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FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FrTuZxpD0k



Stream location: Hitbox.
Stream date and time: Wednesday, March 18, 5 PM PDT.
In-game date and time: 1942, February 27, 0800.
Stream content: Setting out for another patrol! What will we find?



Inspired by HerpicleOmnicron5's real-time LP of Silent Hunter 3, I decided to pick up Silent Hunter 4 and give it a go. Further inspired by said LP, I decided to give an LP of the game a go as well.

Unlike its predecessor, Silent Hunter 4 focuses on the American side of the sub war, starting the day after Pearl Harbor and continuing to the end of the war. (An expansion adds U-boats.) The theater of operation is war of the Pacific: Japan, China, Indonesia, all that fun stuff. There are several subs to choose from, but they're largely evolutionary upgrades rather than vastly different boats.

Now, I'm not going to be playing this real time. Why? One simple image.



Herp got into port from his first mission on February 16. He's taking an over a month break from the LP (though he is, apparently, streaming other stuff during the break). I don't want to do that, so between streams I'm going to be time-accelerating until something interesting happens, then saving the game to pick up at the next stream. (During a stream, though, I'll be staying real time.) My stream schedule will be irregular—my life is pretty busy—but I'll be sure to announce a stream at least 12 hours before it happens. Unlike Herp, I'm in the US, so streams will tend to happen in the 4 PM-midnight PST block.

I'm using the Real Fleet Boat and Run Silent, Run Deep mods. The former makes the game more realistic (for instance, boats don't simply have HP you have to deplete with torpedo hits) without making it as hard as Trigger Maru does. The latter greatly improves campaign generation. I'm also using these realism settings:



Once I get more comfortable with the game, I may turn off a few of the aids I've left on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoPi7SFfScw

The thread decided that, of the two fleets available to me at the start of the war, I would join Task Force 3/51/71. (I believe that actually means Task Force 3, moving to Task Force 51, then Task Force 71, later in the war.) This puts me in the worst boat in the game, an S-18 class sub:



The bright side is that we're much closer to the action than SubPac, which starts in Pearl Harbor. The down side is that... we're much closer to the action. Manila, for instance, is lost to us fairly early in the war, and we'll lose other bases along the way.



Let's hope we do at least as well as the historical S-38!

FredMSloniker fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Mar 17, 2015

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Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Take the USS Pike

How unreliable are your torpedoes going to be? Infuriatingly so?

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
USS S-37 (SS-142)

Tevery Best
Oct 11, 2013

Hewlo Furriend
Didn't the old subs actually use old, working torpedoes?

BoxOfAids
Feb 22, 2013
Woo new Silent Hunter LP!

USS Pike

Gammatron
May 19, 2009
Voting for the USS Pike.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

S-38.

Get good torpedoes.
Then lose them when you upgrade boats :D
The dud rate seems less than Historical. Or I got REALLY good angled shots in.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Gimme the S-37, then switch to the Pike if you rapidly die.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


drat it, if you'dve told me you'd have much better production values than me I would never have said "Sure, you can plug your thing in my thread." Now I look bad.

Take USS S-38 (SS-143). You need to experience the bad bote before you get a good one, just to appreciate just how much faster a good one is.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Just so you know I've got basically zero experience with Silent Hunter, so any and all info on the game people can provide for us interested newbies is welcome.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

drat it, if you'dve told me you'd have much better production values than me I would never have said "Sure, you can plug your thing in my thread." Now I look bad.

I'm much better at doing forum posts than streams. Don't be surprised if I completely flub things and show off a collection of porn that may or may not be mine at some point. :downs:

Also, I notice some people are confused about the name of the Task Force boat. Which is fair enough, since the name in the screenshot is different from the one I mentioned at the end of the post. The game selects from the names of the historical boats at that time and in that fleet. The names I mentioned are the ones of the boats I've created save files for.

chitoryu12 posted:

Just so you know I've got basically zero experience with Silent Hunter, so any and all info on the game people can provide for us interested newbies is welcome.

I admit to being something of a novice to this as well (don't ask how many times it took me to figure out how to get to the patrol zone without running out of fuel or running aground), so hopefully folks will chime in who actually know stuff!

