Mean Girls) and the kid who quizzed you before he'd let you see his portfolio (just generally kind of stuck up). Everyone else was a bit annoying yeah but that's just how teens are.

I don't get this; you're arguing against someone saying the characters are annoying, and then you admit the characters are annoying?

Caros
May 14, 2008

Rosalind posted:

I get the impression you're not American judging by your word choices ("uni" and "mate" standing out). I mean yes the characters are a bit exaggerated at times, but honestly this really isn't that different from the high school I attended. It's just very American teen.

Honestly I only think its 'different' insofar as most media tends to exaggerate certain qualities simply because they need to get character traits across in a more speedy fashion. I'm sure if they had sixty hours of gameplay they'd probably tone down some of the character traits, but in an episodic game like this it makes sense to emphasize certain character traits to get them across in a more efficient manner.

I'm a decade and some removed from high school and it sure as gently caress felt pretty accurate to me.

Calico Noose
Jun 26, 2010

Paladinus posted:

Did you attend an art school? That's not how things were at my Uni.

Why did you think it was a University? It's very clearly a boarding school for high school kids.

Constant Hamprince
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
College Slice
Palladinius did you think it was unrealistic that no one was stressed out about writing their A-levels in this game set in an American private high school.

quadrophrenic
Feb 4, 2011

WIN MARNIE WIN

InequalityGodzilla posted:

Do you mind if I ask how old you are? I'm only about 5 years removed from most of the characters and I found most of them to be fairly realistic. Teenagers are generally kind of self-obsessed knowitalls, that's just how they are. the only ones I found insufferable were Nathan (incredibly spoiled nutjob), Victoria (pretty much clipped straight out of Mean Girls) and the kid who quizzed you before he'd let you see his portfolio (just generally kind of stuck up). Everyone else was a bit annoying yeah but that's just how teens are.

I'm 28, and I grew up in kind of a hick town. Most of the people I went to high school with were sorta dumb, and we had a lot of the standard Breakfast Club-type cliques, but not a ton of hipsters or twees or artsy folks or whatever

beergod
Nov 1, 2004
NOBODY WANTS TO SEE PICTURES OF YOUR UGLY FUCKING KIDS YOU DIPSHIT
Game owns, is affecting, you should play it.

PunkBoy
Aug 22, 2008

You wanna get through this?
Man, this game reminds me so much of high school/freshman year at college, warts and all. Just got the USB drive and met Warren, but I'm already liking Max, and I'm really enjoying the game. Can't wait to finish the episode so I can go through the black bars.

PunkBoy fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Feb 5, 2015

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
Fun thing about the game is constantly being reminded of your own teens - it's really cringeworthy. I was laughing my rear end off and kinda feeling how close to home it hits with the Max and Warren dynamic.
EDIT - Ahahaha comments on that Warren video are bitching about friendzoning and SJWs :allears:

Dr. Killjoy fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Feb 5, 2015

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Dr. Killjoy posted:

Fun thing about the game is constantly being reminded of your own teens - it's really cringeworthy.

There's far too much acoustic guitar and not nearly enough nu-metal to accurately emulate my life as a teenager. If somebody could mod this game to replace all the songs with Linkin Park, then I'd probably be reminded of my high school years.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
As long as there is no possible way that porn comes out of it (it will :smith:), mods that change the npcs and music could only be loving hilarious and I welcome it.

InequalityGodzilla
May 31, 2012

mycot posted:


I don't get this; you're arguing against someone saying the characters are annoying, and then you admit the characters are annoying?
I'm saying the characters are annoying in a fairly realistic, teenager-ish way. What I'm not saying is that they're all insufferable and that I can only stand 2-3 of them, which is what the guy I was quoting was saying.

Paladinus posted:

Did you attend an art school? That's not how things were at my Uni.
I'm sorry the kids in this game aren't like the kids at your local fish & chip shop.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Rosalind posted:

I get the impression you're not American judging by your word choices ("uni" and "mate" standing out). I mean yes the characters are a bit exaggerated at times, but honestly this really isn't that different from the high school I attended. It's just very American teen.

