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exe cummings
Jan 22, 2005

how do i avoid awful latency when playing on a MIDI keyboard into a DAW (via usb)?

synpe: https://soundcloud.com/exant/alright

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Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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evacuate meatspace posted:

i'd be interested to see what you come up with. do you do that multiple looper/chain select thing?

I found a neat max4live plugin for looping without a pedal. it records instantly upon input and then plays back without intervention: http://maxforlive.com/library/device.php?id=1007

I use this when I want to avoid count-ins and to leave no chance of introducing silence at the start of the loop.

Nothing amazing, but ableton's looper is pretty limited and looping software seems scarce. i had a bad time with mobius looper

before i bugged out of town i did manage to finish two

all non drum tones are bass guitar

https://soundcloud.com/jonny290/shadow-of-moon
https://soundcloud.com/jonny290/crumbling

that max thing looks cool as hell! and yeah ableton's looper is rough. i figure it out well enough tho

Flat Daddy
Dec 3, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

yard salad posted:

how do i avoid awful latency when playing on a MIDI keyboard into a DAW (via usb)?

synpe: https://soundcloud.com/exant/alright

nice . what are these drum samples from (that start at 0:08)? i heard them before and i want

edit - if you're on Windows the most important thing is to use an ASIO audio driver if you're not already

exe cummings
Jan 22, 2005

no idea - all the samples are the sounds included in Ableton Live. i think i have the basic edition so it's pretty limited. i'll check when i get a chance

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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its me i'm installig asio4all for my ensoniq audiopci and its 1998 and im feelin like a B O S S

wayfinder
Jul 7, 2003
having buttons and poo poo is so overrated

in real life but especially on screen god dammit

Zam Wesell
Mar 22, 2009

[Zam is suddenly shot in the neck by a toxic dart; Anakin and Obi-Wan see a "rocket-man" take off and fly away, and Zam dies]
the bcr2000 is p good. using it as a controller/editor thing for my MKS-50.

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

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Grimey Drawer

yard salad posted:

how do i avoid awful latency when playing on a MIDI keyboard into a DAW (via usb)?

synpe: https://soundcloud.com/exant/alright

could be a number of things. what midi interface are you using? is the keyboard spitting usb out or are you using a midi-to-usb interface? if the latter, some of the cheaper ones there are complete poo poo and will drop notes and whatnot

the other possibility is that your daw is just set up shitfully. if you're on windows make sure you're using asio drivers. if you don't have one for your sound card try asio4all and see if it makes things work. if you are using asio drivers, try reducing buffer size and number in your daw or soundcard control panel

exe cummings
Jan 22, 2005

i'll check to make sure im using asio drivers, the keyboards i have are direct to usb

Zam Wesell
Mar 22, 2009

[Zam is suddenly shot in the neck by a toxic dart; Anakin and Obi-Wan see a "rocket-man" take off and fly away, and Zam dies]

yard salad posted:

i'll check to make sure im using asio drivers, the keyboards i have are direct to usb

yeah asio might solve all your problems!

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Jun 3, 2008

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Grimey Drawer
if you've dicked about with those settings and it still sucks, the next things i would check would depend on what you're trying to control with the keyboard. if it's samples, your disk may be too slow or you may have too little RAM. if synth, it could be processor power or RAM

most likely candidate is just crap setup in DAW/soundcard or a crap USB interface though, don't go upgrading your compy until you exhaust the options there.

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yard salad posted:

i'll check to make sure im using asio drivers, the keyboards i have are direct to usb

okay so probably not the usb interface per se unless your computer only has usb 1.0 ins

exe cummings
Jan 22, 2005

Trig Discipline posted:

if you've dicked about with those settings and it still sucks, the next things i would check would depend on what you're trying to control with the keyboard. if it's samples, your disk may be too slow or you may have too little RAM. if synth, it could be processor power or RAM

most likely candidate is just crap setup in DAW/soundcard or a crap USB interface though, don't go upgrading your compy until you exhaust the options there.

heh, my pc is a top of the line gaming rig, no problems there

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Grimey Drawer
okay yeah then asio4all and tweaking buffers will probably do it for you

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that being said, the experience of hooking up one's first real deal no bullshit pro audio interface and slamming the latency sliders all the way down and it still works is p amazing

when i had that echo layla it would do like 0.8 mS latency with no skipping at 44k

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Jonny 290 posted:

that being said, the experience of hooking up one's first real deal no bullshit pro audio interface and slamming the latency sliders all the way down and it still works is p amazing

when i had that echo layla it would do like 0.8 mS latency with no skipping at 44k

ns. and it's gotten to the point now where you don't have to buy a new one every couple of years because $cool_new_thing just came out. you can buy a good pro interface and expect it to be worth owning for at least five years if not more. i've had my focusrite saffire pro 40 forfuckinever and still see literally no reason whatsoever to trade it for anything else. before that i had a motu 828mkii and i wouldn't have even traded that for the saffire if it hadn't been for firewire problems

