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This entire thread is a pretty rich vein of grog. ----------------------- I hate the singular term "Game Mechanic". The correct English term is Game Mechanism. People think because there's a term like Game Mechanics, a single instance must be a Mechanic. Wrong. Game Mechanics is a collective term, sort of like Electronics. Have you ever seen an Electronic? Another is "Low Fantasy". High Fantasy does not imply Low Fantasy. High Fantasy to me refers to Fantasy where Magic is common and there are several humanoid races, usually all interfertile, full of quests, like Tolkein or Arthurian legends, or even Wagner's operas. It's like the term High Adventure. There are other types of Fantasy, more gritty where Magic is rare or only used by evil sorcerors, like Conan, or Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser (yes, I know that the Mouser used some minor Magic, but only a few low-powered bits). It's not "low", it has its own name - Swords and Sorcery. Both are signs of lazy thinking and the debasement of the language. A very common non-gaming example is the singular noun "Graphic". Graphics is a plural noun, and the singular form is an adjective, not a noun. The Singular noun is Graphic Image. Herendethelesson.
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2015 08:16 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 10:20 |
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Plague of Hats posted:You know what? I'm sure there's some sweet spot of hardware that can run IDCS5 but not IDCC. Maybe GMS is that unlucky! It's pretty annoying checking my KS activity feed and watching his updates clog everything up.
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2015 11:32 |
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If you'd like to blame him, and by extension all the other 40k enthusiasts who know their way around the setting and lore, for the "rehashed poo poo", then I bet you'd be fine with taking the blame for endless, needless pandering to people outside the actual, natural target audience. Fans of the Warhammer 40,000 franchise know what they're looking for when they enter the grim darkness of the far future, and it certainly isn't odd popmusic. It breaks the theme and mood of the setting in a silly, misguided attempt to widen the game's audience. What they don't realize is that they already have an audience, at that will be quite disappointed and alienated by actions like this.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2015 23:30 |
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Now, I've been on the convention circuit close on forty years now and there's lots of folks who'll tell you it ain't what it used to be. Hell, I sometimes think that myself, but I've gotta say that I was pretty impressed when I laid up for a 5E exhibition down in Dallas last fall. It was a pretty long drive from Amarillo, which is my usual hangout when I'm back down Lone Star way, especially at my age, but pretty much worth it. You see, us grognards have been waiting a long time for an edition that scratches some of the itches of OD&D and classic 2E and 5E pretty much delivers on a number of counts. It was a pleasure to pick up and sling some dice again with the convention crowd, even though things've changed since the days when I was a regular on the convention circuit. Hell, I remember GenCon '89, when I was in a pretty involved game with Tracy and a young Robert Salvatore. We were pretty deep into a game after hours. It must have been three in the morning and we'd gone through six extra-large pizzas for a party of five and gallons of Mountain Dew. Anyway, I was polishing off my hotwings - hell, still gotta thing for a good Buffalo Wing- and Rob was in the middle of some pretty gnarly combat against an enraged bear and a dire otter. Those were the days. I still have my Ral Partha barbarian miniature from that encounter. Anyways, while I was in Dalls I dropped in on the boys at the Dallas Eagle, which is a pretty legendary bar down Maple Avenue way where lots of grognards still hang out drinking beers, slinging dice and talking bout the old times. Tracy and I used to go down there all the time back in the 80s. He'd come down south when he had a bit of writer's block. Hell, I remember this one time back in '84 when he had a hard time coming up with idea on how to take things forward after Sturm dies. We had a couple of jugs of beer and I was packing a hell of a chubby in my jeans and chaps. So we hit the border to check out the action. Long story short, we ended up in a Chicano sauna down in Juarez and Tracy told me how everyone at TSR was still pissed of because they couldn't get Terry Brooks. Apparently some of the folks higher up the food chain thought he was queer and didn't want that to come out. Turns out Terry ain't queer, but, then again, people talk all sorts of trash these days. You've gotta understand that when guys get together, sometimes stuff happens. It's just in the nature of being men. That don't make no one queer. Look, I don't get done. We can have a good time watching some Ben Dover or Long Dong Silver and whatever happens happens. Hell, there was some pretty steamy action in the GenCon washrooms back in the day, I tell you what. Even for me and I'm pretty heavyset and my BO tends to act up when I wear my cowboy boots and chaps, but I got plenty. It was an open secret that you could get cookies from a lot of the nervous virgin types at conventions if you knew where to look. It was a greasy man's business, with lots of Crisco - those were the days before Astroglide - and those thick rubbers they used to give out. Of course nobody douched back then, but I didn't really mind the smell. Hell, after a tub of hotwings, it all more or less smells the same. Anyway, long story short, you can't really get that action no more, though it was good times at the Dallas Eagle. Still a real grognard's place with a whiff of nostalgia and stale beer. I think I'll drive up to Indy this summer for GenCon 2015. Should be good times. Peace out, man.
