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Kazy posted:For Surface mouse chat, I prefer the Arc Mouse (Surface Edition). Folds flat, and it turns off when you flatten it to put in your bag and turns on when you bend it. It's a bit odd ergonomically, but it's a great mouse. Those things freak me out, but they seem pretty drat cool. When you say odd ergonomically do you mean it just isn't comfortable, or just weird? I'm probably gonna pick one up when I get paid tomorrow; my old Logitech mouse is still working well, but less and less devices I am buying have a dedicated USB slot, and it's old as hell anyway.
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ltugo posted:I wound up buying the TW802 myself. For an additional 40 dollars, the difference in specs is dramatic - enough that I also spent $150 on a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and usb hub to turn it into a desktop machine. It works great. I looked into that one too but decided I wanted one that was slightly smaller since I didn't intend on doing any Real Computer Work on it. Either way, it's impressive how good they are for the price. Makes me optimistic about the future for Windows tablets.
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Protocol7 posted:Those things freak me out, but they seem pretty drat cool. When you say odd ergonomically do you mean it just isn't comfortable, or just weird? I'm probably gonna pick one up when I get paid tomorrow; my old Logitech mouse is still working well, but less and less devices I am buying have a dedicated USB slot, and it's old as hell anyway. Probably referring to the fact that if you happen to like to grip your mouse by the sides : too bad. There's nothing there. It takes a little getting used to. That said, I love my Arc Mouse Surface edition.
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Call Me Charlie posted:Q: GAMES GAMES GAMES GAMES GAMES Could anyone suggest a good overlay keyboard/controller app for this?
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Nerdrock posted:Probably referring to the fact that if you happen to like to grip your mouse by the sides : too bad. There's nothing there. It takes a little getting used to. Claw grip still works, you just have to grip it closer to the 'head' where the buttons are. That's how I normally use it, anyways. The problems I found with it are that it's not very precise for tiny adjustments, and that the 'scroll wheel' seems to lose its inertia characteristic after a while (leaving it on your desk overnight for example). I think the former is an unfortunate consequence of using Bluetooth and energy saving measures, while the latter seems to be a genuine bug that other people have also reported. Power-cycling the mouse (i.e. flattening and unflattening) seems to fix the scrolling problem, but there doesn't seem to be a proper fix available.
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I've found my Toshiba Encore 2 Write to be good for sketching. I'm not a good artist, or sophisticated when it comes to the software used by digital artists, but from an amateur's perspective the Wacom pen feels great, is responsive, and is precise.
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This is probably a bit tangential to the aims of this thread but does anyone make something like the TW801 (or any of the tablets, really) with more ports but no screen? Just having a nice little microscopic desktop replacement that can run a browser and Office sounds like a killer in a small office setting.
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Roflex posted:This is probably a bit tangential to the aims of this thread but does anyone make something like the TW801 (or any of the tablets, really) with more ports but no screen? Just having a nice little microscopic desktop replacement that can run a browser and Office sounds like a killer in a small office setting. Best one I heard of is the Ainol Mini PC quote:The Ainol Mini PC is a tiny desktop computer with an Intel Atom Z3735D Bay Trail processor, 2GB of RAM, 32GB of storage, and Windows 8.1 with Bing software. It also has a built-in battery. http://liliputing.com/2015/02/ainol-windows-mini-pc-power-bank-pre-order-128.html Mainstream. HP has the HP Stream Mini and Zotac has the Pico. But those are $175-200
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isndl posted:Claw grip still works, you just have to grip it closer to the 'head' where the buttons are. That's how I normally use it, anyways. Also : the other thing is that we've always had the optical sensor in the center of the mouse's mass. It's in the front on the Arc for obvious reasons, and that can also make it feel just kind of weird. I got used to it, but that was another little issue.
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Call Me Charlie posted:Best one I heard of is the Ainol Mini PC Seems spec-for-spec identical to the TW801, but with a couple more USB ports, and maybe more battery life (probably only because there's no screen to power). Maybe Win10 will push something forward in that market.
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Mar 20, 2015 16:02
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Do they offer a version without a battery? Would be great to have a super cheap Windows media center.
