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PetSmart and our local rescue shelter had an adoption drive today. All dogs were from the local animal shelter. I'm 99% finished adopting a Pitbull/Boxer mix (brindle color!) She's 2 years old, fixed, and will be current on all her shots after I pay the adoption fee, but there is one huge gently caress off issue: she's heartworm positive. The shelter representative told me that if I adopt, she'll be given the heartworm treatment at no cost to me, but I will need to pay for the follow up antibiotic drugs and heartworm medicine. I can't take her home until this Wednesday because the treatment is a two day affair. Once I take her home she's mine, but I need to maintain a routine heartworm preventative regime. Now, my question is, even though she'll be treated, should I follow through with buying a dog with a fatal heart condition? Isn't this like buying a car that has a big sticker on it that says "EXPLOSIONS POSITIVE," but the dealer says they'll totally get rid of those 'splosions as soon as I sign on the dotted line. What other things should I look out for when taking home a recently heartworm treated dog? Bonus picture of the dog in question. No giant forehead jokes. 
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Feb 14, 2015 22:12
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I adopted a dog under almost these exact conditions, and after the adoption was finalized the rescue claimed that they never set up the appointments / lost the paperwork. So now we have a heart worm positive dog! If you do this, make sure she gets treated before you finalize everything. Also, she will have to stay very, very calm for 30 days after the shots.
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Feb 16, 2015 00:34
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I've heard there's to be no excitement for a few weeks. I'm more worried that the dog won't get along with our cat. I'm going to call them to,or row to try and socialize them for a little. Gauge the dogs reaction. Update. The meet and greet went well. The dog sniffed and sniffed our cat in his carrier, who promptly hissed one time at the dog. After that the dog came back two times for more sniffing and our cat didn't hiss. The shelter also let the resident shelter cat, who's free to roam around the shelter, interact with the dog. The dog sniffed her thoroughly and got a sound hissing and a swat to the face. The dog flinched and backed up and didn't show any signs of trying to fight back! I would bet money though that if the cat ran Wiggles would give a merry chase. Better invest in a good harness/leash because this dog has some spunk. My wife, on the other hand got herself worked up over the fact that this dog is clearly a pit mixed with something. Our housing agency doesn't allow pit bulls because of the ignorant and prejudicial opinion that pit bulls are vicious baby murderers. The shelter went ahead and wrote Boxer Mix as the breed, and honestly I can see boxer in her, but I can also see a lot of pit. Our paperwork won't indicate anything suspicious should our housing management people ask to see documentation on the breed. The only way this could be a problem is if she bites someone or a particularly lovely person presumes to rat us out, and I was some how ordered to get a doggie DNA test, but they can go gently caress themselves if they think that will happen 
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Feb 16, 2015 05:30
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There's nothing prejudiced about the concern that out of control pit bulls are dangerous to people and their pets. If someone's shih tzu is bad tempered and gets loose no one is going to die as a result of it. Pitbulls wouldn't be banned from so many places if they weren't constantly mauling people or other dogs.
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Feb 16, 2015 22:02
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adebisi lives posted:There's nothing prejudiced about the concern that out of control pit bulls are dangerous to people and their pets. If someone's shih tzu is bad tempered and gets loose no one is going to die as a result of it. Pitbulls wouldn't be banned from so many places if they weren't constantly mauling people or other dogs. 
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Feb 17, 2015 00:19
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I may be wrong but she looks way small to be a pit/boxer? More like a staffordshire/staff mix?
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Feb 17, 2015 02:36
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tada.wav posted:I may be wrong but she looks way small to be a pit/boxer? More like a staffordshire/staff mix? Isn't the staffordshire terrier the breed name for a pit bull?
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Feb 17, 2015 03:20
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:Isn't the staffordshire terrier the breed name for a pit bull?
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Feb 17, 2015 03:36
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Slugworth posted:No, but the differences are pretty minor. So if a housing company says 'no pit bulls' that pretty much means no staffordshires right? I don't know what she is, but the shelter says boxer mix.
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Feb 17, 2015 04:32
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:So if a housing company says 'no pit bulls' that pretty much means no staffordshires right? I don't know what she is, but the shelter says boxer mix.
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Feb 17, 2015 05:17
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adebisi lives isn't that far off. Pits tend to exhibit a higher incidence of dog aggression, and have been bred to be tenacious and athletic. It can spell bad news for other dogs and small animals if you're not careful. Rather than denying this, the responsible thing would be to accept it as a possibility and be mindful of your management. Try not to take anything for granted.
