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electronic music and synths have always kind of interested me but i don't even know where to begin
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Feb 25, 2015 02:04
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writing a big rear end effortpost on synth stuff is on my to do list, maybe tonight but idk
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Feb 25, 2015 03:30
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somebody should get subtractive, somebody additive, somebody FM, umm extra credit wavetable?
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Feb 25, 2015 03:35
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my tips are as follows fm synth sounds badass if you modulate with half and quarter values add a sharply decreasing envelope of a sharper sound to your mellow sound for a plucking/attack effect if in doubt go down an octave clamp your midi into a scale if you know gently caress all about music theory triangle waves own thins almost always sound better with a doubled and detune synth tbf the tunes I make bite but I'm gonna blame that on lack of taste rather than always using those tips
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Feb 25, 2015 03:42
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dibs on subtractive
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Feb 25, 2015 03:42
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echinopsis posted:if in doubt go down text me
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Feb 25, 2015 03:52
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Jonny 290 posted:somebody should get subtractive, somebody additive, somebody FM, umm extra credit wavetable? vector, phase distortion..... i'll start romplers: they're kinda poo poo, they're kinda cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQtiA6okPMI
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Feb 25, 2015 04:01
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Clavavisage posted:vector, phase distortion..... Neat an FB-01, I have one of those. It's like a retarded module version of a DX-7
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Feb 25, 2015 09:37
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Captain Foo posted:electronic music and synths have always kind of interested me but i don't even know where to begin get korg gadget if you have an ipad garageband if you have a mac fruityloops if you have a PC watch the intro video and start the tutorials at http://www.synth.tk/ and play them back so you hear what each parameter sounds like when you get bored or distracted, open up the music you want to put on in the daw (digital audio workstation), play it, and start cutting it up into sections soon u will touch the hearts and minds of millions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CItEvQjMM7I
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Feb 25, 2015 15:13
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Unless posted:get korg gadget if you have an ipad quotin' this for thanks and also so i can find it later
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Feb 25, 2015 15:24
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you know what im not going to make a gigantic effortpost on how subtractive synthesis works, there's lots of places to find it which describe it better than i do and they use capital letters and everything cliff's notes: subtractive synthesis was the first kind of synth invented, and it's common enough that when someone talks about a 'synthesizer' it's relatively safe to assume these days that it's a subtractive synthesizer, especially if it's one made prior to 1983 or so (before the DX7 came out, which was FM and also the most popular synth ever made saleswise). subtractive synthesis is kindof like making a sculpure: you start out with a big block of harmonically-rich waveform such as a sawtooth ('buzzy,' think of a trumpet) or square ('hollow,' think of a clarinet) and run it through filters to take out the frequencies you don't want. if you really want to get into the nuts and bolts of how synths work (and you do cuz its fascinating), there's two real good series on sound on sound's website: Synth School 12 parts, no graphics so it's hard to visualize how things like filters work but the info is good Synth Secrets -- long as gently caress but comprehensive and owns, everyone getting into synthesis should read the whole drat thing, gordon reid is god neither of those are flat-out 'turn this knob to do this' tutorials but instead give you what's going on behind the scenes which is important because the knobs on a polysix do pretty much the same thing as the knobs on a minimoog, they're just labeled differently and each has a few extra bells and whistles if you want to go the book route, there's a couple good ones: Refining Sound (covers the basics of all types of synths, not just subtractive) How to Make a Noise (free book, i haven't read it but i have one or two of his others and they're legit) as far as your first steps: if you have an ipad, congratulations you own the gateway to dozens of cheap as gently caress synths. i think i would start off with caustic, which is a suite of like 15 synths and a relatively easy to use interface. Korg Gadget is great with the same idea as caustic (a bunch of little synths rather than one giant fuckoff synths) but it's like $30 or something. and Korg Polysix is probably my favorite synth of all time, the ensemble mode on it is so goddamn good if you have a mac, you have garage band, which means you can use that to play synths. i don't have time to step through how to do this right now, but a good free starter synth is TyrellN6 from u-he, one of the best synth makers in the business. i think that has most if not all of the 'common' features most subtractive synthesizers have on a pc? i don't know first hand but you need a vst host; looks like there's a free one here, then you can use the TyrellN6 synth listed above finally, if you really want to learn what all the knobs and stuff do and are willing to spend $$, Syntorial is a real good mac/pc app that gives you a step-by-step of what every knob and slider does, with shitloads of practice exercises. it's $150 which is about the going price of a typical software synth but totally worth it. if you're going to start the hardware plunge and  the gently caress out, the microbrute is nice and at $300 or so is p much the cheapest synth out there. it's goodand if you want to get into modular and eurorack poo poo then eat a bullet you bougie gently caress tyfr :tip shat:
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Feb 25, 2015 16:25
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here's the wavetable effortpost: buy a Korg 01/W and throw all your other lovely keyboards away
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Feb 25, 2015 16:38
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wave table synthesis makes me think of the ppg wave which makes me think of the ppg wave soft synth which makes me think gently caress iloks forever
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Feb 25, 2015 16:44
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does ppg stand for powerpuff girls
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Feb 25, 2015 16:47
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I don't remember so yes
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Feb 25, 2015 16:49
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Unless posted:get korg gadget if you have an ipad a lot of my (live or recorded) poo poo is made on large amplifiers w/ loopers (and trackers in addition to physical instruments), trackers in particular are because my brain is broken(only use *nix operation systems, grew up with trackers so other workflows aren't as natural). my setup is constantly in flux as i've needed to liquidate my gear time and time again. i've been meaning to catch up with this thread but i've been very sick with some bullshit since friday. that synth.tk link is cool some good info in this thread so far =) OldAlias fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Feb 25, 2015 |
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Feb 25, 2015 16:53
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daft punk railroad posted:here's the wavetable effortpost: buy a blofeld and throw all your other lovely keyboards away
