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Endorph posted:real talk madoka is my favorite anime of all time and even i hate how much praise people give it I liked it but seeing Urobochi rehash a bunch of the same aspects in Gaim made me like it a bit less.
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everythingWasBees posted:I liked it but seeing Urobochi rehash a bunch of the same aspects in Gaim made me like it a bit less. shouldn't that make you like gaim less
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everythingWasBees posted:It would've made a really good superhero drama if it aimed for a demographic a bit older than it did. everythingWasBees posted:I liked it but seeing Urobochi rehash a bunch of the same aspects in Gaim made me like it a bit less. He stole a lot of stuff in Madoka from Ryuki.
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Cake Attack posted:shouldn't that make you like gaim less it made me like both less. Gaim significantly more so. Endorph posted:maybe urobuchi just wanted to write a kamen rider series the whole time 
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Feb 18, 2015 18:10
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that feel when you realize anime story telling has peaked with Magical Girls Puella Magi Madoka
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WickedHate posted:Then we wouldn't have dancing fruit samurai. I'm just upset because they got rid of the dancing and we could have had just straight warring states with superpowered dance battles. 
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Feb 18, 2015 18:11
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almost every author tends to repeat themes so i don't really see the problem
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Davincie posted:almost every author tends to repeat themes so i don't really see the problem
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Dick Spacious CPA posted:that feel when you realize anime story telling has peaked with
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Feb 18, 2015 18:17
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me after watching another masterpiece series by General Urobutchi 
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everythingWasBees posted:I'm just upset because they got rid of the dancing and we could have had just straight warring states with superpowered dance battles. That reminds me, to me Gaim drops the ball with how it set up stuff in the begining and then didn't really live up to any of it later on. The warring state flashforwards being an alternate universe Mai goes to for no real reason where nothing happens and Mai just messing up everything she actually wanted to say were both really terrible.
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Feb 18, 2015 18:20
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Endorph posted:real talk madoka is my favorite anime of all time and even i hate how much praise people give it It's at the very least my favourite anime of the 21st century. However the Madoka thread is probably one of the most insufferable things I've ever read in my entire life.
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Sakurazuka posted:It's at the very least my favourite anime of the 21st century. However the Madoka thread is probably one of the most insufferable things I've ever read in my entire life.
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Feb 18, 2015 18:29
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Madoka is a really good show by itself but it inspired a bunch trend of dark magical girl stuff, like Watchmen accidentally resulting in the Dark Age of Comic Books back in the 90s. Sailor Nothing did it first anyway. Everyone should read Sailor Nothing.
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Feb 18, 2015 18:32
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Eh, really? I can't think of that many magical girl shows that were super dark after Madoka. I guess there's Wixoss, and Yuki Yona, but that's about it, and those were years after the fact. Wixoss isn't even really a 'magical girl' show.
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Feb 18, 2015 18:36
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Not really, I can think of what like three?-ish since Madoka came out and two of those were from last year.
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Feb 18, 2015 18:37
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Madoka was OK and I have no real strong feelings about it either way. Admittedly I watched after it fully aired to see what all the hype and hubbub was about.
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Endorph posted:Eh, really? I can't think of that many magical girl shows that were super dark after Madoka. I guess there's Wixoss, and Yuki Yona, but that's about it, and those were years after the fact. Wixoss isn't even really a 'magical girl' show. There's also The Sun Penetrates the Illusion.
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I loving hate Madoka it ruined my life
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Endorph posted:im still confused and unnerved by people who think madoka was trying to deliver a sick own on normal magical girl shows, or that those shows deserved some sort of sick own lol if you dont critically analyze the plot holes in entertainment written for 3 year old girls
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Silver2195 posted:There's also The Sun Penetrates the Illusion. That's the other one I was thinking of, it was so boring I stopped watching half way through. Much like WIXOSS and Yuki Yuna actually. Yuki Yuna was okay-ish though, I'm gonna go back to it one day.
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Endorph posted:Eh, really? I can't think of that many magical girl shows that were super dark after Madoka. I guess there's Wixoss, and Yuki Yona, but that's about it, and those were years after the fact. Wixoss isn't even really a 'magical girl' show. e:f;b
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Madoka's alright Urobuchi's alright I should early watch Gaim
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okay, that's three. And of those I'd say Daybreak Illusion is the only direct ripoff, Yuki and Wixoss went in pretty different directions even if they were obviously influenced by it. Honestly the thing I've really noticed about Madoka influencing later anime are way more shallow. Like drill hair coming back into vogue.
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aers posted:I loving hate Madoka it ruined my life Sakurazuka posted:Not really, I can think of what like three?-ish since Madoka came out and two of those were from last year.
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aers posted:lol if you dont critically analyze the plot holes in entertainment written for 3 year old girls Most of the magical girl shows that really deserve to be picked apart are aimed at adult men.
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Twiddy posted:It was less that it spawned a bunch of shows trying to be Madoka Magica and more that every other show with a somewhat dark theme was compared to Madoka Magica or was apparently trying to be Madoka Magica for oh... about 3 years after it aired. faustian bargains got ruined by madoka
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Twiddy posted:It was less that it spawned a bunch of shows trying to be Madoka Magica and more that every other show with a somewhat dark theme was compared to Madoka Magica or was apparently trying to be Madoka Magica for oh... about 3 years after it aired. Now that I do remember, ugh.
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Endorph posted:yeah basically Basically, most people are really stupid.
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Feb 18, 2015 18:47
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Blockhouse posted:Madoka's alright Please do. It's such an incredible show. It's one of the best live action television productions I've ever seen, like, it's up there with Twin Peaks.
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WickedHate posted:Please do. It's such an incredible show. It's one of the best live action television productions I've ever seen, like, it's up there with Twin Peaks. I'm actually making this face right now  , no seriously, bill and everything.
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Twiddy posted:The funniest part to me was that Madoka Magica became known for having a "sudden shift" towards being dark and all I saw when I saw it were deep dark shadows and just about every film technique possible for "this is not gonna be a cute adorable ride." Over time that got turned into 'the first 3 episodes are completely normal magical girl stuff until Mami dies,' even though the opening shot is creepy chanting and dramatic orchestra while Madoka stands in a ruined city.
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Blockhouse posted:the problem is I generally watch poo poo with my fiance to make sure I keep focused on it and don't drop it out of sheer absentmindedness after a few episode but she refuses to get emotionally attached to a Rider series again after Fourze broke her heart It's completely different, if that helps. Also, awesome for watching stuff with your fiance! That's cool. Sakurazuka posted:I'm actually making this face right now Kamen Rider Gaim is really, really good. 
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WickedHate posted:Kamen Rider Gaim is really, really good. It's more the best TV production you've ever seen and comparison to Twin Peaks we're concerned about.
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I watched the first episode of Madoka a while after it aired and it didn't really draw my interest but her mom and family were pretty cool. That's my Madoka story.
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Allarion posted:It's more the best TV production you've ever seen and comparison to Twin Peaks we're concerned about. I love Breaking Bad and Gaim blew it out of the loving water. It's just such an incredible story. Like, a modern epic. It's kind of sad it's one series in an annual franchise. It really deserves to stand on it's own. It should be like The Wire where people decades from now are pointing back to Gaim as an amazing show.
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i forgot about the Madoka mom. adding her to my hot and sexy moms of anime and manga spreadsheet
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