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Admiral Joeslop posted:I've always felt that having 12 PPVs in a year (didn't they do 13 a year at some point?) is a problem. Going back and watching Attitude era stuff I see the same thing; matches from the previous PPV are repeated on the next PPV, with maybe a minor gimmick change. There's no time to properly build up a feud. With PPV being less of a money maker now, what are the odds of them cutting back? Maybe 6 big shows a year; Rumble, Wrestlemania, SummerSlam, Money in the Bank, Survivor Series and TLC or something. Give the feuds time to breath. If they absolutely insist on having 12 a year, make the other 6 minor shows like In Your House used to be. They at one point had 15 shows a year, so you would get done with one show and have a two-week build to the next.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I've always felt that having 12 PPVs in a year (didn't they do 13 a year at some point?) is a problem. Going back and watching Attitude era stuff I see the same thing; matches from the previous PPV are repeated on the next PPV, with maybe a minor gimmick change. There's no time to properly build up a feud. With PPV being less of a money maker now, what are the odds of them cutting back? Maybe 6 big shows a year; Rumble, Wrestlemania, SummerSlam, Money in the Bank, Survivor Series and TLC or something. Give the feuds time to breath. If they absolutely insist on having 12 a year, make the other 6 minor shows like In Your House used to be. This always comes up but I think there'd be plenty of time to build feuds if they weren't always completely wasting it. When they don't do a good job building up stories and making people want to see matches it really doesn't matter how much time they have to do it.
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Feb 23, 2015 21:10
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It always comes back to having a gajillion hours of content each week to fill, but they don't want to bother with using it all so you get a ton of filler. Dunn by all accounts just wants everything to be a fast food line where he gets paid for minimal work, Triple H (if that Stone Cold interview was anything to go by) wishes everything was two hours but can't change things now.
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Feb 23, 2015 21:13
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I did my usual skim through the event the lunchtime after to see how I felt about everything having slept on it, and the strongest feeling I have on Fastlane 24 hours later is "Nikki Bella did a better powerbomb than Roman Reigns and he's the one who's going to beat the guy who beat The Streak and demolished John Cena and Seth Rollins." I mean, I'm not saying Nikki should no-sell an F-5, but that WM main event sure is going to be a wet fart of a match leading into in a skid stain of a title run. triplexpac posted:The Sting build has been so weird when you really think about it. I'm also in the confused boat as far as the HHH and WCW thing goes, since HHH had absolutely nothing to do with the Invasion angle or had any impact on WCW, whereas at least Undertaker was in those matches—as lovely as that whole thing was—and can be argued to be a more contributing factor to WWE taking back WCW's ratings lead than HHH ever was at that time.
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Feb 23, 2015 21:23
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:They at one point had 15 shows a year, so you would get done with one show and have a two-week build to the next. 2006 had 16 PPV events http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WWE_pay-per-view_events#2006 To be fair though, that was when the brand split was in full swing and we had Raw, Smackdown and ECW PPVs.
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Saint Freak posted:Well that was fun. See everyone at the next pay-per-view where a bunch of 70 year olds gasp for air in the ring and maybe we see a televised death, which is about what it would take to be worse than Fastlane. 
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Feb 23, 2015 21:36
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Ah yes, noted legend Garrett Bischoff
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The Sting build sucks because Sting is old and was always kind of lovely. The only thing he's particularly good at is being mysterious and having matches with Ric Flair. Otherwise he just managed to be better than Lex Luger all of the times that WCW decided Ric Flair was too old That's a little harsh but I mean he's 55 and it's not like he was really an icon or star the way they pretend he is outside of like 6 months vs the NWO when he wasn't actually wrestling or doing anything
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pressedbunny posted:Sting himself was naming Undertaker every chance he got when he first came on board. That was the match he wanted, no doubt about it. It's the match that makes the most sense in terms of his character and his relation to WCW and WWE. It would be a dogshit match, of course, but simply writing the words 'Sting vs The Undertaker' is such a bigger deal than 'Sting vs HHH' that I don't think the quality of the match itself matters in the slightest. I figure that Undertaker didn't want that match (either because he knows it would be a bad match, or he doesn't like sting), I can't see them not doing it otherwise. I kinda hope taker chose Bray to put over. Otherwise it'd mean bray is getting built up to job again and I don't know if he can make it back to credibility after another high profile loss with no chance of getting his win back.