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



828mkii is still the heart of my studio w/ thunderbolt->fw800->fw400

so happy yospos has its own bleep bloop thread

i got my first big-boy studio monitor system so i can produce out of the bedroom, otherwise i've always done it live with an 18" 1000w sub and two 15" 625w PAs, for the late night stuff I need it a little more refined for the younger crowd

lately i've been on a learning synthesis trip, i have a bass station ii and just got a discount littleBits synth kit and i'm impressed. i have a video of me spazzing out about it for a friend, i'll make a better one with acid filter sweeps a little later today.

software-wise i'm not feeling tied to any particular synth, i'm obssessive when it comes to plugins and have most if not all of them (super bummed about alchemy being done tho :( ) serum is waiting for me for when i get into wavetable, fm8 has been really fun (are there any other great fm softsynths?) d16's gear is dope

biggest hurdle has been programming macro controls for all the software i use. at home i work out of ableton (though have wanted to get renoise for over a year to mess with) and keep my live setup to what i can put up on a two-tier stand, so an analog bass synth, push for sequencing, apc40 for clips and sends, and a padkontrol for effects and x-y. sitting down at the end of each day still takes a lot out of me, but i keep plugging and will see where it takes me.

https://soundcloud.com/nickprince/amen-bass-synth-sequence

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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the overhead and setup and system tie-in is the real bitch.

anybody can run ableton or a shitload of this and that. it takes real planning, testing, and organization to get your macros and midi Y's and virtual audio cables and this and that set up.
and its an even bigger challenge to make that setup reproducible and stable

live shows are murphy's law land. everything always breaks and fucks up

I'm writing a snippet/track a day, i have really bad phones/monitors right now though so its all mixed dumb. just remembering my renoise keyz

http://yourlisten.com/jonny290/thwang bad
http://yourlisten.com/jonny290/derrrr less bad

i know its all stock patches more or less (well first track is sequenced drums) but hey i am saving new files and thats all that matters

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my generalized goal for this year is to crank out somewhere between 2 and 8 tracks that im happy with and maybe play a couple shows later in the fall to promote

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






spankmeister posted:

is it like a miniature midi synth inside the plug because that would own

please c/d

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

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spankmeister posted:

is it like a miniature midi synth inside the plug because that would own

google says yes

https://janostman.wordpress.com/page/5/

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008







NICE!

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






here's a track i played on my SC-155 synth: http://tindeck.com/listen/dgwl

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



Jonny 290 posted:

the overhead and setup and system tie-in is the real bitch.

anybody can run ableton or a shitload of this and that. it takes real planning, testing, and organization to get your macros and midi Y's and virtual audio cables and this and that set up.
and its an even bigger challenge to make that setup reproducible and stable

it's really not helping how poo poo soundflower is for 10.9 still. it's not completely terrible to do internal routing on a per track basis in ableton, i just need more send controls (always more)

quote:

I'm writing a snippet/track a day, i have really bad phones/monitors right now though so its all mixed dumb. just remembering my renoise keyz

http://yourlisten.com/jonny290/thwang bad
http://yourlisten.com/jonny290/derrrr less bad

first track just needs the individual drum hits EQ'd and centered, that synth sounds really thin and could use another sawtooth and emphasis on the high freq

second track, bass synth is missing low end on the synth and bass drum kicks, layer more. the high hats could create a little more space by increasing the delay time on them and there'd be high ride to go on when listening

quote:

i know its all stock patches more or less (well first track is sequenced drums) but hey i am saving new files and thats all that matters

record everything

just shot vid of my current live setup in bedroom. i basically have a bunch of tracks i'm feeling saved in clip packs to dj with and then line up my next track/improvisation with whatever plugin i'm feeling and mood i'm in. gonna say i've had remarkable stability despite heaps of :filez: and controllers. i perform only 3-4 times a year now, in the summer it can sometimes be every weekend (it's nice owning your own soundsystem) but when it starts to turn into "does this guy take requests" i buy a growler and go home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atCq-BSIysw

2013 solstice montage of our dope rear end local crew :bape:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqtvWgmHsys

and this is dope if you like classic drum machines and detroit techno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WjgBNYDWtE

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

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Grimey Drawer
lol apple just secretly bought camel audio and people are piiissssseed

now all of the people out there who make fun of us logic users can gobble our collective knobs

Jonny 290
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thanks for the listen unless, and i would like to take this opportunity to ensure that you do not get a "OH MY GOD DO NOT CRITIQUE MY ART" vibe when I say the following, because I certainly do not mean it as such: lol dude i am writing this poo poo with loving Logitech H800 bluetooth headphones from work, we can revisit eq and mixdown chat around, like, july or so when i can get some proper earpieces

