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slicing up eyeballs
Oct 19, 2005

I got me two olives and a couple of limes


I'm here to help you make a good decision and that decision is to stop posting for a while. Maybe come back when your bp is normal and read the advice because it's all legit and from good sources. Plus nobody will make fun of you for reading posts.

SincereSnipe :bsdsnype:

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Triangulum
Oct 3, 2007

by Lowtax
here i will help you make a good decision: dont adopt a hw positive pit when your building bans pits and you very painfully obviously know nothing about them

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003

by Radio Games Forum

adventure in the sandbox posted:

The Internet Is Serious Business

I'm sorry but you don't get to post garbage and then fall back on being a professional. It's childish plain and simple. I shudder to think what a real life paying person would do to Super or BWI if they were as cunty and rude to their face as they have been to me. I started asking questions at the top of this post, and super posts his jerky poo poo, and I'm the rear end in a top hat? I can't comprehend such sophomoric behavior.

But hey, everyone gets a free pass because lol internet. Everyone continue giving your great dog advice to other Dog Behavior Specialists, and don't stop shouting down outsiders who come in looking for help like super did. Guy says he's a pit bull expert and he used snark and lovely insults to introduce this fact. Worst forum ever.

lite_sleepr fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Feb 19, 2015

adventure in the sandbox
Nov 24, 2005



Things change


Triangulum posted:

here i will help you make a good decision: dont adopt a hw positive pit when your building bans pits and you very painfully obviously know nothing about them

Um he doesn't live in an apartment building can't you read

ButWhatIf
Jun 24, 2009

HA HA HA

PRESIDENT GOKU posted:

I'm sorry but you don't get to post garbage and then fall back on being a professional. It's childish plain and simple. I shudder to think what a real life paying person would do to Super or BWI if they were as cunty and rude to their face as they have been to me. I started asking questions at the top of this post, and super posts his jerky poo poo, and I'm the rear end in a top hat? I can't comprehend such sophomoric behavior.

But hey, everyone gets a free pass because lol internet.

are you kidding me this is the advice i gave you

"Yes, that dog you impulse adopted is a pit mix. Pit bulls have a notoriously strong prey drive, are generally not very great with smaller animals (or other dogs), and if your landlord includes them in their banned breed list, it is a terrible idea to lie to them and expect them to not evict you or fine you or something similar. I would never recommend one for someone living in an apartment with a small child and also a cat. I also really really think the shelter did a terrible job placing the dog if they didn't even ask to see your rental agreement to check their banned breed list. I would not trust that shelter to choose the correct owners and if the dog is heartworm positive I also do not trust that shelter to not completely gently caress you over on future vet stuff and medication costs."

aside from the OMG NOT AN APARTMENT please point out on the dollie where i touched u

adventure in the sandbox
Nov 24, 2005



Things change


PRESIDENT GOKU posted:

I'm sorry but you don't get to post garbage and then fall back on being a professional. It's childish plain and simple. I shudder to think what a real life paying person would do to Super or BWI if they were as cunty and rude to their face as they have been to me. I started asking questions at the top of this post, and super posts his jerky poo poo, and I'm the rear end in a top hat? I can't comprehend such sophomoric behavior.

But hey, everyone gets a free pass because lol internet.

GOKU, sometimes people like to have a bit of fun in life. You got all butthurt and insulted, for stupid minor reasons, you big gay baby.

The advice is still legit. I hope you return the dog to the lovely people who let you take it home.

Supercondescending
Jul 4, 2007

ok frankies now lets get in formation
No one's hurt dude, you're the one freaking out and using words like "sophomoric" unironically

FYI I had a HW positive dog with a severe case (CHF by the time it was caught) when I was growing up who recovered and went on to live another 9 years (he was about 6 at the time of treatment.) His medical costs were about 2k, but that was around 15 years ago, so YMMV.