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Marquis de Pyro posted:The Sting build sucks because Sting is old and was always kind of lovely. No, the Sting build sucks because they've built it up horribly without a plan. You can get all sorts of lovely people over if you book effectively, just look at ECW
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Marquis de Pyro posted:The Sting build sucks because Sting is old and was always kind of lovely. The only thing he's particularly good at is being mysterious and having matches with Ric Flair. Otherwise he just managed to be better than Lex Luger all of the times that WCW decided Ric Flair was too old nah there are a lot of ways you could have made the build better and most of it has nothing to do with sting being old and lovely. covering up for old and lovely stars is wrestling booking 101
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Feb 23, 2015 21:48
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Marquis de Pyro posted:That's a little harsh but I mean he's 55 and it's not like he was really an icon or star the way they pretend he is outside of like 6 months vs the NWO when he wasn't actually wrestling or doing anything I can probably count the guys on the WWE roster fans care about more than Sting, who was last relevant about 17 years ago, on one hand. Whether that's a good thing or not is up to debate (it probably isn't). Sting was a huge deal if you were a fan getting into wrestling in 1997, which is a pretty significant portion of the audience. The person whose star is overrated in the feud isn't Sting's, it's Triple H's. He's pretty far down on the list of guys people would want to see face Sting, and about a dozen of those listings are THE GODDAMN UNDERTAKER YOU FOOLS.
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Feb 23, 2015 21:50
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i hope they have another andre battle royal and bryan gets dumped out like a sack of crap just like he did at the rumble
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Great White Hope posted:I can probably count the guys on the WWE roster fans care about more than Sting, who was last relevant about 17 years ago, on one hand. Whether that's a good thing or not is up to debate (it probably isn't). Taker will be too busy that night ending the scrub Bray once and for all taking him with him to retirement
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Feb 23, 2015 21:54
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Bray Wyatt removes his fedora and Hawaiian shirt at the same time UT does in a mirror-like showdown.
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Feb 23, 2015 21:59
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Roman reigns ; not good
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Auron posted:Roman reigns ; not good Counterpoint: looks strong?
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I mean what other man can spend so much time on his back and NOT be pinned? No one, that's who
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So, just watching Bryan/Reigns and both guys are working a really villainy style. How was this supposed to make people like Roman? He's taking shortcuts, getting the ref's help when he's in trouble, pulling evil faces...
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The one thing I don't get I'd why are people supposed to get behind a guy who gets murdered for 90 percent of the match and then gets a fluke spear. It's so weird. I've heard people say that reigns looked really good in the match but I just don't see how.
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JAssassin posted:The one thing I don't get I'd why are people supposed to get behind a guy who gets murdered for 90 percent of the match and then gets a fluke spear. It's so weird. I've heard people say that reigns looked really good in the match but I just don't see how. Bryan was just embarrassing Reigns so much with reversals and counters I thought Reigns was gonna cry Big Show tears for sympathy heat
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Feb 24, 2015 01:25
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But you see the spear>all it works out. It should be called the spear of destiny imo
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Feb 24, 2015 01:28
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I just realized I watched Fastlane last night and not Monday Night Raw.
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Cultlife posted:So, just watching Bryan/Reigns and both guys are working a really villainy style. Don't forget those really stiff and aggressive punches to Bryan on the ground, I thought for sure he was turning when I saw those
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dialhforhero posted:I just realized I watched Fastlane last night and not Monday Night Raw. I know, I am excited too.
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JAssassin posted:The one thing I don't get I'd why are people supposed to get behind a guy who gets murdered for 90 percent of the match and then gets a fluke spear. It's so weird. I've heard people say that reigns looked really good in the match but I just don't see how. It was his best singles match I've ever seen. But that's not really saying much
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I was listening to one of the MLW episodes and one of the guys, I think MSL, said that vince told hall/nash "I rather have half an arena full cheering my guy than a full house cheering the wrong guy", this was in reference to seeing people leave during the Mania 12 main. How this company continues to live is a god drat mystery.
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