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Nostalgia4ColdWar
May 7, 2007

Good people deserve good things.

Till someone lets the winter in and the dying begins, because Old Dark Places attract Old Dark Things.
One of the biggest things that piss me off about grogs is they don't seem to understand the real world. You see it all the time. From grogs swearing that you can't walk more than 10 miles in day, because it's physically impossible to walk more than a mile without terrible foot and knee pain, to assholes saying that 150 feet with a rifle is a world record shot, to claiming katanas can cut through tank armor.

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[–]AFineWayToDie 2 points 10 months ago

If you justify a fighter having more than 2 skill points per level, I think you'd have to justify every other class having that many as well. Fighters are supposed to be good at fighting. Skills are generally not related to fighting. Hence, the fighter's lack of skill.

Because fighting only involves swinging a sword. There's no knowledge skills like tactics, or strategy, or being able to deal with flag/bugle/whistle signals, no formation learning, nothing beyond swing a sword. Military careers NEVER involve politics, or fighters would never learn the ins and outs of etiquette, or other languages, or learn to read because nothing was ever written that a fighter would care about.

It reminds me of people yelling how ridiculous it is that the fighter can swing his sword all day without fatigue because they can't walk up the stairs to the kitchen without getting winded.

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Nostalgia4ColdWar
May 7, 2007

Good people deserve good things.

Till someone lets the winter in and the dying begins, because Old Dark Places attract Old Dark Things.

ProfessorCirno posted:


D&D nerds I swear have legitimately some sort of loving psychological issue with fighters.

High school. Plain and simple. These are the people who think that it doesn't take any study to get good at a sport, that you don't have to memorize strategies and plays, they just think any athlete is a retard, because they are oh so smart. And wizards are nerds and fighters are jocks.

Speaking of fighters (some more), I've noticed there's a HUGE pushback against anything that might actually make sense in a fantasy setting regarding armor.

Alchemical blacksmithing,, strange alloys not available on earth, and all that, are fine when it's the caster, but the idea that advanced blacksmithing, unusual materials, new and different armors, for the fighter, all seem to smash face first into "THIS ISN'T ANIME/REALISTIC" when you put it forward.

Example: World has dwarves and artificers and other tech tracks that earth never had, because it ISN'T Earth, and that's OK for stupid stuff. Research into thicker but lighter armor, alloys, metal layering, and the like would be a priority for nations and militaries. New types of armor would be researched, and since these worlds have been trapped in the medieval ages for hundreds or sometimes thousands of years the idea of anything that wasn't in that relatively short period of time in Earth's history in a relatively small area of the world is a complete anathema. But the idea that this stuff would move into the martial area seems to completely bypass these guys intellect. The idea that nations and militaries would start investigating alchemical enhancement to soldiers (why not? Buff up soldiers so their 10 feet tall and have a strength of 20 means your soldier can wear more armor and will kill the enemy faster and last longer. Write a nation that emulates the Roman military, with a standing army, armor and weapon research, metallurgy, and the like, and it's unrealistic and can't exist according to these people who can accept wizards who can kill everything with a fart.

But go ahead, start a thread about armor for fighters that isn't 'historical' and you'll have people screaming bloody murder, because fighters can't have nice things.

And I'm rambling.

Related:

Sean K Reynolds posted:

Throwing out "but the magic guy can do X!" as an argument is irrelevant when we're talking about the game rules modelling what a human can physically do without magic.

gently caress YOU IF YOU AREN'T MAGIC!

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