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Feb 25, 2015 17:39
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i rly wish i hadn't sold mine 
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Feb 25, 2015 17:40
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Tayter Swift posted:
or just get Modular for the ipad and save yourself literally thousands of dollars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUNgCSW4WmU
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Feb 25, 2015 21:01
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if anyone wants to get into deep synth sperg territory and really start building your own synths from the math up, audulus is available on the ipad and it's pretty nice. for actual computers i'd probably still go with reaktor though. not as pretty as audulus but drat is it flexible
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Feb 25, 2015 21:03
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were there even any unix trackers i thought it was all dos until like 95
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Feb 25, 2015 23:00
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i should REALLY get into reaktor it's just sitting there
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Feb 25, 2015 23:01
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wayfinder posted:i should REALLY get into reaktor it's great to just find some tutorials and work through. you learn a lot, but i'm not sure i'm ever going to be "hmmmm i want to make such-and-such sound" and then go to reaktor for my first attempt. it's a lot of effort
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Feb 25, 2015 23:28
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same but it does have like 50 other synths already built in 
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Feb 25, 2015 23:34
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I could have saved the money I paid a friend to code a custom effect for me probably i mean it was just twenty bucks but i own reaktor already edit: on the other hand, takes time to learn that poo poo don't get me wrong i love learning but it takes time
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Feb 25, 2015 23:37
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wayfinder posted:don't get me wrong i love learning but it takes time musicasahobby.txt
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Feb 25, 2015 23:48
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we're to the point where a single person can pretty much make an album start to finish in an apartment, except for maybe vocals except that means one person needs to know how all the instruments work, effects, recording techniques, mixing poo poo like compressors and EQ, balancing, mastering etc etc etc the technology is there but the time to learn all this poo poo just isn't fun as hell to try tho
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Feb 25, 2015 23:51
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Tayter Swift posted:we're to the point where a single person can pretty much make an album start to finish in an apartment, except for maybe vocals p much how i've done all of my albums in the last 15 years. it's great because you have infinite time to tweak and polish, but it sucks because you have infinite time to tweak and polish
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Feb 25, 2015 23:58
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Tayter Swift posted:musicasahobby.txt hey now i have 1 (one) official release out on a label im technically not a hobbyist any more!!!! also i have really approximately 0 interest in recording physical instruments but the rest of this stuff is so loving fascinating
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Feb 26, 2015 00:07
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Tayter Swift posted:we're to the point where a single person can pretty much make an album start to finish in an apartment, except for maybe vocals as a result from doing it by myself only for like 10+ years, i cant work any other way now. its very rewarding to do everything yourself.
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Feb 26, 2015 00:17
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reaktor is really easy to learn. the only difficulty comes from the fact that the programming environment is absolute garbage and you'll spend most of your time doing really tedious wiring and re-wiring of modules together and double clicking on the tiny little ports to rename them and if your structure has any kind of feedback or iteration happening then lol good luck debugging that poo poo
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Feb 26, 2015 01:16
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if somehow you could peice together a synth the way you piece together visual code in ue4 i would be absolute fuckin heaven maybe someone should make that or maybe thats what reacktor is and i dont have a clue
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Feb 26, 2015 02:16
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it owuld be cool to have an app that you coudl wire everything up with pretend wires including your pc mic and speakers and headphones
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Feb 26, 2015 02:17
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wayfinder posted:hey now i have 1 (one) official release out on a label im technically not a hobbyist any more!!!! Same, I had a track signed to a record label. It sold literally one copy on Beatport. I'm a pro! and im the exact opposite, im bored of synths but give me a jazz bass and a rack of fx and i will entertain myself until end of world bobbilljim posted:it owuld be cool to have an app that you coudl wire everything up with pretend wires including your pc mic and speakers and headphones kX drivers for audiopci used to do this
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Feb 26, 2015 02:20
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make everything with 808s ONLY alternatively, making big room out of the sound of a dick hitting a toilet seat e: this came up in my recommended https://soundcloud.com/antonymo/busta-the-tank-engine bobbilljim fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Feb 26, 2015 |
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Feb 26, 2015 02:23
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echinopsis posted:if somehow you could peice together a synth the way you piece together visual code in ue4 i would be absolute fuckin heaven that's p much what reaktor and audulus are yeah
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Feb 26, 2015 02:25
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the "oh i'd love to build stuff up" thing only works if you almost obsessively go at it from a modular level and save your components in libraries for building blocks later if you try to build a good sounding synth from scratch every time you will a: get burnt out or b: end up writing "'"chiptunes"'" cause you're sick of connecting blocks and say ehh a square wave's good enough
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Feb 26, 2015 02:27
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Trig Discipline posted:or just get Modular for the ipad and save yourself literally thousands of dollars 
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Feb 26, 2015 02:47
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lol one of my friends is complaining on facebook about the new ableton that's in beta not supporting xp, vista or older mac oses because "some people" (written as if he's not talking about himself but i honestly can't tell which is more likely) might still be running that poo poo to use older programs that break on modern systems or they're just scared an os upgrade will break their delicate setup i was like "maybe if they're running an out of date os to support out of date software they won't mind keeping an out of date ableton" but he wasn't convinced
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Feb 26, 2015 02:57
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Jonny 290 posted:Same, I had a track signed to a record label. It sold literally one copy on Beatport. I'm a pro!
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Feb 26, 2015 02:58
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