Other than that, never, ever leave the dog alone with the cat unsupervised. Research prey drive management and plan accordingly and you should be fine. I'm currently managing two APBTs around livestock and they're doing well, but that can change in an instant. It did for me when I let my guard down for one moment after years of flawless management and it cost me a puppy and a cat. They're extremely rewarding dogs when you're realistic and educated about what they're for, how they work, and what that means management-wise.

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003

by Radio Games Forum

adventure in the sandbox posted:

GOKU, sometimes people like to have a bit of fun in life. You got all butthurt and insulted, for stupid minor reasons, you big gay baby.

The advice is still legit. I hope you return the dog to the lovely people who let you take it home.

Shut up. I haven't actually brought the dog home! It's still waiting on the heartworm drug at the shelter!

Superconsndar posted:

No one's hurt dude, you're the one freaking out and using words like "sophomoric" unironically

FYI I had a HW positive dog with a severe case (CHF by the time it was caught) when I was growing up who recovered and went on to live another 9 years (he was about 6 at the time of treatment.) His medical costs were about 2k, but that was around 15 years ago, so YMMV.

Other than that, never, ever leave the dog alone with the cat unsupervised. Research prey drive management and plan accordingly and you should be fine. I'm currently managing two APBTs around livestock and they're doing well, but that can change in an instant. It did for me when I let my guard down for one moment after years of flawless management and it cost me a puppy and a cat. They're extremely rewarding dogs when you're realistic and educated about what they're for, how they work, and what that means management-wise.

Of course I did you stupid fucker. Go back, read your initial posts. They offered nothing and were inflammatory. It's like you're looking for a fight. Would it be so hard to act like a grown up and say that you are in fact a pit bull expert with a decade of exposure to them without your impossibly retarded preamble? How can you sit there and get so childishly indignant about not being taken seriously when you post like you did?

adventure in the sandbox
Nov 24, 2005



Things change


PRESIDENT GOKU posted:

Shut up. I haven't actually brought the dog home! It's still waiting on the heartworm drug at the shelter!

Oh whoops sorry please continue to not have this dog in your lovely single-family detached home.

Supercondescending
Jul 4, 2007

ok frankies now lets get in formation
Stop cussing at me :(

ButWhatIf
Jun 24, 2009

HA HA HA

PRESIDENT GOKU posted:

Of course I did you stupid fucker. Go back, read your initial posts. They offered nothing and were inflammatory. It's like you're looking for a fight. Would it be so hard to act like a grown up and say that you are in fact a pit bull expert with a decade of exposure to them without your impossibly retarded preamble? How can you sit there and get so childishly indignant about not being taken seriously when you post like you did?

wait who's looking for a fight? is it, perhaps, YOU? you were given sensible and polite advice and you chose to call me cunty so basically i no longer give a gently caress what you do and i hope that dog's future heartworm costs bankrupt you.

Nione
Jun 3, 2006

Welcome to Trophy Island
Rub my tummy

PRESIDENT GOKU posted:

Of course I did you stupid fucker. Go back, read your initial posts. They offered nothing and were inflammatory. It's like you're looking for a fight. Would it be so hard to act like a grown up and say that you are in fact a pit bull expert with a decade of exposure to them without your impossibly retarded preamble? How can you sit there and get so childishly indignant about not being taken seriously when you post like you did?

Do you need a hug?

Maybe post a picture of your cat. Cats are nice.

Plus then after your dog kills it we can all look back fondly on what might have been.

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003

by Radio Games Forum

adventure in the sandbox posted:

Oh whoops sorry please continue to not have this dog in your lovely single-family detached home.

I'll also continue to not have any of you shitters in it either!