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



Trig Discipline posted:

lol apple just secretly bought camel audio and people are piiissssseed

now all of the people out there who make fun of us logic users can gobble our collective knobs

if i can't switch from granular to additive synthesis in my dashboard as easily as changing gears in my new apple iHorselesscarriage i will be loving livid.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Trig Discipline posted:

lol apple just secretly bought camel audio and people are piiissssseed

now all of the people out there who make fun of us logic users can gobble our collective knobs

now will apple finally start taking its ios stuff seriously? for one of many instances there's a ton of stuff on garage band that runs behind the scenes but is mostly inaccessible to the user

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



most unexpected synth-culture thing i learned this year

“Devo’s cynicism was born of having once cared too much. Unlike Ubu, Devo had been hippies, of a sort. Gerald V. Casale and Mark Mothersbaugh, the group’s conceptual core, were among the antiwar students protesting at Ohio’s Kent State University that fateful May morning in 1970 when the National Guard opened fire. Two of the four slaughtered students—Allison Krause and Jeffrey Miller—were friends of Casale’s. “They were just really smart liberal kids, eighteen and nineteen, doing what we all did back then,” he says. “They weren’t crazy sociopaths.” He recalls the dazed, slow-motion sensation when the guns started firing, “like being in a car accident,” the blood streaming down “the sidewalk, the eerie sound of moaning from the crowd, “like a kennel of hurt puppies.” At first, “even the National Guard was frozen, freaked out. Then they marched us off campus and the university was shut down for three months.”
May 4, 1970, is one of several contenders for the day the sixties died. “For me it was the turning point,” says Casale bitterly. “Suddenly I saw it all clearly: All these kids with their idealism, it was very naïve.” Participants in SDS (Students for a Democratic Society) such as Casale reached a crossroads. “After Kent, it seemed like you could either join a guerrilla group like the Weather Underground, actually try assassinating some of these evil people—the way they had murdered anybody in the sixties who’d tried to make a difference—or you could just make some kind of wacked-out creative Dada art response. Which is what Devo did.”
Devo was born in the three months Kent was closed down.”

Excerpt From: Reynolds, Simon. “Rip It Up and Start Again."

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Jun 3, 2008

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Unless posted:

most unexpected synth-culture thing i learned this year

“Devo’s cynicism was born of having once cared too much. Unlike Ubu, Devo had been hippies, of a sort. Gerald V. Casale and Mark Mothersbaugh, the group’s conceptual core, were among the antiwar students protesting at Ohio’s Kent State University that fateful May morning in 1970 when the National Guard opened fire. Two of the four slaughtered students—Allison Krause and Jeffrey Miller—were friends of Casale’s. “They were just really smart liberal kids, eighteen and nineteen, doing what we all did back then,” he says. “They weren’t crazy sociopaths.” He recalls the dazed, slow-motion sensation when the guns started firing, “like being in a car accident,” the blood streaming down “the sidewalk, the eerie sound of moaning from the crowd, “like a kennel of hurt puppies.” At first, “even the National Guard was frozen, freaked out. Then they marched us off campus and the university was shut down for three months.”
May 4, 1970, is one of several contenders for the day the sixties died. “For me it was the turning point,” says Casale bitterly. “Suddenly I saw it all clearly: All these kids with their idealism, it was very naïve.” Participants in SDS (Students for a Democratic Society) such as Casale reached a crossroads. “After Kent, it seemed like you could either join a guerrilla group like the Weather Underground, actually try assassinating some of these evil people—the way they had murdered anybody in the sixties who’d tried to make a difference—or you could just make some kind of wacked-out creative Dada art response. Which is what Devo did.”
Devo was born in the three months Kent was closed down.”

Excerpt From: Reynolds, Simon. “Rip It Up and Start Again."

holy poo poo

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

yeah there was a little blurb about that at the rock and roll hall of fame, i v much recommend it

Share Bear
Apr 27, 2004

remember when casale did jihad jerry

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



quote:

wacked-out creative Dada art response

mods plz kthx

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

where's a good resource (or keywords) for patch making on various synths?

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



theflyingexecutive posted:

where's a good resource (or keywords) for patch making on various synths?

does a really good job on explaining the different ways of hearing sounds so you model them via envelope and LFO parameters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atvtBE6t48M

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



og devo is rad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JdS-sSKsBc

that intro has been sampled so much, crazy it's only in the music video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b-nFSUXcuM

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



last bit of sick filthy nasty oscillators

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPwCmhvmHeM

plogue's chipsounds is the software poo poo to beat for SID emulation

i will never afford an elektron sidstation because gently caress the euro

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Unless posted:

does a really good job on explaining the different ways of hearing sounds so you model them via envelope and LFO parameters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atvtBE6t48M

:tipshat: namaste

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
lol if u call that "og devo"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVoP-Y2Z4ZE

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bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
just wanted to say that i enjoyed this song whiole coding today

https://soundcloud.com/flosstradamus/sub-focus-tidal-wave

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