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Feb 17, 2015 16:44
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Slugworth posted:Who knows. There are people better informed than myself on the intricacies of the breeds, but A) It's probably not a staff if you are in the US. B) If it's not a APBT, then it's probably an AmStaff, which were essentially derived from APBTs to be less aggressive, and better as house pets. I would think that'd be a decent argument for getting it past a 'no pitbulls' policy, but the type of people to make those policies probably aren't overly understanding of slight differences in breeds. That's why most shelters will happily oblige if you want the paperwork to list the dog as something other than APBT or AmStaff or pit mix. The dog in the photograph could easily be a boxer mix. Pixelated Dragon fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Feb 17, 2015 |
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Feb 17, 2015 17:39
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Pits, English Staffies and Amstaffs are all pretty distinct breeds despite probably having common ancestors and purposes 'bully' types all tend to be strong and energetic and may have varying levels of aggression towards dogs or other animals Get the deal for heartworm treatment in writing.
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Feb 17, 2015 20:13
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At my shelter we do heartworm dogs as "foster-to-adopt." This means that you have agreed to provide a safe environment for post-treatment care at your home, with the intention of adopting at the end, though the shelter arranges and pays for the treatment until the time the adoption is final. We do this so we have a contract stating that you will work with us to provide medical care (even when we offer to pay for stuff you would be amazed at how often people simply don't provide necessary vet care) while still having a better place for the dog to recover than a kennel full of 60 other barking dogs. It is a bit strange that they want to provide treatment immediately without providing any follow-up care. Our dogs stay monitored for at least 60 days post-treatment before we finalize. I would talk to the shelter vet directly, not through an adoption associate. If you met the dog at an event, the person you spoke with likely has limited knowledge on heartworm or veterinary medicine, and might even be a volunteer and not an employee. If the shelter does not have a staff veterinarian, find out who they contract with (which vet made the diagnosis) and do your follow-up with them. Heartworm is a condition that varies so greatly in its effects on the animal that you do not want to go into this blind. You may have a dog you can give Heartgard and doxycycline to and everything will be better in a month or so, or you may have a dog with a case so severe that it would be inhumane to delay treatment. If you get satisfactory info from the vet and decide to go through with everything, talk to your own vet and explain what is going on. They will share their medical opinions on that course of treatment, and since they will be your main resource following the adoption, you want to make sure they will be able to support you through recovery. This article is a few years old, but is a really good starting point from a widely respected vet. TL,DR: Talk to every veterinarian on earth.
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Feb 17, 2015 23:41
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thatbastardken posted:Pits, English Staffies and Amstaffs are all pretty distinct breeds despite probably having common ancestors and purposes We introduced the dog to our older cat. He was in a carrier and only hissed once. The shelter cat hissed twice and swatted at the dog, but that made the dog do it's play bow thing and want to wrassle. I didn't see anything that suggested aggression towards the cats. I am worried that *something* is going to come up and I'll get shafted with a fuckheug vet bill for some aspect of heartworm treatment, but that's because I'm a cynical fucker who knows too much about life to have anything resembling optimism. It would also be exceedingly deceitful on the shelter part, so I"ll trust that when they say they're going to give the dog the ~$400 heartworm drugs, they will, and the worms will be dead.
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Feb 17, 2015 23:51
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ugh is this a pitbull thread
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Feb 19, 2015 01:01
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i hope your shelter shitbull doesnt kill your cat
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Feb 19, 2015 01:01
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or your kid, godspeed
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Feb 19, 2015 01:02
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wow you guys are stupid jerks.
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Feb 19, 2015 03:16
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:wow you guys are stupid jerks. Supercnsndr is essentially a pitbull related gimmick account at this point, don't worry about it.
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Feb 19, 2015 03:25
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Pit type dogs of unknown breeding are a poor choice for an inexperienced owner with a cat and a kid and a rental agreement for a laundry list of reasons but ok
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Feb 19, 2015 03:27
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Please always keep your pit on leash at your apartment complex for the sake of other dogs. I've had to stop/avert at least two "hurf durf my pit is friendly" off leash attacks this week. Pits are not apartment dogs (for the vast majority of owners).
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Feb 19, 2015 04:16
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:wow you guys are stupid jerks. Mate don't ask for advice and get shirty when people offer it.
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Feb 19, 2015 04:21
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He's posting in the new dog thread right now and educating everyone about pit bulls.
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Feb 19, 2015 04:27
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Realtalk OP I've been deeply involved in APBTs for a decade so if you ever have any management questions shoot me a PM and I'll do my best to help you come up with a game plan, they're great dogs but only when managed in a realistic and thorough way.
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Feb 19, 2015 04:36
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Like mentioned, make sure that heartworm treatment agreement is ironclad and yeah make sure you provide plenty of high, out of reach safe places for your cat/kid to escape to if the dog gets overly excited (which would be bad anyways post-treatment). Otherwise good luck, dogs cute.