Seriously the lot of you need to learn human social skills, and maybe develop communication skills that at first don't involve recidivist, snarky condescension, then feigned insult when your glorious expertise is dismissed based on your conflicting stories. God drat in one breath the dude went from gently caress pit bulls to I was BIT by one! :qq: to I'm actually a sophisticated pit bull master. Dudes legit bipolar, and you guys are enablers.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Sorry PRESIDENT GOKU, this thread is way too entertaining to close. OPEN SESAME

6-Ethyl Bearcat
Apr 27, 2008

Go out

PRESIDENT GOKU posted:

I'm sorry but you don't get to post garbage and then fall back on being a professional. It's childish plain and simple. I shudder to think what a real life paying person would do to Super or BWI if they were as cunty and rude to their face as they have been to me.

I'm sorry that your questions on this here casual internet subforum were not answered in a satisfactory manner. Would you like to try again?

adventure in the sandbox
Nov 24, 2005



Things change


LITERALLY A BIRD posted:

Sorry PRESIDENT GOKU, this thread is way too entertaining to close. OPEN SESAME

birbmod you are the mod we need but not the mod we deserve

Supercondescending
Jul 4, 2007

ok frankies now lets get in formation

LITERALLY A BIRD posted:

Sorry PRESIDENT GOKU, this thread is way too entertaining to close. OPEN SESAME

It's taken 8 years, and my mod dreams have finally come true

Triangulum
Oct 3, 2007

by Lowtax
unironically shoot all pit bulls because they attract faggots like OP

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

ButWhatIf
Jun 24, 2009

HA HA HA

PRESIDENT GOKU posted:

Dudes legit bipolar, and you guys are enablers.

I'm sorry, are you an Actual Psychologist? No? Because I was under the impression that people who posted with authority on a subject were actual authorities. I guess that's just how we in Pet Island roll -- actually knowing poo poo.

adventure in the sandbox
Nov 24, 2005



Things change


Superconsndar posted:

It's taken 8 years, and my mod dreams have finally come true

Its poo poo like this thread that makes PI worth reading.

Deep Thoreau
Aug 16, 2008

Look just duct tape your cat and kid to the pit. It's the fastest way to get 'em all used to each other.

Supercondescending
Jul 4, 2007

ok frankies now lets get in formation

PRESIDENT GOKU posted:

I'll also continue to not have any of you shitters in it either!

Seriously the lot of you need to learn human social skills, and maybe develop communication skills that at first don't involve recidivist, snarky condescension, then feigned insult when your glorious expertise is dismissed based on your conflicting stories. God drat in one breath the dude went from gently caress pit bulls to I was BIT by one! :qq: to I'm actually a sophisticated pit bull master. Dudes legit bipolar, and you guys are enablers.

You could lurk or read a post history, instead of having a gay baby tantrum while accusing everyone else of gay baby tantrums

ButWhatIf
Jun 24, 2009

HA HA HA

Superconsndar posted:

You could lurk or read a post history, instead of having a gay baby tantrum while accusing everyone else of gay baby tantrums

reading is HARD tho

adventure in the sandbox
Nov 24, 2005



Things change


ButWhatIf posted:

reading is HARD tho

Yeah, people kept assuming he lived in an apartment :( rude!

an expert
Jul 18, 2011


i never post because of stalker but i thought that i should weigh in on this topic seeing as i am an expert

your dog is a pit mix and the reason people are posting a bunch at you is because no one wants to see you or your kid or your cat or anyone else get hurt by a preventable thing :( we just want everyone to be safe and good and caution is good ok? like if u bought a car and the kind of car was known for occasionally having the breaks go out, we would be like "hey man just make sure u got good insurance and know the number for a tow truck", u would be like "oh yeah its cool i keep that info in my glovebox i would never drive for 2 days without brakes"

and then we could all maybe get pizza or something? ok? ok be safe president goku take care man i voted for u

ps BWI is good at dogs, super is good at dogs but i guess her dogs are gay or something? idk

Nione
Jun 3, 2006

Welcome to Trophy Island
Rub my tummy

an expert posted:

"i would never drive for 2 days without brakes"

Clearly not actually an expert.

