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Carol Pizzamom
Jul 13, 2006

a bear you feed is a bear and a steed

HEY VAPER posted:

at least the v6 mustangs are good now

all the mustangs are not bad in 2015, but if you're not going to get a v8 you may as well get a fiesta st and have a more convenient car

the new shelby gt350 is going to be ridiculous

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psyopmonkey
Nov 15, 2008

by Lowtax
The Ariel Atom is dumb.

Any car over 18k is dumb.

Public transit is the future.

Avalanche
Feb 2, 2007
All cars.

If you're a big peen car badass go fly a loving airplane and then get back to me.

No breaks, no speed limit, and if you try and stop to get out you loving die.

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

Pivotal Lever posted:

i owned a '92 240sx coupe around the same time, the long gears made it less fun to drive than it should've been. i owned an 85 corolla gt-s (ae86) prior to that for a summer, and that car was much better to drive since the gearing actually matched the engine and the redline was at 7750. it peaked at 117 mph 5th gear, and handled better than the 240 due to the LSD and lighter weight. that was a really fun car.

yeah I had a couple B13 Sentra SE-Rs in a years after that (one stock and long neglected, the other with a SR16VE swap that revved high as gently caress with the most viscous sounding VVT cam changover of all time) and both of those were worlds more fun than the stodgy 240SX ever was. same goes for the Torsen equiped Miata that was my college commuter for a while. the 240SX transmission felt like stirring a crowbar in box of rocks and the SOHC KA24 hardbody engine was a total bore

sporty japanese shitboxes from the 80s up to the mid 90s were the best aside from the inevitable rust

Mariana Horchata fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Feb 13, 2015

open container
Sep 16, 2008

Carol Pizzamom posted:

hollly poo poo theres so many people in this thread that just have no idea how cars work at all

people caring about 0-60 times lmao. literally the performance benchmark for people who want to launch from stoplights on public streets and no one else

i guess its fun for the g's

what should i care about instead? how to learn about car?

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

open container posted:

what should i care about instead? how to learn about car?
fender gap, bass, roof racks, etc

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
i loving love passing some shitlord in his GTO trying to merge onto a highway at 35 mph, like drat you drive that wannabe fast car and you don't even know how to drive?? ha ha ha stay the gently caress off the highway bitch

Harald
Jul 10, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
well this car goes around a track .5 seconds faster than this other car

Carol Pizzamom
Jul 13, 2006

a bear you feed is a bear and a steed

open container posted:

what should i care about instead? how to learn about car?

low tier posers care about 0-60 times, but if you want to be a real car poser like me you can get into suspension geometry, tires, chassis rigidity, curb weight, aerodynamics, horsepower/torque bands, gear ratios, et cetera.

Carol Pizzamom
Jul 13, 2006

a bear you feed is a bear and a steed

Harald posted:

well this car goes around a track .5 seconds faster than this other car

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

open container posted:

what should i care about instead? how to learn about car?

buy something thats an AI forum darling with a stick shift for <$3000, take it out late at night and drive the tits off it (radar detector and AAA gold membership recommended) and when it breaks fix it with youtube videos and harbor freight tools...this really only works if ur young dumb and full of cum otherwise consider a CPO 3-series if ur wife is cool ok with the idea

Mariana Horchata fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Feb 13, 2015

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Mariana Horchata posted:

sporty japanese shitboxes from the 80s up to the mid 90s were the best aside from the inevitable rust



literally anything will rust if you drive it on a salted road which means most of the cool european cars from the 1990s are strictly do not touch territory :(

I can at least understand the cult of the M3 and STI stuff because there was a time when Subarus and BMWs were at the top of their respective world motorsport classes.

Harald
Jul 10, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
what if you made a car out of salt? salt won't rust. what are these idiots doing making cars out of iron alloys?

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

parts overnight from japan

ten second car

more than you can afford pal

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.


possibly the worst car ever designed - exposed paintwork surfaces inside on a modern execu-grade saloon? what a great idea! why not make the whole car look like a deformed egg? if this is what australians consider a good car then it probably explains a lot about Howtobasic.

dk2m
May 6, 2009
my biggest regret in life is buying an sti because now every fucker in a clapped out cavalier guns their engine at me while im just trying to get some taco bell gently caress off dude

Trochanter
Sep 14, 2007

It ain't no sin
to take off your skin, And dance around in your bones!

open container posted:

what should i care about instead? how to learn about car?

reliability, blue book value, known problems, whether you can afford it, how much it costs to service per year and most importantly test driving it and asking yourself "will I be comfortable driving this on my 100th daily commute?"