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Superconsndar posted:Realtalk OP I've been deeply involved in APBTs for a decade so if you ever have any management questions shoot me a PM and I'll do my best to help you come up with a game plan, they're great dogs but only when managed in a realistic and thorough way. You could have said that instead of making GBS threads up my thread. Guess you showed me, cool guy. I'm bleeding here from your edge. thatbastardken posted:Mate don't ask for advice and get shirty when people offer it. Lol he didn't offer any advice he just poo poo posted. 'Hope ur shitbull doant eat ur cats' isn't advice. Then he shits up the Dogs thread with an e/n sob story about being bitten by a pit bull, and then says he's been deeply involved with ABPTs for a decade. gently caress this retarded baby. lite_sleepr fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Feb 19, 2015 |
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What the hell shelter/rescue is PetSmart working with that doesn't require you to either a) have them call your landlord or b) show the shelter your rental agreement? Like gently caress me, I got a loving CORGI puppy and the breeder had me bring a copy of the rental agreement to show him so the puppy would never end up abandoned or something. I would maybe not trust anything from that particular shelter ESPECIALLY A HEARTWORM POSITIVE DOG, but whatever, it's your life, you're the one with a child and a terrier in an apartment.
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Feb 19, 2015 05:22
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:You could have said that instead of making GBS threads up my thread. Guess you showed me, cool guy. I'm bleeding here from your edge. WELCOME TO PET ISLAND, MOTHERFUCKER
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Feb 19, 2015 05:23
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ButWhatIf posted:What the hell shelter/rescue is PetSmart working with that doesn't require you to either a) have them call your landlord or b) show the shelter your rental agreement? Like gently caress me, I got a loving CORGI puppy and the breeder had me bring a copy of the rental agreement to show him so the puppy would never end up abandoned or something. I would maybe not trust anything from that particular shelter ESPECIALLY A HEARTWORM POSITIVE DOG, but whatever, it's your life, you're the one with a child and a terrier in an apartment. Oh I forgot you can only rent apartments. Not 4 bedroom homes. You bought from a breeder, which indicates ONE person. I'm buying from a shelter. Sorry your breeder was invasive and wanted to see your pay stubs or whatever. How much loving assuming can there be in one lovely forum?
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Feb 19, 2015 05:23
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:You could have said that instead of making GBS threads up my thread. Guess you showed me, cool guy. I'm bleeding here from your edge. Please don't panic
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Feb 19, 2015 05:24
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:Oh I forgot you can only rent apartments. Not 4 bedroom homes. well you know what they say about assuming
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Feb 19, 2015 05:24
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:Oh I forgot you can only rent apartments. Not 4 bedroom homes. I rented with pits for years, houses and apartments, still applies. There is no need to be upset
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Superconsndar posted:I rented with pits for years, houses and apartments, still applies. There is no need to be upset http://forums.somethingawful.com/newreply.php?action=newreply&postid=441749216#post441738797 http://forums.somethingawful.com/newreply.php?action=newreply&postid=441749216#post441738828 http://forums.somethingawful.com/newreply.php?action=newreply&postid=441749216#post441738839 http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3471773&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=109#post441746973 http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3700934&pagenumber=1&perpage=40#post441747419 Whats your story dude? Are you The Pit Bull Whisperer or are you a very very bad poster?
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Feb 19, 2015 05:28
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pls validate my lovely life choices
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Feb 19, 2015 05:29
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:Whats your story dude? Are you The Pit Bull Whisperer or are you a very very bad poster? Por que no los dos
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Feb 19, 2015 05:30
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:Oh I forgot you can only rent apartments. Not 4 bedroom homes. lol if you think that breeder is INVASIVE you should just gently caress off and not try to own a dog of any kind, much less one with actual behavior traits also gently caress you for saying WE'RE all assuming and then dismissing literally all of us, despite that I'm a professional dog behavior specialist and super knows more about pits and bully breeds than anyone else on this forum
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Feb 19, 2015 05:36
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:http://forums.somethingawful.com/newreply.php?action=newreply&postid=441749216#post441738797 PRESIDENT GOKU is asking the real questions in this thread
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ButWhatIf posted:lol if you think that breeder is INVASIVE you should just gently caress off and not try to own a dog of any kind, much less one with actual behavior traits *replies to post with shitposts* *gets inflated ego hurt when not taken seriously* *is a pet island superstar* I never mentioned once I lived in an apartment but I was mocked for bringing a bully breed into my tiny apartment I don't have. You people have been nothing but hostile and antagonistic, and if you scroll up and read super's posts and still try to shout me down for dismissing a Champion Pit Bull Master you can gently caress off.
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:*replies to post with shitposts* The Internet Is Serious Business
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