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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > Cinema Discusso > Kingsman: The Secret Service -- A Tale of Nice Suits and Buggery
 
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Martman
Nov 20, 2006

 I thought the church scene was interestingly placed right after Eggsy failing to shoot his dog. Both are basically examples of brainwashing people into being willing to kill innocents for "the greater good", but Eggsy believes that even if it's the "good guys" in control of this then they must not really be the good guys.

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Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Catman Begins posted:

That reminds me of the scene where Harry shows Eggsy his stuffed dog and reveals the gun was filled with blanks. It's a great little switcheroo and you can tell in the delivery that Firth is loving it.
It was definitely funny, but it really bothered me. It almost makes the brainwashing tactic worse. They're not only forcing candidates to follow orders that completely violate their ethics, but also training them to expect that nothing bad will ever actually happen because they would never actually give orders that are bad. And of course, Chester King proves this false, and that we shouldn't trust the Kingsmen just based on their legacy or class or whatever.

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Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Gyges posted:

He's so easily convinced because he's an rear end in a top hat who has bought into class distinction.
Ironically, it seems like the movie is presenting the upper class as so stupid and debased that killing all of them is awesome.

Like obviously Eggsy comes up with the idea to save his own skin, but then the movie basically gives us a scene where it says "wouldn't it be awesome if we blew up all the rich people?"

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Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Gyges posted:

The movie went out of it's way to be a little obtuse on the issue, but there are clearly lots of rich people who were in the cells. The only ones walking around are those who bought into the plan. Remember there are several news reports about missing famous/rich/powerful people. Unfortunately the only one we see is the Swedish princess.
I still think that, just by making so many of the upper class people go along with the dumb plan, the message is essentially "most of the 1% are ridiculously evil and so killing them all would be super awesome."

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Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

Today's :nws: OGLAF :nws: is weirdly appropriate to the conversation about social class, especially page 2.
That's one of the weirdest excuses to draw porn I've ever seen.

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Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Pycckuu posted:

Everyone in the movie theater laughed when the lady said "i'll let you gently caress my rear end."
Yep, every single person.

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