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krampster2
Jun 26, 2014

like for a decades and decades of your life everything's been pretty normal and society hasn't changed much and then then internet comes along an you're all like "what the faaaark!??"

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Not_Rainbow_Horse
Nov 11, 2013
kill all men

Redkist
Mar 5, 2005
Fonkay fressh!

krampster2 posted:

like for a decades and decades of your life everything's been pretty normal and society hasn't changed much and then then internet comes along an you're all like "what the faaaark!??"

yeah haha lmao irony xd

Ocean Book
Sep 27, 2010

:yum: - hi
society changes constantly over the course of a current old persons life

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop
My grandparents started to get confused about technology back in the 80's. The internet sort of topped it off, except for my grandma on my mother's side. She learned how to use email 15 years ago, and I've received shitloads of racist propaganda since. That is, until I blocked her.

quakster
Jul 21, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
"transnigger thousand yard stare"

a whole buncha crows
May 8, 2003

WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHO TO HATE, WE HATE OURSELVES.-SA USER NATION (AKA ME!)

Ocean Book posted:

society changes constantly over the course of a current old persons life

black people have had so many different names to them

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD0dJSaax90

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

I have an 88-year old professor.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
"hmm yes the second world war, creation of modern feminism and attempts to remove institutionalised racism were big, but have you SEEN those goons? Wacky stuff."

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
i want you all to tell your elders about bronies

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

hello :)

Ocean Book posted:

society changes constantly over the course of a current old persons life

this has only really been true in this last century. most of the time in histiory life changes far more slowly. really thats where "tradition" and "culture" comes from. its just old people stuck in their ways for long enough with no reason to change

of course a lot of things truly change constantly but the human lifespan is pitifully short

unassertive boy 99
Dec 7, 2014

by Ralp
i'm here for the hot girl in the siggy

Ocean Book
Sep 27, 2010

:yum: - hi

1gnoirents posted:

this has only really been true in this last century. most of the time in histiory life changes far more slowly. really thats where "tradition" and "culture" comes from. its just old people stuck in their ways for long enough with no reason to change

of course a lot of things truly change constantly but the human lifespan is pitifully short

last two centuries at least. but yeah thats why i said current old person. i was gonna make a point about how what would be really weird would be to live in a feudal society transitioning into a modern one, but i didnt feel like typing. and now ive gone and done it. drat dang it

unassertive boy 99
Dec 7, 2014

by Ralp
Change didn't happen before the internet

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.
Back in my day you had to wait till after 11 to call long distance.

Jerry Mumphrey
Mar 11, 2004

by zen death robot

(and can't post for 4 years!)

me when I'm 90 -->

Bimmi
Nov 8, 2009


someday
but not today
It's starting to happen to me. I don't really understand or see the point of "computing on the cloud" and I'll be goddamned if I loving text someone with my huge meaty fingers when I could just as soon call them. Also apparently MP3s are old hat now and I never even loving noticed.

It will happen to all of us eventually, and we will know in that way that death is imminent.

Kehveli
Apr 1, 2009

Push It Like You Push Your Girlfriend

Bimmi posted:

It will happen to all of us eventually, and we will know in that way that death is imminent.

it's a point where you just go well, I've had a good run but now im done. just not gonna bother trying to stay on top of that poo poo, im good right here. got all i need thanks.

Internetjack
Sep 15, 2007

oh god how did this get here i am not good with computers
Top Cop
Just to emphasize some of the last 100+ years; my grandparents saw in their lifetimes such new things as:

automobiles
commercial air travel
telephones, on a consumer scale
electricity, and refrigeration, in households
television
two world wars
vaccines
space travel
satellites with instant global communications

One grandmother traveled as a teenager from Alabama to California with her family by mule and covered wagon.

That all being said, there have always been mind-blowing changes and developments in human history, perhaps they are just a bit more frequent, and quickly communicated these days.

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

Internetjack posted:



That all being said, there have always been mind-blowing changes and developments in human history, perhaps they are just a bit more frequent, and quickly communicated these days.

I disagree The vast majority of human history until recently was fairly static. You lived almost exactly like your parents did and there parents and so on, most likely doing the same work. Change was not common.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
Extremely important discoveries and progress was made in several major communities many times throughout history. It's just that no one knows about them because the societies/people who came up with them were conquered and completely destroyed by some rear end in a top hat warlord 2800 years ago and no one wrote anything down

Beige
Sep 13, 2004
I'll never kill myself because I want to live in the future. Seriouspost :colbert:

a dog from hell
Oct 18, 2009

by zen death robot
The internet is probably crazy to people who've been around a long time because of how its affected people, not just because it exists as a thing. I agree OP its pretty wild and cyber punk

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop

Zzulu posted:

i want you all to tell your elders about bronies

I'm afraid that could give them an aneurysm. Need to start with simpler, less hosed up things first, and work yourself up to that.

lonesomedwarf
Mar 22, 2010

im related to mary ward

Genesplicer
Oct 19, 2002

I give your invention the worst grade imaginable: An A-minus-minus!

Total Clam
25 years ago I worked in a hospital. I used to have the occasional conversation with people who had been born before the turn of the century and were still coherent. I would ask them what was the biggest difference they saw in society. I remember one old lady (born in 1899) mentioning that she could remember her parents talking about the brand new invention, the airplane. Her mom thought it would amount to nothing more than an expensive toy for rich people, but her dad thought it might eventually have a big impact on travel.

The thing that really got her was the fact that she was alive when the first plane flew, and was still alive when humans walked on the moon. She did point out that it seemed to her that the evolution of society seemed to speed up every year. She wondered what it would be like by the time the 2000's rolled around.