I am not American, but I've consumed enough American pop culture to know that every character in the game is a stereotype from your regular high school drama. Like I said, I'm sure they're aiming to subvert a lot of things, but so far it's just too clear cut.


Caros posted:

Honestly I only think its 'different' insofar as most media tends to exaggerate certain qualities simply because they need to get character traits across in a more speedy fashion. I'm sure if they had sixty hours of gameplay they'd probably tone down some of the character traits, but in an episodic game like this it makes sense to emphasize certain character traits to get them across in a more efficient manner.

I'm a decade and some removed from high school and it sure as gently caress felt pretty accurate to me.
The first episode of Telltale's Walking Dead did a way better job at establishing characters without reserving too much to classic zombie apocalypse tropes. There are hints of character development in Life is Strange, but that's it, just hints. Most characters have literally zero characterisation, even though Max is supposed to know them well.

Calico Noose posted:

Why did you think it was a University? It's very clearly a boarding school for high school kids.
I was on my fresher year when I was 18.

Reclaimer
Sep 3, 2011

Pierced through the heart
but never killed



Paladinus posted:

I am not American, but I've consumed enough American pop culture to know that every character in the game is a stereotype from your regular high school drama. Like I said, I'm sure they're aiming to subvert a lot of things, but so far it's just too clear cut.

The first episode of Telltale's Walking Dead did a way better job at establishing characters without reserving too much to classic zombie apocalypse tropes. There are hints of character development in Life is Strange, but that's it, just hints. Most characters have literally zero characterisation, even though Max is supposed to know them well.

I was on my fresher year when I was 18.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Ha-ha, it's funny because she's not British and would have likely flipped the bird, i.e. extended only her middle finger while showing the back of her fist. What a laugh.

As you can tell, I'm extremely well-versed in American customs and rituals.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
If I had time-traveling powers, I would mostly use them to deliver mild burns that I couldn't come up with on spot.

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004


:dukedog:
Offensive Clock
I have got one vital unanswered question:

What is the text on the shirt Max is wearing?

Ruby Prism
Aug 7, 2011

With this, I'll be able to make the ultimate pie!

ymgve posted:

I have got one vital unanswered question:

What is the text on the shirt Max is wearing?

It's Jane Doe.

InequalityGodzilla
May 31, 2012

Paladinus posted:

I am not American, but I've consumed enough American pop culture to know that every character in the game is a stereotype from your regular high school drama. Like I said, I'm sure they're aiming to subvert a lot of things, but so far it's just too clear cut.
Shockingly enough most stereotypes have at least a tiny grain of truth in them. The spoiled rich kid, the smug jock, the social crusading teacher, there's a reason those stock characters show up in the game, it's because nearly everyone who went to an American high school knew someone who fit those descriptions.

Calico Noose
Jun 26, 2010

Paladinus posted:

I was on my fresher year when I was 18.

Thats nice, lets try this again. Why can't you fathom that a university has a very different social dynamic from a high school?

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


InequalityGodzilla posted:

Shockingly enough most stereotypes have at least a tiny grain of truth in them. The spoiled rich kid, the smug jock, the social crusading teacher, there's a reason those stock characters show up in the game, it's because nearly everyone who went to an American high school knew someone who fit those descriptions.

Yeah but that doesn't mean the writing can't feel lazy and clichéd, which I absolutely think it does in this first episode.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Calico Noose posted:

Thats nice, lets try this again. Why can't you fathom that a university has a very different social dynamic from a high school?

Because before attending university, I attended school and can judge from my personal experience? Like where do you think French developers got their ideas of what an American High School should be like? Popular culture and personal experiences with French education.


InequalityGodzilla posted:

Shockingly enough most stereotypes have at least a tiny grain of truth in them. The spoiled rich kid, the smug jock, the social crusading teacher, there's a reason those stock characters show up in the game, it's because nearly everyone who went to an American high school knew someone who fit those descriptions.
Well, I don't know, maybe a game made for a wide international audience shouldn't have relied on characters that apparently only Americans encounter in their life. Oh, wait, it's actually just that the characters are nothing BUT stereotypes (so far) and the intensity of clichéd plot points and problems characters face is astonishing.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Well, see you when Episode 2 comes out, thread. It was a good run.