Supercondescending
Jul 4, 2007

ok frankies now lets get in formation

an expert posted:



ps BWI is good at dogs, super is good at dogs but i guess her dogs are gay or something? idk

Well I mean



(op note: this is one of my two current shitbulls, he is lil bitty like the dog ur adopting and is about 35 lbs, and is a heavily family bred Jeep/Tab dog so he is about as real as it gets. He would kill that dog humping him in a second if I weren't standing right there and he didn't have hundreds of hours of work under his belt with a lot more to go. Most of what you hear and read about pit bulls is dead wrong, including (especially!) the positive stuff, the sources you've apparently researched from are awful, and they are largely not good pets for novice families as a general rule. When they gently caress up, they gently caress up bad, and if you try to train or manage them "like any other dog," it's a matter of "when" they gently caress up and not "if.") Be careful with her.

Supercondescending
Jul 4, 2007

ok frankies now lets get in formation

Triangulum posted:

unironically shoot all pit bulls because they attract faggots like OP

this is basically why i am the way i am, the OP is every rescue pit owner on earth

ButWhatIf
Jun 24, 2009

HA HA HA

PRESIDENT GOKU posted:

I'll also continue to not have any of you shitters in it either!

Seriously the lot of you need to learn human social skills, and maybe develop communication skills that at first don't involve recidivist, snarky condescension, then feigned insult when your glorious expertise is dismissed based on your conflicting stories. God drat in one breath the dude went from gently caress pit bulls to I was BIT by one! :qq: to I'm actually a sophisticated pit bull master. Dudes legit bipolar, and you guys are enablers.

I'm legit entertained by people who SEEK US OUT as a forum that knows things about stuff, don't hear what they want to hear in the tone they want to hear it in, then scream "I'M LEAVING AND NEVER COMING BACK" as though we invited him in the first place and as though him taking his ignorance away harms us in some manner. What do they expect to get out of that, exactly? Moreover, what do they expect us to get out of that?

Supercondescending
Jul 4, 2007

ok frankies now lets get in formation

ButWhatIf posted:

I'm legit entertained by people who SEEK US OUT as a forum that knows things about stuff, don't hear what they want to hear in the tone they want to hear it in, then scream "I'M LEAVING AND NEVER COMING BACK" as though we invited him in the first place and as though him taking his ignorance away harms us in some manner. What do they expect to get out of that, exactly? Moreover, what do they expect us to get out of that?

DO YOU TALK TO YOUR CLIENTS THAT WAY

ButWhatIf
Jun 24, 2009

HA HA HA

Superconsndar posted:

DO YOU TALK TO YOUR CLIENTS THAT WAY

Give them polite advice and suggest that they not throw around racial slurs? Yeah pretty much. Only they actually pay me, so I would be able to give a poo poo past that point.

P.S. i would not take/keep a client who called me "cunty" and threw a giant tantrum because some other person i agreed with said something in a tone they couldn't process.

Supercondescending
Jul 4, 2007

ok frankies now lets get in formation
im still trying to parse why "i hope it doesnt eat your cat or your kid" was offensive enough to cause a multiple thread meltdown

Triangulum
Oct 3, 2007

by Lowtax
its a RESCUE he's doing a GOOD thing, i dont know why you westminister showdog loving morons cant understand that. this dog could be a breed ambassador

ButWhatIf
Jun 24, 2009

HA HA HA
according to post history he was already pissed off bc he couldn't get a fallout: new vegas mod to work so this was just THE LAST STRAW i guess

PartyCrown
Dec 31, 2007
I'm not a pit-type dog nerd (my thing is working huskies and other sled dogs), but I know about/have experience with dogs with extremely high prey drives and poo poo and I think the best decision you could make would be to return the dog and get another lab or something.
Most of what you read on the internet is rescuemommy trash-- none of it is actually rooted in anything resembling real science, and is largely based on a sort of perverse, blindly ignorant optimism that they seem to need in order to function.
What Super and BWI have told you is coming from a tremendous backing of very real experience and knowledge. While you may have found the tone offensive, you've also been on SA for over 10 years and should honestly have grown a thick enough skin or some other poo poo to be able to handle it.
Stop being a big dumb baby. Stop throwing a big dumb baby tantrum.
Listen to the people that know better. They're right, and it's in your best interest to do so.