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Mar 20, 2015 16:13
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The version of 8.1 I've seen on the cheap tablets doesn't come with WMC.
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Roflex posted:The version of 8.1 I've seen on the cheap tablets doesn't come with WMC. I don't mean to use actual WMC, but to just use it to hook up an external drive and stream all of my music/movies/etc.
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Mar 20, 2015 16:25
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Protocol7 posted:Do they offer a version without a battery? Would be great to have a super cheap Windows media center. There's a bunch at geekbuying http://www.geekbuying.com/category/Windows-Mini-PCs-1655/ Just do research and make sure that it comes with a legit activated Windows license. Some of the really cheap ones put an unactivated version on.
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Just noticed that the HP Stream 8 w/T-Mobile dropped to $149 on the Microsoft Store. A silly question: since the Streams run full Windows 8.1, do they have proper multitasking (say, an irc app and a browser visible simultaneously) and, if so, will they choke and die trying to do that with 1GB RAM?
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delfin posted:Just noticed that the HP Stream 8 w/T-Mobile dropped to $149 on the Microsoft Store. They have the same multitasking of Windows 8.1 in general, including multiple concurrent desktop apps. Whether or not they choke is dependent on the software you're running, but with IE and a few other things in the background my Stream 7 only hiccups seldomly.
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delfin posted:Just noticed that the HP Stream 8 w/T-Mobile dropped to $149 on the Microsoft Store. Yes, it is full windows running on an x86 PC, multitasking and all. I haven't used a tablet with 1GB RAM, but most of the people in the thread who have one have been pretty positive about the performance. Metro IE (which is the browser you'll probably end up using) is super aggressive about unloading memory.
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After booting my Winbook for the first time, opening Modern IE, and maybe the store, I went to the desktop to see how tiny everything would look and there was a message window alerting me that I was running out of memory and I should close programs or my computer would slow down. Since I wasn't doing anything I just closed the window and it has never come back up. I'm assuming there was some first-time-running stuff going on in the background that ate all the RAM. Just checked in task manager right now, with Modern IE, Kindle App, and Photos running, I'm at 73% memory usage. However, the lion's share of the memory usage is from Windows itself. Since I can plug in a keyboard and mouse, maybe later I'll use it for some desktop web browsing (with a youtube video running maybe) and see what that consumes. Any suggestions on what else to run at the same time to see where it chokes would be welcome!
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Mar 20, 2015 23:11
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Is there any ebook readers for the Surface better than Kindle? I have a ton of iBooks but of course they're locked away in the IOS platform.. I think. Anyone know a way to access them outside of Apple land?
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Mar 20, 2015 23:23
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My fiancee's kindle paperwhite is the absolute best ebook reader I've ever tried. Backlit screens can't compare.
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I'm taking about Windows apps though, dont want a dedicated reader.
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Mar 21, 2015 00:27
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I like Bookviser a lot. My eBooks are stored on OneDrive, and it integrates directly.
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TopherCStone posted:After booting my Winbook for the first time, opening Modern IE, and maybe the store, I went to the desktop to see how tiny everything would look and there was a message window alerting me that I was running out of memory and I should close programs or my computer would slow down. Since I wasn't doing anything I just closed the window and it has never come back up. I'm assuming there was some first-time-running stuff going on in the background that ate all the RAM. The only advice I can offer is that Computers have been better at managing memory for quite a while now. Memory usage is never something for a user to worry about. A youtube video and pretty much anything else should be enough to stress it pretty well.