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2015 12:15 |
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Plague of Hats posted:
We like to laugh about how the RPG industry is in love with nostalgia, but it ain't got poo poo on comics. They're constantly dredging up stupid z-list characters so nerds can feel that weird tribalist glow when they recognise them. To the writers it's better to hamfistedly squash someone like Egg Fu into DC continuity in the year of our lord 2015 than consigning him to the dustbins of history where he belongs, because that would mean admitting sometimes the medium makes mistakes.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2015 01:36 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:BRB, designing a system where every action you attempt has a chance of causing bears to appear. This is literally RPGPundit's Gnomemurdered, but with bears instead of gnomes.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2015 00:10 |
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gtrmp posted:But even then, he's not even clever enough or committed enough to the joke to stick it out all the way to the end of the book, so eventually it degenerates into unfunny joke-free parodies like "Alien, but also with gnomes" or "Zelazny's Amber, but also with gnomes". Hey, you got fair warning it would be bad, his name is right there in the title.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2015 01:08 |
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Not sure that's grog? In the past Drivethru has done charity bundles with all proceeds going to Doctors Without Borders for natural disasters in the past, the Haiti earthquake being the most prominent example.
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2015 14:27 |
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MalcolmSheppard posted:It's multiple people making bad decisions together. New thread title please, Ettin.
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# ¿ May 1, 2015 05:17 |
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RPG.net poster asks if rpgs can be considered art, with predictable responses from the crowd. ----------------------------------------- No, this is no personal preference, this is from playing 25 plus years. This is the problem with allowing storygames to be in the same hobby as traditional games instead of storygames being their own hobby. The two get intermingled and people can't tell the difference between storygames (Such as the games from The Forge, storygames.com and FATE) and traditional games such as D&D, Traver and the like. I have said all I am going to say about this subject and I am going to leave before I get angry, as pretentiousness really annoys me to no end. I have posted two articles on my blog regarding how I feel about rpgs being art and games being a form of storytelling (because I can speak much freer there then I can here). That way we can save the moderators the trouble of having to warn me for saying something I probably shouldn't say. I'm out
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# ¿ May 12, 2015 13:41 |
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I'm imagining a game where everyone is like upcoming LoL champ Ekko.
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# ¿ May 24, 2015 11:02 |
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Ratpick posted:
There was an incredible post somewhere on the internet I wish I could find again which is about a fictional grog slowly suffering a breakdown/full on existential crisis that would make a Lovecraft protagonist look stalwart because they discover more and more of their favourite traditional RPGs describe themselves in terms of "story and narrative", with the twist ending that Mouse Guard doesn't. ProfessorCirno posted:
The usual response is "I gave someone a healing potion, so I was the "healer" for that turn and I took some hits, so I was "tanking" " Saguaro PI fucked around with this message at 22:15 on May 27, 2015 |
# ¿ May 27, 2015 22:12 |
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Plague of Hats posted:Traditional Games > Grognards.txt NEXT: RPG.net is banned from me. I'm pretty sure he had his reputation before that, but it helped cemented it. I think even the "fanart" of Ettin as a D&D Ettin with a No1 mod medal might even predate that. Lightning Lord posted:Where do we inhabitants of the old school thread fit in? Judases? SA is considered a fortress of oldschool hate, so it doesn't even occur to grogs that it would exist. Even the ones that look at this forum only check out this thread and its past iterations. I don't think many of them could handle the cognitive dissonance. It's pretty funny, because this forum (the oldschool D&D thread and F&F) has done way more to sell me on various OSR games than anywhere else. It's probably because goons here have more experience with other games and are willing to actually point when a game is flawed and so everyone isn't so hideously defensive. Saguaro PI fucked around with this message at 12:43 on May 30, 2015 |
# ¿ May 30, 2015 12:40 |
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Halloween Jack posted:Do these people pester folks on Boardgamegeek.com about how it is that a tiny Yorkshire terrier can in fact own four railroads and hotels in Atlantic City, N.J., and where that crazy idea "came from"? Why the gently caress wouldn't you? Learning about what inspired stuff in games is awesome. Learning is awesome. Halloween Jack posted:When and why did people's imaginations become so dead? You tell me, dude who finds "they probably just thought it was fun" a better solution than asking questions.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2015 03:32 |
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quote:I questioned things and tried to do things in my particular interpretation. The horror.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2015 13:19 |
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Halloween Jack posted:This is a grotesque misrepresentation of Old Geezer. I hear he also sometimes plays Advanced Squad Leader. He also played Dungeon World, after which he boasted that his table used the random streetwalker tables from AD&D in the course of the game. What an invaluable font of wisdom.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2015 08:35 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:Innocent Casters: B-b-b-but I'm out of spell slots!