FredMSloniker fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Feb 21, 2015

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

Night10194 posted:

How unreliable are your torpedoes going to be? Infuriatingly so?

Well, the Real Fleet Boat mod manual does make a note about the torpedoes being less reliable than stock, but it doesn't gloat about it like the Trigger Maru mod manual does, so we'll just have to cross fingers and hope for the best!

So far, the voting is 3 for a SubPac boat and 4 for a Task Force 3 boat. Still plenty of time to make your vote count!

Xenocides
Jan 14, 2008

This world looks very scary....


Hooray for sub LPs!

Take S-38. Target rich environment and working torpedoes. Who care if you are driving a sub that was brand new when the Kaiser was still a thing? The P-boats are better defensively and are a little more surviveable but faulty torpedoes mean relying on deck gun kills and Japanese ships rarely travel alone. Upgrade later to an S or T fleet boat in a few months when they start to get a grip on some of the torpedo flaws.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

Xenocides posted:

Take S-38.

And that makes it 3 for a SubPac boat and 5 for a Task Force 3 boat. I'm only posting, though, to let folks know there are about 24 hours left to vote!

Gidoran
Oct 22, 2013
Placing a vote for the S-38.

Xenocides posted:

Hooray for sub LPs!

Take S-38. Target rich environment and working torpedoes. Who care if you are driving a sub that was brand new when the Kaiser was still a thing? The P-boats are better defensively and are a little more surviveable but faulty torpedoes mean relying on deck gun kills and Japanese ships rarely travel alone. Upgrade later to an S or T fleet boat in a few months when they start to get a grip on some of the torpedo flaws.

Adding on to this, another danger with relying on deck gun kills is even if you find a Japanese ship that's alone you might very well encounter ones that are armed. Even machine gun fire can screw a submarine right up.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
It's not really LP-related, but



(4 PM - 8 PM PST)

Feel free to drop by if you're interested!


Called early on account of audience falling asleep.

FredMSloniker fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Feb 22, 2015

David Corbett
Feb 6, 2008

Courage, my friends; 'tis not too late to build a better world.

FredMSloniker posted:

It's not really LP-related, but



(4 PM - 8 PM PST)

Feel free to drop by if you're interested!

Totally planning on getting in on this later.

S-38 is my vote.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
Voting will end at 1 PM PST. Though I suspect I know what the result will be, given it's currently 3 for a SubPac boat and 7 for a Task Force 3 boat. The first stream will be Sunday, February 22, at 4 PM PST, on my Hitbox channel. We'll be leaving port, with some random musical accompaniment, as I get my sea legs (so to speak) streaming the game!

(I'm going to add a stream link and 'next session' info to the OP as well for easy access.)

FredMSloniker fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Feb 24, 2015

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?
Take the USS S-38 (SS-143).

The Casualty
Sep 29, 2006
Security Clearance: Pop Secret


Whiny baby
Fair winds and following seas, OP. I hope you go out like Grey Hunter, sinking the Yamato in 30 feet of water whilst getting shelled to death by the entire IJN.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
December 7, 1941

FROM: Commander Submarine Force, Task Force 3/51/71
Cavite Naval Base, Manila, Philippines

TO: Lieutenant Commander Fred Sloniker
Commanding Officer, USS S-38 (SS-143)

Your boat and crew have completed training and are now ready for combat operations. Review your enclosed operation order, and make your boat and crew ready for sea.




This is the between-mission menu. Various objects can be interacted with:
  • The bookshelf on the left lets you load and save games.
  • The radio tucked away on the bookshelf accesses the options menu.
  • The chalkboard next to the big map shows submarine aces. There aren't any yet, as the war's just started.
  • The big map is where we get our mission briefing.
  • The door on the right exits to the main menu.
  • The model of the sub on our desk allows us to manage sub equipment. Once we've earned renown, and once sub upgrades become available, we can spend renown to pimp our boat.
  • The photo of crewmen on the right of the desk allows us to manage sub crew. This is redundant, as this and the sub model access tabs on the same screen, and we can flip between them.
  • The telephone lets us request a transfer to another fleet and/or boat. At the moment, that's not possible. When it is, I'll ask if you want to.
  • The book on the desk is our captain's log. It'll record information about completed patrols.
  • The box on the left of the desk is where we will keep our awards, when we get them.
As a side note, my grandfather, after whom I was named, served in World War II and was a Marine for 20 years. Hopefully I won't embarrass the family name.