Because if you think a car is for smoking hoons at stoplights you're loving kidding yourself.

Trochanter fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Feb 13, 2015

Pivotal Lever
Sep 9, 2003

Mariana Horchata posted:

yeah I had a couple B13 Sentra SE-Rs in a years after that (one stock and long neglected, the other with a SR16VE swap that revved high as gently caress with the most viscous sounding VVT cam changover of all time) and both of those were worlds more fun than the stodgy 240SX ever was.

i had a friend with a sentra se-r, those were great cars. the sentra se-r spec v sedans remind me a lot of those, that was a solid fwd car from the '00s.

you're right about sporty econo cars from the mid 80s-mid 90s being tons of fun, i had a '91 crx that a friend welded a solid swaybar in the rear that actually slightly oversteered, an 85 audi quattro that sounded mean as gently caress and could drive thru 2 feet of snow, and an 86 jetta gli with the faux LSD that would do 3 point turns and oversteer when the inside rear wheel lifted off the ground. all of these were less than $700 each and more fun to drive than any current econo car.

dk2m
May 6, 2009

Trochanter posted:

reliability, known problems, whether you can afford it, how much it costs to service per year and most importantly test driving it and asking yourself "will I be comfortable driving this on my 100th daily commute?"

Because if you think a car is for smoking hoons at stoplights you're loving kidding yourself.

yeah but you ever done donuts at 3 in the morning with ur m8s bruv

Trochanter
Sep 14, 2007

It ain't no sin
to take off your skin, And dance around in your bones!
I flew in a prius once

Thank goodness the pine trees broke my fall

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

dk2m posted:

my biggest regret in life is buying an sti because now every fucker in a clapped out cavalier guns their engine at me while im just trying to get some taco bell gently caress off dude

One of my cars has a big gay wing on the big which was actually standard and now shitheads in Sylvias won't leave me alone when I want to go for a relaxing cruise :(


also us import laws suck and you guys miss out on a tonne of fun cars - seriously life wouldn't be worth living if I couldn't buy 200 variants of corolla from japanese auctions oh yeaaaaa

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

Butt Wizard posted:

literally anything will rust if you drive it on a salted road which means most of the cool european cars from the 1990s are strictly do not touch territory :(

I can at least understand the cult of the M3 and STI stuff because there was a time when Subarus and BMWs were at the top of their respective world motorsport classes.

all true. i even feel like an rear end in a top hat driving my still clean and rust free 190E through the last two new england winters after spending most of its past winters parked away in a garage, but then i just remind myself that its just a car and its dumb to get so attached to material objects that get driven daily year round. spraying the salt off with a pressure washer every week or so seems to be working out in the short term...plus older, pre- mid 90s german and swedish cars seem to have a strong natural resistance to the poo poo as well.

Pivotal Lever posted:

you're right about sporty econo cars from the mid 80s-mid 90s being tons of fun, i had a '91 crx that a friend welded a solid swaybar in the rear that actually slightly oversteered, an 85 audi quattro that sounded mean as gently caress and could drive thru 2 feet of snow, and an 86 jetta gli with the faux LSD that would do 3 point turns and oversteer when the inside rear wheel lifted off the ground. all of these were less than $700 each and more fun to drive than any current econo car.

totally...being the automotive equivalent of a cheap date owns

Mariana Horchata fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Feb 13, 2015

Guancho
Aug 23, 2010

You don't write any postcards when you're on the road to self-discovery
corvettes aren't bad, but 'corvette guys' are all fuckin douchebags

BigBoss
Jan 26, 2012

by Lowtax
Anything stick is a loving joke in 2015

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Mariana Horchata posted:

back in 2003 i found my way into a bone stock, mint condition 1990 Nissan 240SX fastback w/77k mi on it that i got for under $2k from a cool guy that had to lose it fast to pay for his new GTI + rent.

SImilar, I picked up a '92 hatch for $2500 for my first car in ten years around 2001. "An exhaust rattle", he said. Twenty miles later when the engine exploded in the classic coffee-can-of-screws noise I learned some car stuff real fuckin' quick. (Timing chain guides, of course).