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2015 14:04 |
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Mendrian posted:I love the notion that balanced play is socialist. As if what you do before the game even begins could be equated to work or deeds. "gently caress, you didn't write 'wizard' on your charactersheet, you're a goddamned Marxist." When I roll fighter, they call me a saint. When I ask why no-one wants to play fighter in the first place, they call me a socialist.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 09:23 |
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Jim Davis on the subject of women in Magic, seeing how many squares of the "people addressing sexism are the real sexists" bingo card he can tick off.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2015 02:50 |
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You loving Goons, I haven't eaten all day.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2015 07:48 |
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Tatum Girlparts posted:You have to respond pretending to not understand what they mean. This is the correct response. When someone wants to dig a hole, handing them a shovel is really just the neighbourly thing to do.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2015 02:41 |
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Fenarisk posted:I just let it go, and I only met the guys once and didn't really pry into personal stuff since it was the first time we all met and it was only for about 3 hours. I did let her read the email though and she thought it was hilarious, in a really sad way. I was mostly being facetious, having to deal with that sort of thing seems as tiring as it would be lovely. Sorry you and your friend had to put up with that nonsense
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2015 00:15 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:I was reading through 3.5 Complete Warrior (while pooping) and I came across this gem: And note that it revolves around Dodge, already an amazing example of a garbage feat.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2015 05:46 |
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ProfessorCirno posted:Never got that spell less ranger thing. Dungeons and dragons gives you brain damage.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2015 04:42 |
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Lightning Lord posted:
It really isn't any more complex than Appelcline being the boss of rpg.net, which is staffed by Known Goons, who all want to destroy real roleplaying. It doesn't get deeper than that.
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2015 16:10 |
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Terrible Opinions posted:Having a new monster book every year is pretty cool though. If a business plan that enable Howler Wasps to exist is wrong then I don't want to be right.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2015 05:35 |
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The logic is that we treat women as precious and protected and thus won't send them off to war. Yes, it's very dumb.
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2015 23:07 |
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osirisisdead posted:You're alright with the way you handled it. You're allowed to do that when you are the DM. But it's not some insurmountable, impossible, challenge and players don't get to whine. But remember, if the players had been the ones complaining and pointing this out they'd be dumbasses who clearly should be playing WoW instead.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2015 06:45 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:My initial reading of this was that he'd start trying to create products specifically in contravention of the standards, which probably speaks to my expectations regarding this crowd. Initially I thought this was Raggi, and considering this was a guy whose response to the guidelines of Free RPG Day was "You can't tell me what to do, DAD", I think tht's an entirely valid reading.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2015 22:18 |
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Have you considered that maybe Tournament of Rapists has merit as a therapy tool? Assuming this person is being honest, this post is even more than that person who needed Beasts to be abusive to work through their issues being trans. ------ I personally dislike "outrage brigade" type responses. For example reading posts against ToR I get the vibe that if the content doesn't cause me instant revulsion then I'm a horrible human being who doesn't understand how the content even existing harms people. I was coerced into having sex at a very young age and for whatever reason when I started dating most girlfriends I ended up with had also been introduced to sex pretty early in their lives too(often violently). We were all sort of warped/kinky sexually, which may have been why we were drawn to each other, and tended to think us being that way was due to our past. Maybe it was, maybe we were just born that way. But I could easily see some of those girls enjoying playing a game like ToR. Maybe content like that is therapeutic. Maybe it's a way to express learned(or innate) violent sexual urges in a safe environment where you won't be judged. Or maybe this sort of content is just bad for anyone to be exposed to, no matter what their personal history or "consenting adult" fantasy preferences. I don't particular think vilifying content created for consenting adults is especially good. To me it feels like an attempt to scour away "bad thoughts" or "wrong thinking", which doesn't seem particularly healthy to people who have to deal with the subject matter in complex human ways. Now that doesn't mean it needs to be sold on a mainstream storefront. But I don't like some of the "there's no place at all for material like this" feel to some of the outrage.
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2015 00:12 |
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paradoxGentleman posted:Found this on Tumblr some time ago while browsing the Beast the Primordial tag. Does it count as grog if it's depressing instead of terrible? Pretty sure the same person spoke about this extensively on rpg.net and yeah, it's the most grog ever.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2015 12:41 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 10:20 |
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Darwinism posted:Has anyone asked them what they think 'modern' feminism is? And what 'old-school' feminism is? "I want brownie points for supporting votes for women in the modern day, even though my general hostility to social justice suggests I would have been against it had I been around when they were being fought for."
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2015 14:26 |