Operational Order
December 7, 1941

TO: Fred Sloniker, USS S-38 (SS-143)
DEPART ON: December 8, 1941

Proceed at best speed to Vigan via Lingayen Gulf and conduct combat patrol and reconnaissance. Remain on station for 12 hours in the Lingayen Gulf and within 40nm of its center point. Make daily reports as necessary to TF3

OBJECTIVE:
Recon of Lingayen Gulf


We've been given a really simple first task--the first task for SubPac boats is usually 'sail all the way from Pearl Harbor to Japan, then patrol this area for 96 hours'--but once we've finished this one, we can expect to get several followups before we return to port. Also worth noting is that the enemy is already at Manila...

:911: Stream starts 4 PM PST! Stream finished! Thanks to everyone who came.

FredMSloniker fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Feb 23, 2015

The Casualty
Sep 29, 2006
Security Clearance: Pop Secret


Whiny baby
Good luck! In real life the S-38 was an unreliable tub, and it seems somewhat miraculous that she didn't sink after surviving so many detections and mechanical failures. I'm sure you'll do just fine :D

David Corbett
Feb 6, 2008

Courage, my friends; 'tis not too late to build a better world.
There's a stream? loving A. Looking forward to this.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
Stream complete! Thanks to those who came. The next stream will probably be Tuesday sometime; I have to double-check my schedule.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

Will streams be uploaded to Youtube or something for those of us who missed out?

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

Veloxyll posted:

Will streams be uploaded to Youtube or something for those of us who missed out?

Well, I didn't anticipate anyone wanting to watch the first one, though I've found the switch to flip to save streams. But here, just for you:

Natty Ninefingers
Feb 17, 2011
Good lord. I mean, I know you did that on purpose but-drat.

While you're at it, can we have Down Periscope as a gif as well?

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

FredMSloniker posted:

Well, I didn't anticipate anyone wanting to watch the first one, though I've found the switch to flip to save streams. But here, just for you:



Thanks! Plus it never hurts to test systems etc before you need them.

BuOrd: This means you!

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

Natty Ninefingers posted:

Good lord. I mean, I know you did that on purpose but-drat.

While you're at it, can we have Down Periscope as a gif as well?
An interesting request. I'll see what I can do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eml6lxlmjY

  • 1941, December 8, 0800: USS S-38, captained by Lieutenant Commander Fred Sloniker, sets off from Cavite Naval Base, Manila, Philippines, with orders to survey Lingayen Gulf and Vigan. Boat leaves port at standard speed.

  • 0819: S-38, now clear of the docks, accelerates to flank speed. Routine exercises confirm seaworthiness.

  • 2015: S-38 enters patrol zone, 40 nm radius around Lingayen Gulf. Reduces speed to ahead standard.

  • December 9, 0017: S-38 reaches mouth of Lingayen Gulf, establishes patrol pattern across mouth. LtCdr Sloniker reports ship status and position.

    Two news messages received:

    Monday, December 8th, 1941, the United States and Great Britain declare war on Japan. President Roosevelt called December 7, quote: a date which will live in infamy.

    The casualty list after the attack on Pearl Harbor includes 2,335 servicemen and 68 civilians killed, with a further 1,178 wounded. This includes the 1,104 men aboard the battleship USS Arizona, killed after a bomb penetrated the forward magazine, causing catastrophic explosions.


  • 0658: Lingayen Gulf patrol is complete. New orders received from COMSUBPAC:

    Deploy to position 2430N 12530E by 150nm (215nm SW of Okinawa). Conduct anti-shipping operations along the Japan-Luzon Straits-Singapore shipping lanes for a period of 96hours. Make reports to higher authority as necessary.