Caros
May 14, 2008

Paladinus posted:

Because before attending university, I attended school and can judge from my personal experience? Like where do you think French developers got their ideas of what an American High School should be like? Popular culture and personal experiences with French education.

Well, I don't know, maybe a game made for a wide international audience shouldn't have relied on characters that apparently only Americans encounter in their life. Oh, wait, it's actually just that the characters are nothing BUT stereotypes (so far) and the intensity of clichéd plot points and problems characters face is astonishing.

I too think that a game depicting american teenagers in an american high school should not have them acting like american teenagers but instead like some weird hybrid of international cultures.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich
"I think these characters are kinda one dimensional" is a thread killer now?

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

poptart_fairy posted:

"I think these characters are kinda one dimensional" is a thread killer now?

I'm sure the thread can go on with people playing the game ironically and laughing at how stupid hipsters are (you know, those people who like things ironically) but I'm just not really feeling it. Plot has been speculated, opinions given, there's not much to do until next episode but watch people bicker back and forth :\

Rosalind
Apr 30, 2013

When we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change.

precision posted:

I'm sure the thread can go on with people playing the game ironically and laughing at how stupid hipsters are (you know, those people who like things ironically) but I'm just not really feeling it. Plot has been speculated, opinions given, there's not much to do until next episode but watch people bicker back and forth :\

You forgot post fan art!

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Caros posted:

I too think that a game depicting american teenagers in an american high school should not have them acting like american teenagers but instead like some weird hybrid of international cultures.

Yeah, no.

precision posted:

I'm sure the thread can go on with people playing the game ironically and laughing at how stupid hipsters are (you know, those people who like things ironically) but I'm just not really feeling it. Plot has been speculated, opinions given, there's not much to do until next episode but watch people bicker back and forth :\

But have we decided who's going to turn out to be a lesbian? My money is on the Christian girl. That would explain everything.

Rosalind
Apr 30, 2013

When we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change.

Paladinus posted:

But have we decided who's going to turn out to be a lesbian? My money is on the Christian girl. That would explain everything.

Plot twist is that they're all lesbians. Or at least if I had my way they'd be.

quadrophrenic
Feb 4, 2011

WIN MARNIE WIN
They're all gonna be lesbians

efb

PoizenJam
Dec 2, 2006

Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!
So my girlfriend got this last night and played through it. The concept intrigued me, the anime style didn't, but the sheer amount of cursing was what struck me. I found it hilarious, because it felt like the actors were either forcing the emotion through cursing or hesitant to curse in the first place.

I watched her play a few sections, and my one gripe was the pregnancy test thing. You can pick it up, gain the info, reverse time, still have the info and suffer no consequences. There didn't seem to be any reason to stick with the timeline where someone got pissed at you.

Most of the characters appeared really unlikable, but kind of funny in how lovely they are.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Poizen Jam posted:

So my girlfriend got this last night and played through it. The concept intrigued me, the anime style didn't

Anime style?

Rosalind
Apr 30, 2013

When we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change.

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Anime style?

Maybe she was playing a Persona game and he got confused.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

Poizen Jam posted:

I watched her play a few sections, and my one gripe was the pregnancy test thing. You can pick it up, gain the info, reverse time, still have the info and suffer no consequences. There didn't seem to be any reason to stick with the timeline where someone got pissed at you.
There's a bunch of stuff like that. Not everything has to be difficult quandary, sometimes there's an obvious right choice and sometimes you can't tell what the consequences will be. It's episode one, they throw some obvious stuff at you so you figure out how the game mechanic works.

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poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich
I dunno, I have a feeling the entire game is going to be fairly toothless when it comes to actions and consequence. I see a lot of people falling into the same trap they did with early Walking Dead episodes (myself included!) - that because says it adapts mean it actually will.

The time travel thing is neat, but it strikes me as a very meta way of seeing everything more than anything that's going to heavily impact the plot.

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