Fluffy Bunnies
Jan 10, 2009

To be perfectly honest I've always been of the opinion in that it's all how you raise them. Yes drive is a thing but I don't really think that it's applicable here. I'm sure that the OP has considered all of the things that BWI and that uncouth Supercondescending (lol) have thought of and I bet that he's just really excited to bring his dog home. :3:

OP I hope that you and your brand new pet have a bunch of fun years together and I hope you don't get probated for this big misunderstanding. This seems so silly to me. Maybe Super's just had a really bad day, or something's up and she doesn't really mean it all that way. :) PI is a cool place to ask stuff about pets and you totally should keep this thread open.

While I usually prefer to buy my dogs, I think rescuing is a great thing to do too and I'm happy that you did it. I think that you should post more pics of the dog and cat together after they have time to bond. Maybe they could have a neat thread like Tycho and Refurb do.

Puppies. Rainbows. Kittens. Okinawa.

:japan: :love:

Tamarillo
Aug 6, 2009
ughhhh :effort: on the off chance President Goku is still reading

Yes Super is a giant female cock who spent the first few posts making GBS threads with you but she is also actually spot on about pretty much everything she said about APBT behaviour and you'd struggle to find someone here who knows more (or gives a poo poo more) than she does.

Superconsndar posted:

Realtalk OP I've been deeply involved in APBTs for a decade so if you ever have any management questions shoot me a PM and I'll do my best to help you come up with a game plan, they're great dogs but only when managed in a realistic and thorough way.

This was actually serious and instead of going OMFG SO MEAN it would have been better to take her up on her offer. The thing about being bit was a fib. If you can ignore the surface layer of shitbull it's solid advice you should seriously consider rather then getting spooked off. It is the same as someone being like "my dog is a butt I hate my dog" when they are actually all "I love my dog and will tattoo my dog on my chest in devotion" internally except apply that across an entire breed and add that the advice comes packaged in broken glass, barbed wire and offensive comments about your ancestry.

Also with a young kid around and new to the breed I'd probably join the line of everyone else and say go for a breed that's a little easier. Half my family own staffies, which are not APBTs but are still a 'bully' breed and even if they don't have quite the same level of aggression they are incredibly strong and have a higher prey drive than other dogs. I literally could not walk my aunt's staffy because he pulled like a motherfucker and I knew I couldn't stop him if poo poo went down with other dogs (usually started by the other dog but definitely finished by him).

Of course I am risk adverse and ended up with a sheltie as my First Dog As An Adult. He is a yappy shitmachine but his temperament was a perfect match for us, his prey drive is sufficiently low so the cats are safe, he's smart and can pick up on my fumbling attempts to train him, and underpinning all that he is not big/strong enough to do serious damage if it all goes south.

Edit: get a maremma

Edit #2: \/\/\/ Cockladies

Tamarillo fucked around with this message at 08:40 on Feb 19, 2015

Chido
Dec 7, 2003

Butterflies fluttering on my face!

So goons can be assholes and troll each other in other subforums but if your feelings get hurt in PI, that means we're a bunch of crazy catladies?

ButWhatIf
Jun 24, 2009

HA HA HA
I fixed your thread for you

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Fraction
Mar 27, 2010

CATS RULE DOGS DROOL

FERRETS ARE ALSO PRETTY MEH, HONESTLY


Chido posted:

So goons can be assholes and troll each other in other subforums but if your feelings get hurt in PI, that means we're a bunch of crazy catladies?

That is correct

I can't believe I agree with fluffy bunnies itt

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