    S-38 changes course to complete patrol of Vigan, accelerates to flank speed.

  • 0841: S-38 enters patrol zone, 40 nm radius around Vigan. Reduces speed to ahead standard and establishes patrol pattern around the city at a distance of 20 nm.

  • 1300: LtCdr Sloniker makes routine report. New orders received from COMSUBPAC:

    Deploy to position 29N 12330E by 150nm. Conduct anti-shipping operations in the East China Sea shipping lanes. Make reports to higher authority as necessary.

    S-38 continues on patrol.

  • 2149: LtCdr Sloniker makes routine report. New orders received from COMSUBPAC:

    Deploy to position 125nm NNE of Cape Engano, Luzon (2000N 12330E by 100nm) and conduct anti-shipping operations. Remain on station for 72hrs, however if IJN units are detected outside of the Patrol area, proceed at your discretion to intercept and destroy. Make reports to higher authority as necessary.

    S-38 continues on patrol.

  • 2207: Vigan patrol is complete. New orders received from COMSUBPAC:

    Proceed to Coastal town of Aparri, remain on station for 12 hours, and within 20nm of the center of the patrol area.

    As Aparri is nearest of current objectives, LtCdr Sloniker orders course set and ahead flank. Estimated time to patrol area: 12 hours, 30 minutes.

  • December 10, 0727: S-38 enters patrol zone, 20 nm around Aparri. Patrol course plotted 15 nm from the city. Speed reduced to ahead standard.

  • 1031: :siren: Large convoy spotted! :siren: Immediate dive to periscope depth ordered.


What happens next? Find out on Tuesday, February 24, at 5 PM PST!

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
Incidentally, if anyone cares, I do still have the stream-quality recording and could upload it somewhere.

BoxOfAids
Feb 22, 2013
Greetings again thread, I come bearing a few pictures from my trip to the USS Nautilus in Groton, Connecticut. It was the first nuclear sub ever made! I probably should have taken more pictures, but oh well, too late now.

http://imgur.com/a/TASO9

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

Natty Ninefingers posted:

Good lord. I mean, I know you did that on purpose but-drat.

While you're at it, can we have Down Periscope as a gif as well?

Order up!

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


Heh, you've already got your first large convoy? I recommend doing what I did, head below periscope depth and aim with hydrophones. Just fire a big ol' salvo of Uncle Sam's best in their general direction, you're bound to hit at least one, maybe two vessels.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

Bah, be brave! You've got assisted targetting on anyhow I am assuming? Fire a full salvo from periscope depth!

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


Veloxyll posted:

Bah, be brave! You've got assisted targetting on anyhow I am assuming? Fire a full salvo from periscope depth!

But not knowing whether you have a chance of hitting a drat thing is fun!

MoadDib
Apr 4, 2009

HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

But not knowing whether you have a chance of hitting a drat thing is fun!

This is a blatant lie.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


MoadDib posted:

This is a blatant lie.

My favourite moment in Silent Hunter was sitting deep underwater, saying to myself "I've not hit anything. I've wasted my torps, this was stu---" BOOM.

Dammit_Carl!
Mar 5, 2013
Nice. I've got SH4 and outside of the tutorials, have never done much more out of pure laziness on my part.

Love to see a good sub game happen!

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
As a reminder, today's stream starts at 5 PM PST. Check it out here! Stream done! Thanks for attending.

FredMSloniker fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Feb 25, 2015

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FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
I'm going to need time to review the footage, but the short version of what happened: we found a huge convoy, evaded some minesweepers, put four torpedoes into the rear of a large freighter (sadly, two were duds), and are currently hiding from retribution by subhunters. I don't know if two Mark 10s is enough to sink a freighter, but we gave it a valiant effort.

Now a poll. I anticipate it taking a while for the convoy's escorts to lose interest. Should I play off-camera and get to where something interesting is happening again before resuming stream, or should I pick up right where we left off? I'm easy either way, but I figured I should ask. You have until 1 PM, Wednesday the 25th, to make your voice heard!

Next stream date and time: Wednesday, February 25, at 5 PM PST.

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