Found an engine five hours away for $100 (yes, he was sr swapping), me and four buddies went and heaved the motor into, then out of, the back of a mom's caravan. Had a shop swap it for a couple hundo, drove it for eight years. Perfect glass, working popups, perfect paint. This factors in down below.

Was honestly kind of a dog of a car, the KA sucked so much dick till you put forced induction on it, which I bought up the parts for but never completed. I got tired of it, sold it to a guy who managed to roll a non-turbo 240SX eight days later.

I bought an E36, became a krautsled maniac, left all that poo poo behind.
240 platform was only cool until the SR clip market dried up, then you had to figure out a weirdo swap or turbo bolt-on that wasn't nearly as clean.

Harald
Jul 10, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

BigBoss posted:

Anything stick is a loving joke in 2015

wow gently caress you

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Mariana Horchata posted:

all true. i even feel like an rear end in a top hat driving my still clean and rust free 190E through the last two new england winters after spending most of its past winters parked away in a garage, but then i just remind myself that its just a car and its dumb to get so attached to material objects that get driven daily year round. spraying the salt off with a pressure washer every week or so seems to be working out in the short term...plus older, pre- mid 90s german and swedish cars seem to have a strong natural resistance to the poo poo as well.

190Es are also passable - Cosworth models especially.

German poo poo is generally pretty resistant because they didn't do stupid poo poo like certain Italian car brands who may have used salt water to cool the steel in the shells/frames and ended up impregnating the salt directly into the loving metal before painting over it. Which is a shame because most late 80s/early 90s Italian stuff otherwise owns.

dk2m
May 6, 2009

Butt Wizard posted:

One of my cars has a big gay wing on the big which was actually standard and now shitheads in Sylvias won't leave me alone when I want to go for a relaxing cruise :(


also us import laws suck and you guys miss out on a tonne of fun cars - seriously life wouldn't be worth living if I couldn't buy 200 variants of corolla from japanese auctions oh yeaaaaa

i think it's 25 years right? we're going to start seeing trickles of horribly rusted gtrs, cosmos', etc from canada start making it down here soon, if we aren't already

can't wait for the snapback crew to horribly abuse them

Orange Cat
Feb 26, 2013

HEY VAPER posted:

lol if you think miata owners are stoplight racers, and lol if you think nascar watchers would ever buy a miata. the miata is literally the car you buy if you're a car enthusiast and don't care about how fast it is.
if you want to piss off honda civic boy racers and murican musclebos, go buy a rusted out brown volvo 240 wagon and put an ls1 out of a wrecked chevy truck into it
electric cars still handle like poo poo, sure there's a lot of downforce but at the end of the day you're throwing 5,000lbs of car and batteries around a corner. on the bright side, goddamn teslas have some serious freeway passing power.

Too much to serious quote, but miatas are top choice for fun cars at the track. They are light as gently caress, easy to mod, and cheap to maintain. Slap some monster brakes and good tires on one and have a good time.

dk2m
May 6, 2009

BigBoss posted:

Anything stick is a loving joke in 2015

lol look at this scrub, how are you gonna impress the honeys since you can't rev match a perfect downshift? gently caress

Trochanter
Sep 14, 2007

It ain't no sin
to take off your skin, And dance around in your bones!

Butt Wizard posted:

190Es are also passable - Cosworth models especially.

German poo poo is generally pretty resistant because they didn't do stupid poo poo like certain Italian car brands who may have used salt water to cool the steel in the shells/frames and ended up impregnating the salt directly into the loving metal before painting over it. Which is a shame because most late 80s/early 90s Italian stuff otherwise owns.

What?! Why? Is fresh water scarce in Italy of something?

e: oh, it quenches the steel faster than fresh water.

Trochanter fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Feb 13, 2015

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

dk2m posted:

i think it's 25 years right? we're going to start seeing trickles of horribly rusted gtrs, cosmos', etc from canada start making it down here soon, if we aren't already

can't wait for the snapback crew to horribly abuse them

I think it's 25 years in the US. From what I can tell it works like this

US: 25 years, still have to pass emissions tests (?) in some states
AU: 25 years, all have to be RHD even if it means converting
NZ: 20 years, hence we get to cannibalise all the good poo poo in Japan first. LHD is a separate permit. Limited exemptions for emissions/frontal impact regs for cars newer than 20 years old.