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I just wanted to do a sanity check whether this seems a good offer: MEDION AKOYA E1234T Tablet (MD 99400) - 199 * Windows 8.1 Update * 10.1" Advanced Hyper Viewing Angle multitouch IPS 1920x1200 screen * Intel Atom Z3735F * 2GB RAM * 64GB "internal flash memory" (I'm guessing this is the same as eMMC?) * LiPo battery (~6hrs) * 802.11n Wifi with Bluetooth 4.0 * 5mpx camera on the back, 2mpx camera on the front with microphone * orientation sensor * full size SDXC card reader * 1x micro USB 2.0 (which is also the port to charge the tablet I'm assuming) * 1x micro HDMI out * 1x mic in/headphone out combo * 1 year of Office 365 (no mention of the usual 1TB OneDrive) * passive pen (just a cheap finger emulating thing I suppose) * folio protective cover * OTG cable * 257mm x 174mm x 10mm / 598.5g Considering the fact that the only sub-200 tablets they are willing to sell here are the Asus VivoTab 8, the Toshiba Encore 2 (WT8-B-102) and the HP Stream 7, which are all 1GB RAM/16GB storage affairs and everything else is either unavailable or 400 plus, this almost seems to be too good to be true. It's bigger and heavier than what I was looking at and the battery life doesn't seem spectacular. Anything else that jumps out at you guys? They're going to have a matching bluetooth keyboard cover for 30 as well, which seems like a lot, but it's pretty hard to find bluetooth keyboards in the local layout in general, so I'm thinking of picking that up too.
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Mar 23, 2015 11:22
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OneDrive provides unlimited storage now, with or without Office 365.
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Ynglaur posted:OneDrive provides unlimited storage now, with or without Office 365. Where? How? Mine still says "10 TB total / 9.76 available"
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ljw1004 posted:Where? How? Mine still says "10 TB total / 9.76 available" Apparently if you get close to 10 TB it will increase on its own. I'm nowhere near that limit, so I can't verify first-hand. This Microsoft blog gives more details.
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Honestly if unlimited storage space and 10TB of storage space are not equivalent concepts to you and you are an individual person as opposed to a business, my hat is off to you and your truly impressive porn collection 
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loquacius posted:Honestly if unlimited storage space and 10TB of storage space are not equivalent concepts to you and you are an individual person as opposed to a business, my hat is off to you and your truly impressive porn collection I've maxed out 10tb or more before. It's not hard if you focus on quality music/video. I have music albums over 1gb.
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SymmetryrtemmyS posted:I've maxed out 10tb or more before. It's not hard if you focus on quality music/video. I have music albums over 1gb. What, a double CD ripped into WAV?
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Endless Mike posted:What, a double CD ripped into WAV? DXD ripped to 24/96 FLAC. E: and 24/96 vinylrips
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For any brits in the audience, the HP Stream 7 with a year of office 365 is currently 49.99 on the MS Store with a code off hukd. Only 1GB of RAM and sadly no HDMI out, but can't really argue at that price http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-stream-7-tablet-voucher-for-49-99-with-code-microsoft-store-2170703
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Anyone else with a Surface Pro 3 having the power adapter cable shielding start to show at the tablet connection plug side?
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I saw two SP3s at school today! I'm not the only one any more!
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fordan posted:Anyone else with a Surface Pro 3 having the power adapter cable shielding start to show at the tablet connection plug side? Yes. I put heat shrink tubing over mine. Common fault.
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Here's some weird news, Microsoft's rumored to launch the Surface 3...but without ARM and Windows RT. WinBeta posted:The Surface 2 is currently Microsofts latest iteration of its Windows RT based tablet line-up. Launching back in 2013, the Surface 2 was a vast improvement over the original Surface RT, and launched alongside the Surface Pro 2, giving consumers a choice between Windows RT and Windows 8.1.
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Call Me Charlie posted:Here's some weird news, Microsoft's rumored to launch the Surface 3...but without ARM and Windows RT. I don't think it's weird at all win RT is a unmitigated failure (there were only 3 devices ever made for the platform). I thought the SP4 would be fanless and a direct competitor to the new 12in MB bit instead this let's then launch a fanless Surface with a low power processor and still launch a very high power fan based system as the SP4. I think it's fantastic news for the ecosystem.
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There was more than three. Unless you mean number sold through to consumers, in which case you're probably right.
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Stick100 posted:I don't think it's weird at all win RT is a unmitigated failure (there were only 3 devices ever made for the platform). I thought the SP4 would be fanless and a direct competitor to the new 12in MB bit instead this let's then launch a fanless Surface with a low power processor and still launch a very high power fan based system as the SP4. I think it's fantastic news for the ecosystem. I didn't mean it's weird they aren't using Windows RT, I meant it's weird they're calling it the Surface 3 instead of moving to some sort of branding that makes sense.
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