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

genesplicer posted:

25 years ago I worked in a hospital. I used to have the occasional conversation with people who had been born before the turn of the century and were still coherent. I would ask them what was the biggest difference they saw in society. I remember one old lady (born in 1899) mentioning that she could remember her parents talking about the brand new invention, the airplane. Her mom thought it would amount to nothing more than an expensive toy for rich people, but her dad thought it might eventually have a big impact on travel.

The thing that really got her was the fact that she was alive when the first plane flew, and was still alive when humans walked on the moon. She did point out that it seemed to her that the evolution of society seemed to speed up every year. She wondered what it would be like by the time the 2000's rolled around.

It does seem to be speeding up - I wonder if there's a "Moore's Law" corollary.


It's interesting to consider the change in mindset. We today expect change - we expect the future to be markedly different (and better). As opposed to most people thoughout history, who would have no expectations whatsoever.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
50 years from now... can you imagine the kind of iphones they'd make???????

All our progress is going to be focused on videogames and phones from now on

NihilismNow
Aug 31, 2003
Good thing that's all done now. Moore's law is going to hit a wall soon. All that is left are retarded apps for innovation. Your children will live much the same life as you did, but worse due to dwindling resources and increased international competition.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme
there was a book called future shock i read in high school that suggested society was starting to change at faster and faster rates. eventually it will cause severe psychological issues in people. like culture shock, except instead of traveling to a new place you're traveling to a new time.

although i'm not really sure how much i agree with the premise. our society has not really changed that much from the 1970s. the car is still our main mode of transportation. we don't really get to places much faster than we used to. our education system is largely the same. we all still have TVs in our house but now they're just nicer and bigger. instead of ordering stuff from catalogs we order from the internet, big whoop. fundamentally society has not changed that much i think. the only thing that is changing faster are the endless new types of entertainment items designed to distract you for a few seconds longer from your pathetic life.

lonesomedwarf
Mar 22, 2010

looking for ward main stream virtual reality pornography with force feed back vagina and penis

lonesomedwarf
Mar 22, 2010

so i can masturbate

Hobohemian
Sep 30, 2005

by XyloJW

NihilismNow posted:

Good thing that's all done now. Moore's law is going to hit a wall soon. All that is left are retarded apps for innovation. Your children will live much the same life as you did, but worse due to dwindling resources and increased international competition.

I thought after that we were supposed to get quantum computers that suck our dicks while we ride in driverless cars?

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

Concerned Citizen posted:

there was a book called future shock i read in high school that suggested society was starting to change at faster and faster rates. eventually it will cause severe psychological issues in people. like culture shock, except instead of traveling to a new place you're traveling to a new time.

although i'm not really sure how much i agree with the premise. our society has not really changed that much from the 1970s. the car is still our main mode of transportation. we don't really get to places much faster than we used to. our education system is largely the same. we all still have TVs in our house but now they're just nicer and bigger. instead of ordering stuff from catalogs we order from the internet, big whoop. fundamentally society has not changed that much i think. the only thing that is changing faster are the endless new types of entertainment items designed to distract you for a few seconds longer from your pathetic life.

The internet is quite revolutionary in many more ways than just entertainment.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
quantum computers, after they're actually invented, will be used to spy and record our actions for years before the tech will ever hit something you can buy in a box with a Hewlett-Packard or Apple logo on it

Genesplicer
Oct 19, 2002

I give your invention the worst grade imaginable: An A-minus-minus!

Total Clam

redshirt posted:

It does seem to be speeding up - I wonder if there's a "Moore's Law" corollary.


It's interesting to consider the change in mindset. We today expect change - we expect the future to be markedly different (and better). As opposed to most people thoughout history, who would have no expectations whatsoever.

William Manchester, in his book A World Lit Only by Fire, pointed out that for most of human history, change was so slow that it was not noticed by the average person. If you had a person from a European town in the year 900 and dropped them into the same town in the year 1300, very little would have changed in the intervening centuries, and our time-traveling peasant would have very little trouble fitting in.

Now imagine a New Yorker from 1950 being dropped into NYC in 2015. In less than a lifetime, there have been significant changes. Most of these changes are technology-based, but they still have had a huge influence on society.

Hobohemian
Sep 30, 2005

by XyloJW

Jonny 290 posted:

quantum computers, after they're actually invented, will be used to spy and record our actions for years before the tech will ever hit something you can buy in a box with a Hewlett-Packard or Apple logo on it

Do you think anyone is gonna give a poo poo about that while they're getting a hummer by their hummer. while it also does all the work of driving?

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

genesplicer posted:

William Manchester, in his book A World Lit Only by Fire, pointed out that for most of human history, change was so slow that it was not noticed by the average person. If you had a person from a European town in the year 900 and dropped them into the same town in the year 1300, very little would have changed in the intervening centuries, and our time-traveling peasant would have very little trouble fitting in.

Now imagine a New Yorker from 1950 being dropped into NYC in 2015. In less than a lifetime, there have been significant changes. Most of these changes are technology-based, but they still have had a huge influence on society.

Indeed. It goes the other way too, of course, as rural areas are abandoned or war destroys a society. A dude from 1950's Kabul would be shocked to see his city today, in a bad way.

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BONE DOG
Jun 7, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
I saw a picture of a woman with "the fun center" tattooed around her rear end in a top hat. In fifty years from now there will be a little old lady waiting for a bus with "the fun center" tattooed on her rear end in a top hat and no one would ever guess that

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