The downside is Kiwis are absolute hoons so we've basically bought all the good R32s and we'll have first cracks at the Tomi Makinen Evos and the decent Imprezas too.

Trochanter posted:

What?! Why? Is fresh water scarce in Italy of something?

No but apparently not being a shithead was in short supply. It basically affected one model of car and apparently they were already visibly rusting as the truck took them out the front gate of the factory. Some of their other cars rusted too but no more than any other car given the equivalent treatment but the damage was done and everyone associated them with rust, even when they were building arguably the greatest hatchback ever built with zero problems.

Butt Wizard fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Feb 13, 2015

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Shadow posted:

Once the price is right though, you gotta admit those cars are loving insane.

And the loving center console is SICK. It's like a space ship.

You mean that dumb tablet in the dash? Yeah it gerts washed out in direct sun and sometimes it bugs out and crashes and you can't do poo poo

It took several service visits to get it down from keeps crashing to occasionally crashes

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

There used to be lots of RHD cars in BC but I think they don't want to keep importing them. Don't see as many crazy sports cars though but lots of Delicas and Kei cars.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Nefarious posted:

*jeremy clarkson voice*

i'm a tremendous human being

Trochanter
Sep 14, 2007

It ain't no sin
to take off your skin, And dance around in your bones!

Butt Wizard posted:


No but apparently not being a shithead was in short supply. It basically affected one model of car and apparently they were already visibly rusting as the truck took them out the front gate of the factory. Some of their other cars rusted too but no more than any other car given the equivalent treatment but the damage was done and everyone associated them with rust, even when they were building arguably the greatest hatchback ever built with zero problems.


All right, I give up. My google-fu is weak. Which car is it? A Lancia Beta? Fiat 124? Alfa Romeo Alfasud?

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

Butt Wizard posted:

190Es are also passable - Cosworth models especially.

German poo poo is generally pretty resistant because they didn't do stupid poo poo like certain Italian car brands who may have used salt water to cool the steel in the shells/frames and ended up impregnating the salt directly into the loving metal before painting over it. Which is a shame because most late 80s/early 90s Italian stuff otherwise owns.

2.6 M103 smooooth six for me (but def nothing wrong with any of the 16V Cossies - and iirc their still fairly cheap compared to the $20k minimum E30 M3s), its really just a comfortable and classy slightly retro miniature smoker barge to me that makes me feel like a like a 90s rapper...i got it off a friend after losing half the compression in my WRX 10k or so miles after its first first timing belt job (despite me treating that thing like a disney princess) and subsequently getting completely fed up with cars which i still kinda am.



i decided that its time to finally give motorcycles a try come springtime so i already got an 80s Honda 250 dual sport thats mine once my rebate check comes in, then i just need to pick up a moto learners permit. so looking forward to ripping around town in that and commuting to work in the morning via the woods...

Butt Wizard posted:

Yea, the Betas. Lancia have to be the most amazing car company for having built possibly the worst car ever but also some the best.

a Stratos would be my daily if I was a 1%er

Mariana Horchata fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Feb 13, 2015

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Trochanter posted:

All right, I give up. My google-fu is weak. Which car is it? A Lancia Beta? Fiat 124? Alfa Romeo Alfasud?

Yea, the Betas. Lancia have to be the most amazing car company for having built possibly the worst car ever but also some the best.

E: Bonus round

It probably saved Holden for a little while, but it also means that the interior of Aussie Commodores have a whole bunch of out-of-place stuff and poo poo that makes no sense just so they could switch the driver position to LHD. I'd imagine it's the same for the GTO but in reverse.


Butt Wizard fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Feb 13, 2015

Pivotal Lever
Sep 9, 2003

Jonny 290 posted:

Was honestly kind of a dog of a car, the KA sucked so much dick till you put forced induction on it, which I bought up the parts for but never completed. I got tired of it, sold it to a guy who managed to roll a non-turbo 240SX eight days later.

haha how the gently caress is that even possible, did you get any details about it?

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Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Mariana Horchata posted:

a Stratos would be my daily if I was a 1%er

There is finally a decent replica that doesn't drive like total poo poo:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-video/video-can-lancia-stratos-replica-be-better-real-thing

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